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  1. I love this thread and post! I adore Madonna, primarily and mainly because of her VOCALS and VOCAL EVOLUTION. It still mystifies me how she can go/she went from those raw seemingly-high-pitched vocals from 1981-1983 ("Everybody" and "Borderline" and most of The First Album vocals are definitely not altered!), to the questionably altered pitched-up high pitch vocals on "Material Girl" and "Like A Virgin" to the crisp, crystal Karen Carpenter-like vocals on "Crazy For You"... ...then would suddenly have that deeper, much more mature head to chest voice on the True Blue album! I would go on and on about how for even each song in each album has a different vocal style than other songs on that same album. It's like WOW! 20 years of being a megafan and what I just described still is a beautiful mystery to me but it's just as fascinating. MADONNA has a God-given unique voice: raw and guttural, emotion-filled and operatic too! She has so much range, quality, and timbre... It's just a lot to talk about when it comes to her vocals and vocal evolution. But one thing is true: Madonna is indeed a Vocalist, and a very fine one because she uses her emotions and doesn't try to be technically perfect! Madonna is about quality, persistence, and versatility... and this is why she is a true gem in music history!
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  2. Ekans

    Madame X Tour DVD

    I'll just wait for the torrent.
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  3. Adriabs

    Madame X Tour DVD

    This looks very cinematic but not overedited, which is the perfect balance. My thirst is reaching a new peak at this point.
    4 points
  4. Following Mariah Carey's remarks (that are not, IMO, a shade but just some technical information) and listening to some of Madonna's song, this thread came to mind. Let's keep in mind that there was usually no digital pitch correction at the time. Some manners of pitch correction were possible (for instance, by selecting a portion of a song, and then playing the tape slower or faster, or by using specialized and sometimes expensive digital effects units or digital samplers), but not all studios were equipped for that. More details: A Brief History of Pitch Correction in Music. Yes, digital pitch correction was sometimes performed, but not all studios were equipped w/ all of that. Singers really had to be able to sing on key. Here's an explanation by Debbie Gibson: Are you similarly critical when you listen back to some of your earliest hits, like "Only in My Dreams"? It's like ... I remember who that person was then, so I understand where I was at, but I would never [sing] it that way again. What I hear when I listen to "Only in My Dreams" is I was so concerned with being pitch perfect – we didn't have Auto-Tune – that I can hear myself "placing" the notes a little bit, instead of letting things "roll" a little more. Back then, I would go for the note a little more than the emotional impact. Now, it's completely different. https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/news/debbie-gibson-talks-music-healthy-living-secret-taylor-040000760.html And yes, there were different techniques such as reverb, delay, echo, tremolo, multi-tracking, etc., but most of the credit goes to the vocalists who provided the vocals, performed the songs. No effects or filters could have made Madonna sound so great, so good, so amazing, so real on her records without her raw talent and true performance. Did she suck so much, no engineer would have made her sound so brilliant and clear. Madonna started to sing professionally in 1979 (she had lessons in Paris). Two years later: Later on: The vocal quality of all those records is on par with all those other records by other acts. Madonna's a real vocalist, above average, and that's G*D spoken truth. Note: Digital pitch correction is totally fine. If the vocal performance/technique is truly bad, it's always going to sound so. Most recording artists nowadays use some manners of pitch correction, and that's totally fine. If the artist sounds good, it means they have some talent at least. My point is, Madonna could sound so good & pro on her records without it, which shows great singing talent.
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  5. So true. And just think of how many artists have signature voices. One signature voice.... and that's an achievement. Now think of how many distinct Madonna voices we have. (Some are not distinct and could potentially be anyone) EVEN SPEAKING VOICES! Think of her Blond Ambition hoarse voice. But she also literally could have been 40 different singers throughout her career and no one could have known it was the same person unless someone pointed it out. and just now thinking about it... Think about Erotica... The first four songs have ALL different voices. I think something that sets her apart is she becomes the character singing the song and the voice changes with it. Sorry to bring this person in... and no shade... but for instance Mariah... mostly sounds the same and its always Mariah singing a song. Now Mariah sings this song. and now that one. Madonna becomes something other than herself and emotes, and brings the song to life. Not just a voice recital of technicality. AGAIN! No shade.
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  6. Fans : do not buy this! her lazy, uncreative team needs to know that we dont like it! If they want our money, they have to make products that are up to standards! Its 2020, packaging and creative artwork is everything.
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  7. o_g_c_x

