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'Truth or Dare' Rolling Stone magazine amazing review!!!
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It's so strange to read positive reviews when critics, at that time, were all against her, but times change and, above all, ways of thinking's change. Here is a more than positive review of the documentary 30 years after its release! Published by 'Rolling Stone' ''Everyone copied 'In bed with Madonna', nobody did better'' link Truth or Dare - Rolling Stone review Blonde on Blonde: ‘Madonna: Truth or Dare’ at 30 Thirty years later, Alex Keshishian’s behind-the-scenes look at Madonna on her ‘Blond Ambition’ tour remains the template for the modern pop-star documentary By DAVID FEAR She doesn’t have to clean up the hotel room. You usually don’t get to spend time in luxury French hotel suites like this one unless you’re rich and megafamous, and when you get to be that rich and megafamous, you have plenty of people to clean up your messes. But the woman in the robe is still picking up the champagne flutes, pushing a tray of ice buckets into the corner, quietly tidying up the aftermath of a celebration. She’s talking about fear and anxiety and how last week, she was convinced she was having a nervous breakdown in Spain. The lights go out, she lays her weary head to rest, and the camera lingers on her, capturing what feels like an extremely vulnerable moment. It’s August of 1990. Instagram will not be invented for another 20 years, and TMZ won’t slouch toward Bethlehem for another 15. Twitter is not even a gleam in Jack Dorsey’s eye yet. In this late-Mesozoic era of celebrity culture, the curating of a famous person’s image is still outsourced, publicity is still a commodity, and privacy is still a bargaining chip. But this woman, a bona fide pop star who’s allowing someone to film her while she opens up directly to the camera and throws away empty Heineken bottles and sleeps? Bitch, she’s Madonna. And as was characteristic with everything else the singer/dancer/cultural icon had a well-manicured hand in, she’s gleefully rewriting the rules of the game in real time. A tour chronicle, a time capsule and a template, Madonna: Truth or Dare announced itself as something different the moment it premiered on May 10th, 1991. What started as an idea to shoot a few of her Blonde Ambition shows ended up becoming the blueprint for how to inject performative candor into pop-music documentaries — it doesn’t pull back the curtain on the backstage tantrums, the blood-sweat-tears hard work or the bitchy celebrity encounters so much as integrate them into the spectacle you’re seeing onstage. It’s all one big Madonna-drama-rama. And yet you still feel like you’re getting a portrait of an artist as a control freak that feels uniquely raw, semi-filtered, off-book if not off-camera. This is pop stardom as provocation verité. They should’ve called it Truth *and* Dare. The backstory has now become Her Madge-esty lore: Having seen filmmaker Alex Keshishian’s Harvard thesis (a pop-fueled take on Wuthering Heights), Madonna requests a meeting. They hit it off. He’s hired to shoot concert footage and some behind-the-scenes tidbits for a possible special on the upcoming tour, and is quickly whisked off to Japan. While there, he begins interviewing the show’s dancers, a hodgepodge of European, Asian, Hispanic and African-American men who are as integral to the stage show as the musicians. Because he can only pin them down to talk in the morning after they’ve come home from a night of post-performance partying, Keshishian conducts most of their interviews in bed. He realizes that he’s getting good stuff here. Ditto the backstage and after-hours exchanges. After showing Madonna some of what he’s shot, he pitches a pivot to something bigger, broader, more intimate than a concert movie. She agrees, and despite the protestations of her management, allows him and his crew to keep the cameras rolling longer after the house lights have gone up. You want to shoot Madonna reciting fart poems to her makeup artists, and tearing stage managers a new asshole over faulty monitors, and having an awkward exchange with her her dad after he’s witnessed her humping a bed onstage? Here’s your all-access pass, Alex. The end result remains a tantalizing mix of performance footage and Madonna-after-dark shenanigans, steely professionalism and NSFW personal fretting. This is Madonna you tend to think of when you think of her: the post-bracelets-and-lace blonde bombshell, all sinew and Gaultier corsets. (We stan the Cabaret droog look as well. ) But thirty years later, it practically plays like a greatest-hits album of private moments turned into pop-cultural touchstones: The water bottle. Kevin Costner calling the show “neat.” The Toronto cops turning “Like a Virgin” into a first-amendment Rubicon. The