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  1. So Madonna has a phd in medicine now does she ? Christ is she drunk on rose when she hits submit on Instagram ?
    15 points
  2. Since when do we cancel careers or releases because of someone’s views? People arent perfect. People make mistakes. Big deal. Is no one allowed to fuck up anymore? Maybe She knows things we dont. I dont know...just sayin’.
    14 points
  3. The media doesn't control scientific consensus. If she didn't have any doubts about the information, why did she delete it? If she was sure about it she would not let a social media "cancellation" stop her from saving lives. Honestly I would not go to someone that thinks illness comes from fucking demos for brain surgery. It doesn't give me confidence in their knowledge of medicine if they believe that. No, it should not come from personal opinion, it should come from expert consensus. I believe reality is a consensus of people with common sense. Outlandish claims without proof are conspiracy theories until proven otherwise. We are arguing literal insanity here.
    13 points
  4. One of the big problems with Madonna and always had been it's that she is out of touch with her privilege. She is tone deaf when it comes to realised how so many things are at her advantage and how money makes such a difference to the reality you live in. She wants to be supportive of causes, give voices to communities, fair enough but the more money she has and furthest she is on that tower of security the more distant she is of actual facts and reality. Also she find herself in a white saviour conflict that she does'nt want to admit. Tom Hanks was really honest talking about his experience with Covid19 and how he was scared but he was confident he would be safe because of his wealth and access to the right people. And this is an issue worldwide with this pandemic, the ones that can afford to call it a fraud or don't take it seriously are those that, subconsciously know that it won't affect them big deal. Of if it does they have a big chance to get better. Then are those that have no access to health, have families, have no room to isolate or able to pay rents or have the kids at home. There are homeless, there are people with weak health that coul'dnt survive a light fever. When you live in that privilege and you don't use towards those that need help but to justify more of your selfish opinions, you are part of the problem.
    13 points
  5. No one is calling pharmaceutical lobbies a conspiracy theory. But the claim that the scientists and medical professionals of the world are hiding a cure for profit is a conspiracy and there needs to be solid proof to justify making it. This is why the alt-right is so successful, a and b are true, therefore z must be as well. No questions asked.
    13 points
  6. Ah yes, these freaking millennials and their evidence-based fact-checking, where will it end?
    12 points
  7. Post evidence then. We won't be having a thread full of misinformation.
    11 points
  8. 1: Yes, people have their right to express their views and beliefs, but they need to see if what they believe have fundament and it is based on facts at all. Madonna is a public and very influential person, with 15.5 million followers on instagram, so what she says, wrong or right, always make the front page of social media and the worldwide news. This kind of influence needs precaution, especially when you spread disinformation about a disease that is making the whole world stop. Can't you see, now, what the problem is? 2: Stop with this nonsense. You can't make assumptions on health issues spreading "theories". It's well known documented why it's so hard to find a cure for AIDS/HIV and Cancer, but it's well known documented too the incredible advancements on these subjects. 3: Is it right, right now, spreading misinformation about a deadly disease? Trump was doing it not long ago and she was furious spamming all of our timelines on instagram. So just stop.
    10 points
  9. Ok I have to admit I am really ashamed she did this, really. I can't believe how much she is getting unrecognizable. The problem is that if she shows such a complete lack of awareness in a basic as important matter like this one, also her commitment in good causes ends up being less and less relevant, it's her own voice to be discredited. I was so proud when last month I saw her in the streets of London walking with her crutches for the Black lives matter cause, and yet if she's not able to share the relevance of such essential informations and sources, well ... we do have a prob guys. I'm so disappointed by this
    10 points
  10. Maybe the eye patch was a prediction of the covid mask!
    10 points
  11. I love Annie Lennox answer. Madonna is totally lost these days...
    9 points
  12. I'm loving the theories saying Elton John hacked her haha
    9 points
  13. It is terrible that we give social media such power.it is NOT the real world. We live in a time where people really need something to believe in. Unfortunately, theyll believe anything. No questions asked. No critical thinking. They believe what they see and eat it up. Dangerous times indeed. And Social media doesnt cancel careers: people do. Based on misinformation posted on social media. I unplugged from that shit years ago. Trust me, it was like coming out of the Matrix.
