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Why does the younger generation hate Madonna?

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They don't, they just haven't heard of her.
It's sexism if anything more than her age.
American Life was The Chance for large portions of the US 'media' to do the worst thing, since they thought her un-American etc, and ignore her.
That's why her next record was stuck to the dance-floor.
Hung Up works without the ABBA sample but she knew the tizzy bored features writers would be in ?
 

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They don't, she just hasn't put out any songs that connected to casual-listener teenagers since 4 Minutes.

That coupled with ageism and that dumb feud with Stephanie, plus the fact American radio stations basically boycotted her after American Life and that Interscope does not care about promoting her new records anyway making it basically impossible for her new work to get mainstream/general public attention, and, well... I doubt she'll be able to connect with the ~YOUTHS~ unless she's featured in a huge hit-single by someone like Ariana Grande or Cardi B (featured, not the main artist featuring them).

I mean, even Britney Spears and P!nk appear to be fading a little in charts, for lots of different reasons, sure, except maybe ageism is starting to play there + not connecting to the younglins anymore.

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I’m glad to see your thoughtful post payne, what’s funny is I lived through your situation 18 years ago as a 15 yo in middle school when music came out and no one liked Madonna at my school either. I’m sure there are many here who have been through the same situation - the ghosts of Christmas past lol

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Well, i'm wondering how most of you know that your school didn't like Madonna, lol did you asked each one of them? :Madonna038:

Btw I remember catching one of my friends bopping to GMAYL at school one day in 2012, he was using earphones but I heard it as a proud stan I am. Later I asked him what he was listening and he said it was from the radio. But I can confirm it that wasn't the radio.

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5 hours ago, vncsmoraes said:

They don't, she just hasn't put out any songs that connected to casual-listener teenagers since 4 Minutes.

That coupled with ageism and that dumb feud with Stephanie, plus the fact American radio stations basically boycotted her after American Life and that Interscope does not care about promoting her new records anyway making it basically impossible for her new work to get mainstream/general public attention, and, well... I doubt she'll be able to connect with the ~YOUTHS~ unless she's featured in a huge hit-single by someone like Ariana Grande or Cardi B (featured, not the main artist featuring them).

I mean, even Britney Spears and P!nk appear to be fading a little in charts, for lots of different reasons, sure, except maybe ageism is starting to play there + not connecting to the younglins anymore.

That is quite true, but the thing is the younger generation these days prefer more experimental works that have meaning and are relatable. Which is why when I had my friends listen to her albums there absolute favourite was American life. The album feels extremely futuristic with its outspoken lyrics about corruption, discrimination, injustice and consumerism, on-top of Madonna getting very personal on the album. The younger generation would absolutely love it and go crazy over it if they actually gave it a listen. Like my friends did. Her older works and newer ones actually do connect with the youth. As it connected with me and my friends. They just need to give her a chance but they don't.

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It's mostly the media brainwashing and I've personally never met a 15 year old who "didn't know who she was" or he even liked her, they all know if her she's just a different generation, which is understandable

 

And yes she peaked in 1990 but MJ peaked in 1983 and is more revered by the younger generation, and Mariah and Celine sold more than Madonna in the 90s but Madonna still sold more than Whitney in the 90s and Madonna has been consistently selling all three globally since 1998, so that really made no sense

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Expecting a 50/60 years old woman to be popular amongst the teen market is unrealistic though.

 And lets not forget how Madonna easily slid into legendery territory without needing an actual come back. She was huge in the 80’s and she had many huge moments throughout the 90’s. Her popularity started to brittle after Music. American Life was shunned in the US and Confessions was way too dancey for the American audience but 4 Minutes was actually quite popular and she even had a stadium tour in the US promoting Hard Candy. All of that was when she was being indicted into the Rock And Roll Hall of Fame. To be still relevant and have radio/ charts hits and get that sort of accomplishment is unheard of. We are talking about a legendary, ever over-exposing career which went on and on despite the “Madonnas over” or “Madonnas irrelevant” mantra. 

Kids know who Madonna is. Very likely they know some of her classics and even dig them. If theyre fans of any of the new wannabes like Ariana Grande or Cardi B they certainly know how inspiring Madonna is. Even fans of Migos and Drake know Madonna is one of the biggest icons ever. Drake did a tune dedicated to her for crying out loud. Of course shes not popular amongst teens and would be silly to expect so. But that doesnt mean shes not known or liked and certainly doesnt mean shes hated. 

                                  WARNING! Politics talk:

i also find that especially in the US Madonnas become more of a political figure rather than a musician so growing up in a republican/Trumpist family Madonna will always be associated with negativity, redicule and insults whereas a Democratic family would have a more favorable  opinion of her. That kind of things get passed on to children so in a rural US area Madonna doesnt get love or praise. Instead shes very likey rediculed and shunned the same way someone like Hillary Clinton is. 

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32 minutes ago, Mp1992 said:

Madonna was HUGE throughout the 90s as well, EVERY album she released went multi platinum, she had two huge and influential tours, she had nearly as many top 10 hits in the US in the 90s as she did in the 80s and MORE top 40 hits in the 90s and more Billboard Hot 100 songs charted than any other artist of any genre in the 90s

 

She was also the 4th biggest selling artist worldwide of the 90s decade and 6th biggest selling in the US

 

She also had her biggest film successes in the 90s (DT, ALOTO, TD, EVITA) and appeared on more magazine covers than any other celebrity in the 90s

 

The history rewrite of Madonna in the 90s is starting to bug me

 

 

 

I didnt say she wasnt huge in the 90’s but i said she had huge moments because in the 90’s she did have tough competition from other popular female artists. Mariah Carey, Janet Jackson, Celine Dion, Whitney Houston, the Spice Girls even singers like Sheryl Crow were selling for millions. All im saying is in the 80’s no female artist could come to her level and she had the 80s all to herself but in the 90’s she had to share a piece of the pie.. that doesnt mean she wasn’t popular or not selling. She simply had to share some limelight with other female artists. 

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11 hours ago, Mp1992 said:

And yes she peaked in 1990 but MJ peaked in 1983 and is more revered by the younger generation

I believe last time Michael Jackson was evidently successful and well respected across the globe was during the Dangerous era which kind of ended with the child abuse accusations. It's funny that today MJ the artist is way more revered than Madonna by the general audience despite all the shit he had to go through in his later years. Let's not forget he was an artist that kept on repeating the same formula with regard to his performances and that maybe perpetuated the respect towards his early work. He also has multiple compilations that were released to remind the public of his hits, something Madonna's catalogue has been treated differently. 

Had she continued with Warner, her discography might have been handled with more care.

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