same-sex kiss. Blatantly flirting with Antonio Banderas. (The real hero of this doc? Antonio Banderas’ infinitely tolerant wife.) The montage of Madonna goofing around with her dancers between the sheets. The Pride parade. The clucking over a story involving an affair with the troupe’s one self-identified straight dancer. Warren Freakin’ Beatty. Everyone remembers Beatty’s great deathblow send-off — “She doesn’t want to live off-camera, much less talk…. Why say something if it’s off-camera? What point is there existing?” — but his real highlight arguably comes before that, when he’s watching the backstage circus blow through Madonna’s dressing room. As he watches her take her makeup off, he stands silently behind, hands on her shoulders. He stares straight into the camera and by extension, at the crew filming the whole encounter. And then he smiles and, with perfect movie-star timing, shakes his head. This is a man who has been famous for decades, and he doesn’t understand why someone would want their most mundane or messy exchanges captured for an audience. Madonna can’t understand why you wouldn’t give that to the public — shouldn’t a peek behind the curtain be a perk you control? This is how fame would be handled and managed in the 21st century, a sort of direct exchange between fan and artist. Mystique would be replaced by relatability, and Truth or Dare turns the whole celebrity thing into a balancing act. Madonna — she’s just like you, folks. She gets angry and depressed and occasionally has an off night. And also, don’t you wish you were hanging out with her and having these fabulous, once-in-a-lifetime experiences reserved for the stratospherically famous too? Truth or Dare remains groundbreaking in so many ways, from its gamble on showcasing what happens when people stop being nice and start getting real, to its depiction of gay life — a decade after AIDS began decimating the community, almost a decade before Will & Grace started selling it to the mainstream. It’s the way Madonna is writing her own warts-and-all narrative here that makes this the single most influential music documentary since Dylan’s Don’t Look Back, however. Everyone from Beyoncé to Bieber to Billie Eilish would attempt to replicate its mixture of brutal, behind-the-scenes honesty and big-tent showmanship — you don’t get Queen Bey admitting she’s insecure as she’s inches away from a camcorder or a depressed Katy Perry sobbing before a show without Madge showing them how it’s done. The difference is that few of today’s pop stars have the confidence or bravery to trust someone outside their team to capture a truth that isn’t vetted or micromanaged to death. After a 25th anniversary screening at the Museum of Modern Art (which Madonna herself allegedly crashed for a brief second), Keshishian admitted that he’d been approached over the years by numerous big-name musicians who claimed to want the full Truth or Dare treatment. He’d film for a week with carte blanche, he said, then cut together what he had. “’Well, we don’t want you to use that part, and I don’t want you to show me doing this.’ I’d say to [their] management, ‘There’s no movie here.’” There are too many layers to go through now, Keshishian said. With Truth or Dare, he essentially needed Madonna’s sign-off, and that was it. What she said was what they did, a stressed-out Liz Rosenberg and Freddy DeMann be damned. And what she wanted was something close to a gorgeously shot version of the ugly truth, 24 frames per second. She got it, or at the very least, one hell of a legend to print. Madonna always loved to take chances and push boundaries. This documentary was a gamble that, 30 years later, is still paying off.8 points -
This thread is literally the perfect example of 'Misery loves company'7 points
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Madame X Tour DVD
AaronAaronmm and 5 others reacted to felipe929 for a topic
Can someone just leak some rehearsals already? I remember we had some RHT studios while she was still on the road with the tour. I just want Future and Rescue Me tour demos ???6 points -
A 2 hours twins doing random things b-roll6 points
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The album Madame X seems to be a widely criticized and divisive album on the forum. It was praised by most critics as being bold, innovative, and exciting and as a return to Madonna the artist. The fans seem to have a much more negative reception towards it. The album is approaching its 2 year anniversary and the inevitable release of the tour film, I thought this would be the perfect time to poll where this fanbase stands on the album! Please vote and I hope you will comment more so below. Remember to be accepting of other people's opinions!5 points
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'Truth or Dare' Rolling Stone magazine amazing review!!!