    Madame X Tour DVD

    I cant wait!!!! I loved this tour, very emotional. Hope there is a decent physical release!
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  8. Her voice is magic. I was so surprised to hear Vogue raw vocals, she sounded amazing, so much power and gut... Also, on Deepak Chopras Rumi Poems album, Madonna's Bittersweet is really by far the best reading of all the bunch...it gives me goosebumps each time. I think that the reason for all of this is that she never got to be a 'singer' in its true sense...I see her as a modern kind of a philosopher/artist/healer/guru who uses music and her voice as tools to explore all aspects of existance...its like...she writes about sex, or love, or pain, or fun...and then uses her voice to paint the full picture, which is a much deeper process than just a singer singing a song...
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  9. M is a wonderful session singer. Listen to the first album acapellas (hardly no tweaking), listen to I'm Breathless, listen to the Blond Ambition tour and The Girlie Show. And listen to the Mirwais demos from the American Life era (I'm in Love with Love, one of her rare rock songs, proves she can deliver very strong and straight vocals, without effort and effects). It's probably when her vocals were the best, solid yet relaxed, and it's funny given how they ended altered, chopped and screwed on the album! Don't take me wrong,, it's one of my favourites and I absolutely love Nobody Knows Me as much as X-Static Process. The sound recording and engineering on AL are really top quality. As a major pop star, she has worked with A-list studio people and she's made the best of it. Remember the Like A Prayer version we hear is the first take. Obviously they had rehearsed it a couple of times, hopefully we'll hear the demo recordings someday. M is also one the first major stars to have used digital studios and processing. She isn't a recording console nerd but many of her producers were and she sounded better than her competitors for a long time with the successful combination of technical innovation and skilled collaborators. Her spoken vocals on Justify My Love and Rescue Me were unparalleled for a long time. Even George Michael sounded like a health insurance advertisement in comparison. In the 80s, when she became big, there was though something frustrating about her regarding Michael and then Janet Jackson, GM, Whitney Houston, Prince: their studio vocals were much "in your face". She never got the chance to be considered as the singer she is: like David Bowie, she is more a plastic vocalist, who can blend into whatever musical genre she is into at the time and still make the whiteness in her voice interesting. Kylie Minogue has that quality too, with a narrower, maybe less bold, register. I love the husky and raucous M, I love the sad and the emotional, I love the cheeky and the bouncy, I love her lower voice, I love her whispering and humming. I love the powerful, raw vocals on Ray of Light. I love her harmonies, that's something she paid an unnoticed attention to for a long time and it came back on Madame X. I love her early high-pitched choruses. Not the latest ones, like Medellin or Living For Love, an example of the things she can't sing anymore (not judging, the voice is a muscle that evolves throughout a career, she and DIplo should have come up with something else than Up Up Up, yuck). In the end, what I like the most are her funky / rnb-ish vocals. This song has been a staple for a long time:
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  10. I prefer Tokyo but yes, I prefer this to anything on BAT or GS!
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  11. I always thought that people's reactions towards this book reveal more about themselves than Madonna.
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  12. Also the relationship with this book is gonna be based in your own personal experience. For me when it came out and I was a queer teen in some small town. My sexual preferences were a big element of how I feel about the world and my struggles to see how and where I fit. Society imposed you to question and made it an important side of your life and everything you do. That one of your references and inspirations, come out with a book where sexuality is shown as something else, natural, personal, open. Was such an empowerment and relief for me. And I know lots of queer kids at the time that felt that way too. It was'nt about being into sex, but into don't making sexuality a tag to describe you. it was'nt sinful or unnatural.
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  13. She doesn't need any men to be respected or praised or whatever. She made everything or her own. People need to let her grow old as she wants and stop trying to tell her how to act. She's just being herself, as usual.
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  14. Voguerista