    9 points
  14. Maybe she was having another fuzzy dream and she didn’t mean to post it
    9 points
  15. hydroxychloroquine has been proven to be more dangerous than helpful. And Doctor Raoult has been proven to put people lives in danger and create a series of incunclusive studies that benefits him. The Conspiracy Circus took this on board like some part of secret plan by the "Rulers of the world" https://forbetterscience.com/2020/04/22/chloroquine-witchdoctor-didier-raoult-barking-mad-and-dangerous/
    9 points
  16. Correct me if I'm wrong but the results of his (Raoult) trials show the same death rate as everywhere else. Most patients got cured but that is expected without the use of the drug as the virus has a low mortality rate to begin with. I wonder if she took down the post, or it was Instagram. If it was her and she's "brave" and informed enough to post it, she should be "brave" enough to leave it up and knowledgeable enough to justify it. The woman in the video is a religious minister, and doctor, who claims disease is caused by having sex with demons, that scientists use alien DNA for vaccines, and that people in power are New World Order reptilians. She is also anti LGBT. Does this person seem reliable? This is the person Donald Trump and our very own stable genius is championing.
    9 points
  17. For someone that put herself as a voice against unjustice. A fighter for women rights. Someone who has been always vocal and political. Sexuality, health, war... Someone that has created a path for people to admire and follow, someone that's an example for many. Someone who knows she has a huge platform that creates impact in so many people wordlwide, I do care. And I hope she cares. Because there's a certain responsability she put herself in and she cant choose to shake it off when it does'nt work for her. In this case that does'nt even apply. She jump to share misinformation without checking it. It would be as easy as making a social post/estatement apologising. But we are talking of the unapologgetic bitch here.
    8 points
  18. I just want to say not all french people believe in that shit As for Madonna, she needs to surround herself with adults that are more clever than she is to learn from them. For a few years now she's surrounded herself with tools who are in awe of her and she lectures them like she's god. She needs someone to tell her off. Like real friends do because people on your payroll don't.
    8 points
  19. Treatment is not a vaccine. And COVID is horrible. It causes long-term lung damage, heart problems, blood clotting issues, chronic illness and organ damage that go far beyond just respiratory issues. Is behaving recklessly, not wearing masks, and telling people things will be fine because there's a treatment, a responsible take? She's 100% out of touch with reality.
    8 points
  20. Absolutely, the ignorance is huge... Do not take Madonna for an insane old woman, she's actually one of the most intelligent famous female of this world. The hydroxichloroquine is not one of those "crazy theories from the web", come on, a lot of renowned scientist of the world have spoken about it and are furious they are not talen seriously. We are not talking about crazy geek teens behind their computers in their bedrooms, we are talking about famous and renowned scientists and doctors, some of them, like Didier Raoult had tons of high medecine prices all over the world.
    8 points
  21. There is no conspiracy. Hydroxychloroquine has been shown to cause terrible side effects and not be that effective. That doesn't mean it's use shouldn't be explored (and it is being explored, carefully). But again, there is no massive conspiracy among the doctors and disease experts of the world. It's been made a political issue by Trump, who has a financial stake in hydroxychloroquine, and is desperate to do anything to detract from his absolute failure to effectively lead during the crisis. He lies at every turn and blames everyone else and this is just another example. The video by the "doctors" was a massively misleading bit of propaganda produced by far right wing media manipulators. The fact that Madonna was sucked in is disturbing, but at least she has since deleted the video. There is no miracle "cure" for COVID-19, just like there is no cure for the flu. There are just treatments. This won't get better until a vaccine has been widely distributed. Listen to science, not quackery or political propaganda. https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-cautions-against-use-hydroxychloroquine-or-chloroquine-covid-19-outside-hospital-setting-or
    7 points
  22. One of the biggest tools of fascism is the spread of misinformation. So I don't think we should be talking about cancel culture for people being justifiably upset when this virus has affected everyone's life. Even if I don't agree with extremist reactions it's totally understandable. I also don't think anyone is really trying to cancel her. Most reactions on stan twitter are disbelief or sadness with the occasional meme thrown in. In other places you can tell that the people who are angry would never have supported her career in the first place. Lots of "always thought she sucked" type of stuff. With Madonna either people don't care enough to cancel her or care too much to drop her over a mistake.