VogueMusic and 3 others reacted to rlittler81 for a topic
Truth Or Dare remains the pinnacle piece of work for me in terms of showing Madonna to the world. It covers her music, live performances, her activism, her fame, her fearlessness... everything! It covers all areas of her life (at the time) and really shows what she was made of. If someone asked me “Why do you love Madonna so much?” I wouldn’t play them one of her albums, I’d show them ToD and say “this is why...”4 points -
I'm sure most people on here know my obsession and love for Madame X. I regard it as her best piece of work yet! The music is so inventive and it featured the return of my favorite M producer: Mirwais. I remember listening for the first time and being blown away. I immediately fell in-love with the album. It did strike me as so different and bizarre compared to her past works but that's what made me appreciate it even more. It stands out so much in her discography and she once again served quality after years of writing camps and trend chasing. The music has so many layers, to this day I feel like I am still discovering new sounds in the songs. I feel as though she combined all of my favorite things into one album: politics, electronic, and experimental sounds. I think I will always hold this album as my top favorite!4 points
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on the front page of Lil Buck's clothing line https://www.ffoclothing.com/ so i guess we exactly know now what this shoot was made for3 points
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Madame X Tour DVD
felipe929 and 2 others reacted to Brendanlovesu1 for a topic
if we leak diplo's nudes will he release it for us3 points -
A requeast? God save the Queens English.3 points
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To be honest i never listen to the album. Too dark and too many directions (reggaetton, classical music, reggae, disco, 90's dance, african beats....) and not one strong standout track that really blows away. It was nice for 5 minutes in 2019 but that's it.... and i am so over the Madame X personna and even the name, everytime she posts a red X i'm like meh... I don't know why she tries so hard to push that non-eventful era down our throat two years later, move on already and give us a fresh new era/album that suits your beautiful new leeks !3 points
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Madonna on Instagram / Facebook / Twitter + other Social Media
valinecode and 2 others reacted to Frank for a topic
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Where Do We Stand: Madame X
Frank and 2 others reacted to blondebenji for a topic
i freakin love it. still listening regularly and gets better and better with time.3 points -
I chose mediocre as well. Some songs are stand outs for me and I love them but some songs I just have to skip by because they get right on my nerves. I might have liked the album more if she used the looks she is using now for the cover. LOL .. and I still haven't gotten over the strings to the face pic of Rebel Heart, just yucky lookin to me - especially knowing how good she looks.3 points
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I chose "mediocre" although it's not my exact feeling. I still listen to it, I like it but I don't love it and here are the reasons: - extremely incoherent; the soul of the album goes from track 5 to 10, the Portuguese part; I never go after track 10 - wrong production that tries to appeal a young public; bad results with the choice to sing with grillz and too much autotune - very repetitive lyrics3 points
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I can't get over the fact you can have "Bitch i'm loca" and "Dark ballet" on the same album... i mean could you imagine "Bitch i'm loca" on Ray of light for example ?! I agree not every albums have to be totally cohesive but to certain extent. Here the jump is way too big, it gives a messy feel to it as a whole. A beautiful cohesive sonically album is still way more class, imo.2 points
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Where Do We Stand: Madame X
DiegoLCL and one other reacted to Velvet Rope for a topic
I love the Madame X album and it's her most solid and cohesive work since Confessions. It's not my favorite favorite but it stands up better than Hard Candy,MDNA,and Rebel Heart (a few standout tracks but overall trash). There are a couple recycleable tracks (Bitch I'm Loca & Funana are the ones that came to my mind,the latter doesn't affect the album since it's just a bonus but it shouldn't have been released at all) but overall they don't hinder the overall scope of the album. I think her working with Mirwais again helped significantly as well as tightening up security on her hard drives so there wasn't a massive leak of the album before its release (Rebel Heart). I genuinely believe this album was the step in the right direction she needed to take and I hope her next album is even better than MX.2 points -