    Madame X Tour DVD

    Maybe the Madonna standby should play her in the movie?
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  15. Only if you're in a crisis sweetie.
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  16. So are we going to ignore the fact that she's wearing the wig in some shots and her natural hair in others? As a certified gay i will not tolerate her hair changing color every 2 seconds. Other than that i love the footage, the close up shots and editing looks really good.
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  17. I'm sure there are so many who are lost sometimes when we see one or another Madonna performance on tv... I'm one of them and I always think about that I would like to know what are the performances on tv or that has been broadcasted with professional shoot. So... why don't we do a comprehensive list? We all could write the performances and I will updating this entry. 1982-??-?? - ------------- (Club New York) 1982-12-16 - Everybody (Haoui Montaug's "No Entiendes Party" - Danceteria) NY 1983-??-?? - Burning Up + Everybody + Holiday (Candem Palace) London 1983-??-?? - Holiday (Studio 54) NY 1983-??-?? - Holiday (Music Machine) London 1983-??-?? - Burning Up + Holiday + Lucky Star + Physical Attraction (The Metro) Boston 1983-01-?? - Everybody (Dancin' on Air) WPHL-TV - USA 1983-02-25 - Holiday (Solid Gold) [Re-Broadcast] 1983-07-?? - Everybody (Roxy Nightclub) NY 1983-09-24 - Physical Attraction + Everybody + Holiday + Burning Up (Uncle Sam's Club) NY 1983-10-23 - Everybody (re-broadcast) + Holiday (Di-Gei Caligari) Rai Uno - Italy 1983-10-25 - Holiday (Discoring) Rai Uno - Italy 1984-01-03 - Holiday (Klons Eurotops) Dars Erste - Germany 1984-01-14 - Holiday (American Bandstand) ABC - USA 1984-01-26 - Holiday (Top Of The Pops) BBC One - UK 1984-01-27 - Holiday + Burning Up (The Tube) Channel 4 - UK 1984-02-13 - Holiday + Borderline + Interview (The Dance Show) 1984-02-19 - Holiday (H.I.P. H.O.P.) TF1 - France 1984-02-25 - Holiday (Solid Gold) Paramount TV - USA 1984-03-01 - Holiday (Formel Eins) ARD - Germany 1984-05-16 - Dress You Up (The Paradise Garage) NY 1984-06-14 - Holiday (Passeport pour le forme) TF1 - France 1984-06-?? - Holiday (Super Platine) Antenne 2 - France 1984-06-23 - Holiday (Les Enfants Du Rock) Antenne 2 - France 1984-09-04 - Like A Virgin (MTV VMAs) MTV - USA 1984-12-13 - Like A Virgin (Top of The Pops) BBC One - UK 1985-02-?? - Like A Virgin (All Night Fuji) Fuji TV - Japan 1985-02-?? - Like A Virgin + Interview (Rock TV) TV4 - Japan 1985-02-?? - Like A Virgin (#1) (Healthy t-shirt)[/font] 1985-02-?? - Like A Virgin (Yoru - No Hit Studio) Fuji TV - Japan 1985-02-02 - Like A Virgin (Solid Gold) Paramount TV - USA 1985-02-17 - Like A Virgin (Music Fair Show) Fuji TV - Japan 1985-07-13 - Holiday + Into the Groove + Love Makes the World Go Round (Live Aid) Madonna also sang back up during theThompson Twins set on the Beatles cover of "Revolution" - Philadephia 1985-11-09 - Saturday Night Live (Hosting) NBC USA 1987-06-27 - Some songs from Who's That Girl Tour from Miami - MTV - USA 1987-09-11 - Causing A Commotion (MTV VMAs - recorded earlier 1987-09-04) MTV - USA 1989-05-24 - I Got You Babe feat. Sandra Bernhard (Don't Bungle The Jungle - Rainforest Benefit Concert) NY 1989-09-06 - Express Yourself (MTV VMAs) - MTV - USA 1990-03-?? - Express Yourself (rehearsal from Disney Studios) (Japan Grand Prix Awards) Japan 1990-03-28 - Vogue (rehearsal from Disney Studios) (MTV Blond Date) MTV USA 1990-09-06 - Vogue (MTV VMAs) MTV - USA 1990-09-07 - Vogue (Commitment to Life IV Benefit for AIDS Project) Wiltern Theatre - Los Angeles 1991-03-25 - Sooner Or Later (Academy Awards) ABC - USA 1993-01-16 - Bad Girl + Fever (SNL 1993) NBC - USA 1993-05-13 - Fever + The Lady is a Tramp feat. Anthony Kiedis (Arsenio Hall Show: The 1000th Show) CBS - USA 1993-09-02 - Bye Bye Baby (MTV VMAs) - MTV - USA 1995-01-30 - Take A Bow feat. Babyface (American Music Awards) ABC - USA 1995-02-18 - Secret + Take A Bow (Wetten, Dass..?) ZDF - Germany 1995-02-20 - Bedtime Story (Brits Awards) ITV - UK 1995-02-22 - Take a Bow (San Remo Festival) Rai Uno - Italy 1995-11-02 - You'll See (Top of the Pops) BBC One - UK 1997-03-24 - You Must Love Me Live (Academy Awards) ABC - USA 1998-02-14 - Sky Fits Heaven + Shanti Ashtangi + Ray Of Light (The Roxy Club) NY 1998-02-21 - Frozen (BBC National Lottery) BBC One - UK 1998-02-24 - Frozen (San Remo Festival) Rai Uno - Italy 1998-02-27 - Frozen (Les Années Tubes) TF1 - France 1998-02-28 - Frozen + Interview (Wetten, Dass..?) ZDF - Germany 1998-03-06 - Frozen (Especial Madonna "Ray of Light") Telecinco - Spain 1998-03-13 - Frozen (The Rosie O'Donnell Show) NBC - USA 1998-04-06 - Frozen (Hey! Hey! Hey! Music Champ) Fuji TV - Japan 1998-04-06 - Frozen (Best "M" in the world) 1998-04-27 - Frozen (Rock the Rainforest - Rainforest Benefit Concert) Madonna also performed back up with al other celebs on "With a little help from my friends" and "Twist and shout". - NY 1998-05-29 - Ray Of Light + Little Star + Interview (The Oprah Winfrey Show) CBS - USA 1998-09-10 - Shanti Ashtangi + Ray Of Light (MTV VMAs) MTV - USA 1998-10-23 - The Power Of Good-Bye (4th VH-1 Vogue Fashion Awards) VH1 - USA 1998-11-07 - The Power Of Good-Bye (Wetten, Dass..?) ZDF - Germany 1998-11-11 - Drowned World + The Power Of Good-Bye (Sacrees Femmes) TF1 - France 1998-11-12 - The Power Of Good-Bye (MTV EMAs) MTV - EU 1998-11-15 - The Power Of Good-Bye (Sen Kväll Med Luuk) TV4 - Sweden 1998-11-17 - The Power of Goodbye + Interview + Drowned World (Séptimo de Caballería) TVE1 - Spain 1998-11-19 - The Power Of Good-Bye (Top of the Pops) BBC One - UK 1999-02-26 - Nothing Really Matters (Grammy Awards) CBS - USA 2000-11-03 - Don't Tell Me (The Late Show with David Letterman) CBS - USA 2000-11-05 - Impressive Instant + Runaway Lover + Don't Tell Me + What It Feels Like For A Girl + Music (Roseland Ballroom) NY 2000-11-11 - Don't Tell Me (Wetten, Dass..?) ZDF - Germany 2000-11-16 - Music feat. Ali G (MTV Emas) MTV - EU 2000-11-19 - Don't Tell Me + Music (Nulle Part Ailleurs) Canal + - France 2000-11-24 - Don't Tell Me (Top of the Pops) BBC One - UK 2000-11-28 - Impressive Instant + Runaway Lover + Don't Tell Me + What It Feels Like For A Girl + Holiday + Music (Brixton Academy) London 2000-12-02 - Don't Tell Me (Carramba Che Fortuna) Rai Uno - Italy 2000-12-24 - Music (Top Of The Pops Christmas 2000) BBC One - UK 2001-02-21 - Music (Grammy Awards) CBS - USA 2003-04-22 - American Life + Hollywood + Nothing Fails + X-Static Process + Like A Prayer (On Stage and on the Record Rehearsals) - RTL4 - Netherlands 2003-04-22 - American Life + Hollywood + Nothing Fails + X-Static Process + Like A Prayer (On Stage and on the Record) MTV - USA 2003-04-23 - American Life + Mother and Father + X-Static Process + Nothing Fails + Like A Virgin + Hollywood (Tower Records) NY 2003-04-24 - Mother And Father (The Today Show) NBC - USA 2003-04-29 - Mother And Father (includes excerpts of Tower Records performance) (Dateline) NBC - USA 2003-04-29 - American Life + Hollywood + Music (Absolute Madonna) RTL - Germany 2003-05-02 - American Life + Don't Tell Me + Hollywood (Friday Night with Jonathan Ross) BBC One - UK 2003-05-06 - American Life + Hollywood + Music (La Chanson Nº1) France 2 - France 2003-05-07 - American Life + Hollywood + Nothing Fails + X-Static Process + Mother And Father + Don't Tell Me + Like A Virgin (Le Cantine De Faubourg) Paris 2003-05-09 - American Life + Hollywood + Nothing Fails + X-Static Process + Mother And Father + Don't Tell Me + Like A Prayer (HMV Oxford Circus) London 2003-05-10 - American Life + Hollywood (CD:UK) ITV - UK 2003-05-15 - Hollywood (Top of the Pops) BBC One - UK 2003-08-28 - Hollywood feat. Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Missy Elliot (MTV VMAs) MTV - USA 2005-01-15 - Imagine (A concert of Hope: Tsunami Aid) London - NBC - USA 2005-07-02 - Like a Prayer + Ray of Light + Music (Live 8) London 2005-11-03 - Hung Up (MTV EMAs) MTV - EU 2005-11-06 - Hung Up (Wetten, Dass..?) ZDF - Germany 2005-11-08 - Hung Up + Get Together (Michael Parkinson Show) ITV - UK 2005-11-11 - Hung Up + Get Together (Star Academy) TF1 - France 2005-11-15 - Hung Up + Get Together + I Love New York + Let It Will Be + Everybody (Koko Club) London 2005-11-18 - Hung Up + Get Together (BBC Children In Need ) BBC One - UK 2005-11-19 - Hung Up + Get Together + I Love New York + Let It Will Be + Everybody + Jump (GAY Club) London 2005-12-07 - Hung Up + Get Together + I Love New York + Let It Will Be + Everybody (Studio Coast) Tokyo 2005-12-19 - Hung Up (Smap X Smap) Fuji TV - Japan 2006-02-08 - Feel Good Inc. Hung Up: Gorillaz ft. Madonna (Grammy Awards) CBS - USA 2006-04-30 - Hung Up + Get Together + I Love New York + Ray Of Light + Let It Will Be + Everybody (Coachella Valley Music Festival) Indio, California 2007-07-07 - Hey You + Ray of Light + La Isla Bonita + Hung Up (Live Earth) London 