    7 points
  23. Honestly as bad as this was, we have to consider that this has been a rough year for everyone, and she was already not doing well before the pandemic. I just hope she'll take a break from social media, the world is not going to stop falling apart just because she's posting every day. Her IG comments are also HORRIBLE and full of pizza gate comments. I really hope she takes care of herself.
    7 points
  24. Disseminating false information that puts people's health at risk should not be tolerated and accepted as freedom of expression. People who support the use of this medicine are petty and irresponsible, cannot cope with the new reality of the world and want a quick cure, even if other people's lives are put at risk.
    7 points
  25. God, the ignorance. We deserve what is happening in the world.
    7 points
  26. There are a couple of points I'd like to reiterate. Firstly, I was shocked that Madonna posted this, but later realized my shock was formed by my submission to the propagandist news feed that corporate media overlords have been feeding the masses. Who is right, and who is wrong are questions that none of us can answer at present. It is the massive danger of this time. Misinformation has been coming from everywhere, and the media is absolutely toxic. Anyone who feels that outlets from Fox to CNN and the NY Times are not seriously compromised by corporate lobbyists and special interest groups needs their head checked. Something to consider before claiming that Madonna is a lunatic. Secondly, I'd like to point out that Madonna has actually had covid-19, and she is a powerful and wealthy person who has access to the type of privileged treatment and information that only the elites are able to access. I've looked up to her for thirty-something years, and I find it hard to believe that she would choose to disseminate information that she had any doubt about. Thirdly, the doctor who gave this impassioned plea is not a quack. She is a practicing medical professional at a respectable institution. What her culture has taught her regarding sexuality is not a reflection of her ability to practice medicine. Do you know what your doctors and nurses believe about everything in life? If they had a fundamental difference of opinion about something, or perhaps a belief in a different God, but they were the top brain surgeon and the only one who could operate on your life-threatening tumor, would you refuse their services? The fundamental problem with this situation is that people have come to expect simple, digestible answers to everything in order to make room for convenience. "Shut up Madonna because this might hinder your chances of getting a single you are featured on to the mainstream in order for me to feel like my devotion to you is validated" is more offensive and stupid in my opinion than someone believing in demon sperm or that homosexuality is wrong in their personal belief system. You know why? Because this doctor stood passionately imploring the information to be scrutinized, putting her livelihood and life on the line, and doing so in order to save American lives. Whether or not you think the information is true or false should come from a place of broadly informed personal investigative work, and not based on Donald Trump's endorsement of the treatment, the doctor's personal belief system, or Madonna's choice to go public with her own personal views. IF...and I'll capitalize that twice...IF it is indeed true that big pharma and corporate greed lobbyists in government have been circumventing the obvious inexpensive treatment of this illness for the sake of pushing a giant money grab of opportunities to exploit unnecessary vaccination policies that allow a technocratic agenda to further take hold of the reigns of global power, we should be thankful that anyone is willing to speak up. There is a great danger to dismissing anything due to coexisting conflicts of belief that override the commonalities. I hope this helps to drive that point home for those of you who can think no further than getting a pop confection to add to your collection. P.S. From everything I have read, Madonna did not erase the post. Instagram first flagged it with the fact-checking procedure (a form of censorship that is becoming uncomfortably normalized without a doubt), and then hours later they deleted it.
    6 points
  27. She has built her entire persona on enlightenment and philanthropy, so she does expect people to CARE about what she thinks/believe. We love her but she’s not getting a free pass for posting unverified, negligent stuff, specially not in these life/death circumstances we’re living.
    6 points
  28. I didn't see anyone trying to cancel Madonna on this forum, people are just pointing out her mistake. I think that if this fake news had been published by Gaga, Britney, Janet, Mariah or any other pop star, many of you who are defending Madonna would be pointing out their mistake.
    6 points
  29. What she did was wrong. And by deleting it, isn’t a form of an apology!
    6 points
  30. "Cancel culture is a problem"- says the same people that boycot Nike because of their support of Colin Kaepernick.