Where Do We Stand: Madame X
Voguerista and one other reacted to Shoful for a topic
Okay I’ll just change to Neutral to avoid confusion haha2 points -
Where Do We Stand: Madame X
Husam Elzien and one other reacted to Scottyx for a topic
Blame Ariana for the mumbling. Girl sings with a mouth full of marbles2 points -
Where Do We Stand: Madame X
Enrico and one other reacted to Husam Elzien for a topic
I mean yes and no. Mediocre can refer to something not good and/or not bad but people usually use the word when they refer to something of low quality and barely passable. I think that's where the confusion on the use of the word is coming from because I view the word mediocre more as something that closely borders on 'it sucks' than something that's neither good or bad.2 points -
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Where Do We Stand: Madame X
madaboutM and one other reacted to NowRadiate for a topic
I like a few songs but ... it‘s one of the worst.2 points -
Where Do We Stand: Madame X
madaboutM and one other reacted to deathproof for a topic
It's great, I love it. Even if there's a few skips, I still rank it very highly. My only complaint is the mumbling vocal styling all throughout the album. I just wish that wasn't a thing. I pray for clear enunciation on the next album2 points -
Where Do We Stand: Madame X
musicman and one other reacted to Beautiful Madonna for a topic
I love it!! ?❤2 points -
Madame X Tour DVD
Beautiful Madonna and one other reacted to PanditaRulez for a topic
I WANT WORLD PRIDE 2019 FULL PROFESSIONALLY FILMED SHOW!!!2 points -
Madame X Tour DVD
vitoralmeiida and one other reacted to Frank for a topic
Most probably we'll get nothing, or just an edit of the workshop already shared and documented on her Insta, who knows... IMHO these days that she posts lots of backstage and workshop stuff on Insta i really don't need any backstage footage as an extra on the BD/DVD, unless is completely new footage. I'll be happy with a physical release, BD/2CDs combo with beautiful artwork and a great booklet AND THE F*CKING FULL SHOW.2 points -
Madame X Tour DVD
felipe929 and one other reacted to Sultrysully for a topic
I think that Madonna has earned the right to post as she pleases.2 points -
Its been a minute since MDNA Skin huh? Surely she's aligning her new ads to drop around the time of the DVD for Maximum exposure. They may even be set to some sort of music of hers. A minute and a half You Tube / Social ad with her music behind it counts as a stream so...get money. Madame X is a hustler.2 points
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Madame X Tour DVD
voguemadonna and one other reacted to Ekans for a topic
Why no one likes I'm Addicted? ? Such an amazing song, to me it's one of the best of the decade.2 points -
Madonna on Instagram / Facebook / Twitter + other Social Media
Madame Madonna and one other reacted to dylanlioncourt for a topic
Madonna recorded her bits and then a Missy rap was included. Also M is a huge fan of Missy and has always been supportive and kind to her as well as Dua. She didn't film due to injury. Not everything needs to be drama for the sake of it.2 points -
Supernatural Goodbye to Innocence or Up Down Suite?2 points
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Die Another Day Supernatural or Your Honesty?2 points
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Where Do We Stand: Madame X
DiegoLCL reacted to deathproof for a topic
I think the issue here is that fans were expecting a concept or overall theme, when there wasn’t even one to begin with. Madonna even said it herself that Madame X wasn’t a concept album. Madame X is a dancer, a prostitute, a mother, a teacher..., because that’s who Madonna is. Madonna wears multiple hats and takes on multiple roles in her day to day life, and in career. She is a mother AND a father. Madonna basically defined and put a name to her act of “re-invention.” It’s not even a reinvention, when all those facets and disguises make up who Madonna really is. She is all those people.1 point -
Where Do We Stand: Madame X
PlayPause reacted to ShantiAshtangi for a topic