2008-04-30 - Candy Shop + Miles Away + 4 Minutes feat. Justin Timberlake + Hung Up + Give It 2 Me + Music (Roseland Ballroom) NY 2008-05-06 - Candy Shop + Miles Away + 4 Minutes + Hung Up + Give It 2 Me + Music (Olympia) Paris 2008-05-10 - Candy Shop + Miles Away + 4 Minutes + Hung Up + Give It 2 Me + Music (BBC 1 Radio Big Weekend) London 2010-01-22 - Like a Prayer (Hope for Haiti Now) MTV - USA 2012-02-05 - Vogue + Music + Give Me All Your Luvin + Like a Prayer (Super Bowl XLVI Halftime Show) Indianapolis - NBC - USA 2013-09-24 - Between The Bars (#SecretProjectRevolution Premiere at the Gagosian Gallery) NY 2014-01-25 - Same Love + Open Your Heart feat. Macklemore & Ryan Lewis, Mary Lambert, Madonna (Grammy Awards Rehearsal) CBS - USA 2014-01-26 - Same Love + Open Your Heart feat. Macklemore & Ryan Lewis, Mary Lambert, Madonna (Grammy Awards) CBS - USA 2014-01-29 - Don’t Tell Me/We Can’t Stop†feat. Miley Cyrus (MTV Unplugged) MTV - USA 2015-02-08 - Living for Love (Grammy Awards) CBS - USA 2015-02-25 - Living for Love (Brit Awards) ITV - UK 2015-03-02 - Living for Love (remix) + Ghosttown (Le Grand Journal) Canal + - France 2015-03-08 - Devil Pray + Ghosttown (Che Tempo Che Fa) Rai Tre - Italy 2015-03-14 - Living for Love (remix) + Ghosttown (The Jonathan Ross Show) ITV - UK 2015-03-17 - Living for Love (remix) (The Ellen Show) NBC - USA 2015-03-18 - Joan Of Arc (The Ellen Show) NBC - USA 2015-03-19 - Ghosttown (The Ellen Show) NBC - USA 2015-03-20 - Dress You Up (The Ellen Show) NBC - USA 2015-03-29 - Ghosttown feat. Taylor Swift (iHeart Radio Music Awards) NBC - USA 2015-04-09 - Bitch I'm Madonna feat. Diplo + Holiday feat. Jimmy Fallon & The Roots + Stand up comedy (The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon Show) NBC - USA 2015-04-12 - Human Nature + Hung Up (Coachella Valley Music Festival) Indio, California 2016-01-09 - La Vie En Rose (5th Annual Help Haiti Home Gala) Los Angeles 2016-03-10 - Tears of a Clown (Melbourne Forum) - Melbourne 2016-05-22 - Nothing Compares 2U + Purple Rain (Billboard Music Awards) ABC USA 2016-06-09 - Borderline (The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon) NBC USA 2016-11-07 - Express yourself + Don't tell me + Imagine + Like a prayer + If I had a hammer + Rebel heart (Hillary Clinton Campaign, Washington Square Park) NYC 2016-12-02 - Tears of a Clown (Raising Malawi Gala) - Miami 2017-01-21 - Express yourself + Human nature (Women's March against Trump) - Washington 2017-07-26 - 4 Minutes + Ray of Light + Ghosttown + Open your heart + La Isla Bonita (4th Annual St. Tropez Gala) France 2018-05-07 - Like a Prayer + Beautiful Game + Hallelujah (Met Gala) NYC, USA 2018-12-31 - Like a Prayer + Can't Help Falling in Love with You (Elvis Presley cover) (Stonewall Inn) NYC
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  18. What are your thoughts on this flashback? Did you get to see this performance LIVE? I didn't get to see it LIVE, but, I think I've watched this a thousand times. Madonna is so cute with her pixie and long eyelashes. I loved her light. So refreshing and Madonna gold....
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  19. THIS THIS THIS! She's such a character performer, even within her own albums! Great point about Erotica! Now I've got to relisten to it thank you! SO TRUE ABOUT HER SPEAKING VOICE! I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that. She has so much... color tone and variations even when it comes to her speaking voice omg! We have so many Madonnas to choose from yet there has only been one. WOW that's the magic of being a Madonna megafan.
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  20. Madonna just uploaded Ray of Light - Words + Music" audio interview to her YT channel
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  21. When the Guy Ritchie era is brought up I’m reminded of Kurt Cobain’s famous saying, “It’s better to be hated for who you are, than loved for who you are not. “ Yes, maybe she was more respected among the general public but she wasn’t being true to herself.
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  22. I don't think it has anything to do with Guy Ritchie, it seems like a result of a change in strategy where she decided to focus more on touring and less on being creative. So the Live Nation deal in 2007 is the reason for artistic downfall if you ask me. Luckily she came back with Madame X ?♥️
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  23. Spanky1995