    6 points
  31. OMG who cares what she posted or what she "believes"!! I dont understand why people have to freak out over it or attack her.....People have every right to express their views or opinions about things. God, I am so sick of judgmental people! Nobody is perfect!! Nobody is better than she is!! I do not agree with what she said but it doesn't matter to me because she is a human being like all of us. We all have crazy beliefs and views on things in this world. Those that are judging her and criticizing her for what she said, you are no better either. You are expressing your views and beliefs by saying you do not agree with her and calling her crazy and mental when she would turn around and probably say the same thing about you!! It is the same theory about cancer, AIDS, etc,,,,that has been out there since day one,,,,"there is a cure but being held for financial gain or control" (whether or not I believe that, remains unsaid) She is just speaking her mind and what she believes (if this is truly what she believes)! At least let the woman respond first before everyone wants to go off the deep end on her!! Geezus!!!!!
    6 points
  32. Shall we also disregard that people with Lupus who actually need this drug now are finding it hard to get because of everyday people buying it as a “miraculous” cure for COVID19. Madonna jumped into praising dr Immanuel without verifying her history of conspiracy nonsense. #DemonSeed and #AlienDNA are trending so go figure.
    6 points
  33. People, please stop with the 'we don't know much about COVID' stuff. It's true, we don't, but it's also true that woman is insane (she is speaking about people contracting diseases by having sex with spirits and lots of Anti-LGBT' stuff). There are also tons of articles explaining how that particular medication is not good or useful at all. It's scientific evidence. Madonna is not a doctor and of all people she should know better. She is literally siding with someone who is also endorsed by Trump. That is already problematic in itself. She is wrong.
    6 points
  34. The least she could do now is to make a statement saying how she was misinformed, but she won't because she's probably furious and thinking that "I wAs CEnSOreD!!!111" Love the woman, but it's getting harder and harder not to get really turn off by this social media antics.
    6 points
  35. Well i don't know what that Stella Emmanuelli has said on her other videos or on instagram but i have that very precise video M has reposted and i totally agree with her. Hydroxichloroquine is indeed the cure for Covid and most of countries don't wanna admit it (spreading false side effects) because it's really cheap and it doesn't bring a lot of money to the pharmaceutical lobby. I applause Madonna for posting this !
    6 points
  36. Now would be the time to leave those edibles aside for a bit
    6 points
  37. For goodness sake, can't you lot live your lives off social media! All I see are ridiculous quotes saying Madonna says this and that. Be glad Madonna is finally releasing something that might actually give her a hit. Madonna fans really are the worst.
    6 points
  38. Girl, that's where the hypocrites stay silent. Had it been anyone else they would be out with their pitchforks calling for cancellations but because it hits close to home, we should brush it aside, move on, people are overreacting, she's done worse "like okay?" We're not asking for cancellations or anything but you would think someone as integral and with such an influence like her would fact check and see where her stuff comes from rather than just uploading videos that could be false propaganda etc. I thought she was always looking into things and a stickler for details but she seemed to miss a very big one and then reposted it.
    5 points
  39. Many sad people in this thread. God forbid a billionaire celebrity be held accountable for their shitty actions.
    5 points
  40. OP said nothing like that, they said nothing of the sort.
    5 points
  41. She's human. She made a mistake. She deleted the video.
    5 points
  42. she seems so lost.... I feel like she's doing everything she can to destroy her legacy. It's painful to watch!
    5 points
  43. Without a doubt. She's just lost something wonderful. From the late 90s up until the latest 00s, she had this amazing warmth and humility about her, but I just feel like the divorce ruined her mindset and her supposed intelligence just seems wasted now. intelligent, warm, caring Madonna seems a distant memory.
    5 points
  44. Shall we disregard the fact that it has influenced millions of people to use a drug that does NOT work and consequently contract covid19 for lack of care? Shall we also disregard that many of her fans are no longer young and are part of the risk group?
    5 points
  45. Hopefully is not a Zoom video between Dua, Madonna, Missy, Blessed Madonna and Gal Gadot
    5 points
  46. People need to stop living their lives online. Information is twisted, edited, and therefore, makes room for assumptions and bad decisions.
    5 points
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