    Madame X Tour DVD

    I cant wait only went to one show and so much to take in so I really need this dvd blu ray whatever
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  24. Fans can say what they want but i won't change my opinion that Guy Ritchie had a good influence on her and was real down to earth guy. Look at them now, she's a 62yo woman wearing grills with a fake butt dating a 25yo always high on weed guy and he's married to a movely wife and has a beautiful life and family, even Rocco chose to live with them. I can be a fan as much as possible i will never lose my sense of reality and i totally understand why a teenager/young guy decide to live with Guy instead of the circus that is his mother's life.
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  25. in all honesty that only kind of applies to the first four years of their mariage, AL (I adore that album btw) put a stop to that, Madonna was hated and boycotted in America worse than the sex/erotica backlash, her attempt to tone down her persona by taking on a lady of the manor look plus faux English accent and writing children's books (badly) was a very desperate move and look in my opinion and she was ridiculed for it. Confessions was an ok return to form and did regain some of her cred, which she lost immediately with Hard Candy, so no I wouldn't say she was praised and admired universally and never looked like a fool. The thing is Madonna is always walking the line between admiration and mockery, which is a thrilling thing, at least in my opinion, I just don't think that Guy had that much of an influence on her artistic choices. Also all her acting in that period says hello, at least that would be the part you hope Guy could have an effect on...
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  26. Re-Invention Tour and Live8 performance
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  27. It would be interesting to collect those bit where her voice has clearly been corrected. Do you already have some in mind @Arckangel?
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  28. it is and madonna uses it too. absolutely! at the same time, i think it is fair to say that nowadays she cares less about her vocals than she did on previous records.
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  30. I fucking love how Latin Pop/Reggaeton/Regional Mexican... Latino music in general pretty much dominates Pop music today here in the USA! Bad Bunny motherfuckers! Welcome to the Future and it is Hispanic and Brown and Gay
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  31. Guy Ritchie is one of the best things that happened to her, men wise. Her years as miss Ritchie were top notch, her music was brilliant, she was a class act. She wasn't making a fool of herself or acting embarassing. She never looked or acted desperate between 1999 and 2007. She was praised and admired worldwide. Obviously, and despite what most of her fans believe, Guy had a positive influence on her. I believe he was the one who was able to tell her "No you're not gonna put those grills on your mouth you look ridiculous" or "that song sounds terrible, are you really gonna make such shitty music ?". Since she got divorced everything went downhill for her. 1999-2007, facts speak...
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  32. My gripe with the book and even M herself acknowledged this later - was that it overshadowed the erotica album and the singles that followed it - she did amazing videos too that were ignored ( bad girl and rain ) both of which didn’t even make the top 10 - bad girl at the time stalled at 36 I believe her worst charting single in the US - I don’t think even M realised the fuss this book was going to cause and the negative reaction she got and you can’t say it didn’t harm her record sales because it did - erotica and bedtime stories barely sold over 5 million copies each worldwide by the end of the 90s ...
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  33. I've always loved this show! And I love the ending. I didn't see it live, but I have it on DVD and it's always been my favorite tour.
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  34. A piece of work that is integral to Madonna's story and mission as an artist...let alone the cultural significance then and now. This piece of work, the subsequent era, and how she rose from it are what fundamentally separates her from every other "pop star" in the game, male or female. Still amazed that there are fans that don't get it.
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  35. RUADJAI

    Madame X Tour DVD

    Im pretty sure it was Palestine at all Live performances. It should have been that way in the recording.
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  36. Fighter

    Madame X Tour DVD

    It looks so beautifully cinematic. Can't wait I might even buy it
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  37. Andymad

    Madame X Tour DVD

    I didn’t notice the hair change. Also I’m drunk.
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  38. Did you check this guys? She changed the style of the video, just look these pictures from the previous clip she shared in July! ? The 20's film style is not more!!!
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  39. omg.. it was a horrible accident and I hope those families get peace.
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  40. Madonna's career was "over" since 1984, the only thing Sex did was show how aware she was about the hypocrisy and misogyny that was being thrown at her since the beginning. It was like "Fuck, you think that was too much, now take this". She could have sold millions and reached #1s through the 90's being a safe, ballad singer. 'This Used to be My Playground' proves it. But in the long run, Erotica/Sex/Girlie only gave weight to her as an artist and paved the away for the pop bitches that came after.
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  41. It's such a good time ending. The whole Girlie show is really uplifting (even the saddest part regarding AIDS) She looks so happy and bright up. It's interesting how this concert connected to the 'dirty Madonna' period, is so happy and energetic. It's like a big finger to how the media was treating her.
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  42. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/08/16/arts/music/madonna-birthday-impact.html "In the “Sex” shot, Madonna used her body with as much animalistic force as her fellow Detroit rocker Iggy Pop. Her pose turned inside out the way sex is commonly used in pop culture nudes, expressing not a sexual lure but the power of personal confidence."
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  43. I think they should start it when she arrived in NYC in Times Square and end it when she wins a Grammy for Ray of Light. They can do an update over the credits about her later career.
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  44. Also thanks to Madonna making Pop female artist as something with a empowering sexuality we arrived to where we are today. It was always about cute pop singers or uber sexual artist, designed for men.
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  45. I don't see how it could run her career when she came with Bedtimes stories after, that was a success worldwide. Something to Remember was pretty succesful for a compilation, she was praised everywhere with Evita and then she delivered Ray Of Light, Music and American Life. The whole idea that Madonna's career was drowned because of Sex was more of a media/press wanting to stirr shit than anything else.
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  46. This is an amazing idea.
    1 point
  47. Enrico

    Madame X Tour DVD

    The footage looks really good, very cinematic. But the audio is so annoying! Can anyone capture the screenshots when you think it's not Madonna? That would be the ultimate result of mixing different shows! It started with a necklace in WTG and ended with a standby
    1 point
  48. The most boring bottle I have ever seen. And the O?
    1 point
  49. Oh god. How do they manage to find money to invest in such shitty projects. Totaly useless and seems very very cheap. Awfull design.
    1 point
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