That's basically how I feel bout it including having replaced LAV as my least-favorite album. The only song I really like is Looking for Mercy. There are a couple of other songs that I'm quite fond of but they have all have things that irk me. The rapper in Crave, the autotune in Extreme occident, the muffled vocals in God Control, everything that follows the Beautiful Game-part in Dark ballet. I think you can tell what she wanted to achieve with the record – an avant-garde record with an organic production that touches real issues. But in the end, there is too much autotune, the songs have no hooks or melodies, the lyrics are way too repetitive and banal in many places and the production leaves a lot to be desired as many interesting parts are buried way too low in the mix (why hiring a choir if you turn it into an autotuned mess that is way too much in the back of the mix?). But mostly, I miss her beautiful voice. Listen to American Pie. That was a beautiful vocal production, there is so much warmth and emotion is her voice, she really manages to elevate that cover version onto a whole new level. And as a concept album Madame X doesn't work either. When I heard her talking about all the different personas of Madame X (she's a teacher, a mother, a whore …) I thought that each song would reflect one of the many faces of Madame X. That wouldn't have been cohesive either but at least it would have made sense. However, the whole concept of Madame X was pretty half assed. She wore an eye patch for no reason and barely made an appearance.1 point -
Where Do We Stand: Madame X
gafuller reacted to SuperBicycle for a topic
I'm a fan, not her best work, but a good solid effort and return to form. Something about Madame X feels to me like it is more personal to Madonna, especially after seeing the theatre tour. Not one for the casual or new fans, but I do think this album was a gift to Madonna herself and her fans, as we were able to absorb herself in her world, not the world of Madame X, but the world of Madonna, a superstar icon, who the world has no template for, after a 30+ year career that is still going. The references to her pet issues, gun control, discrimination etc link right back to what she has been educating us for her whole career, and the Portuguese influences were an insight to where she was in her life at the time. It made me feel like I was being invited into her world, a very personal album. The layers of music and different influences are not like any other work she has done. I really hope we get more of this sort of thing, what Madonna is experiencing, enjoying and living, though that would probably mean some sort of rap/hip hop album, which I would not like, but probably still buy... I don't listen to it as often as I did last year, but do still enjoy giving it a spin every few weeks.1 point -
Prob the purpose of all these new pics. Amazing what that roller can do lol1 point
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What Is Your Worst Madonna Albums?
Madame Madonna reacted to Renato Iodice for a topic
I somewhat agree. To me Bedtime Stories is good, but definitely not great. I guess its perception is helped by its great videos, but the tracklist is hit or miss; I love Secret, Bedtime Story, Sanctuary, Take a Bow, Survival, but the rest is... er... not that great. Don't Stop and I'd Rather etc etc are among her worst '90 songs, and I don't get the appeal of Forbidden Love or Love Tried To Welcome Me either: the production is not bad, but there's something that bores me. Unpopular opinion: Human Nature could be one of her best video, but the track itself is just fine, nothing else.1 point -
Masterpiece Sessions?
Voguerista reacted to Shoful for a topic
So I begrudgingly put on MDNA today and listened straight through as I went to the gym. And wow Masterpiece is truly THAT SONG! Now I know this song was written for her movie, but were there any other songs written during that session? This song is leaps and bounds ahead of everything else on MDNA.1 point -
Where Do We Stand: Madame X
Voguerista reacted to Levon for a topic
The answer options are not sufficient for me too. On the one hand, I think the album is an exciting musical experience, but there is so much light and shade that I can't compare it to Ray of Light, American Life or Like a Prayer. MX has the same problem as Rebel Heart: too many songs of extremely different quality, making it difficult to listen to in one piece on the side. It's like constantly changing extremely different radio stations. My answer option would have been: I can't classify it as awesome, mediocre or bad - but the album had the potential to be a masterpiece. Now I have chosen neutral, even if the term sounds a little harsh.1 point -
Where Do We Stand: Madame X
Voguerista reacted to heartcore for a topic
It's not her best, but it's definitely up there. It was absolutely a return to form after two middling albums (MDNA & Rebel Heart). I think it really showed that M's fire and passion for creativity was back. I completely disagree with the idea that she's trying to appeal to a younger audience, the album is very much in its own bubble aside from Future. My only real complaints are that she didn't follow through with the whole alter-ego of Madame X aside from the mantra, and that some of tracklist could've done with some slight rejigging (I would've put swapped out Future, Looking for Mercy, and I Rise for Funana and Ciao Bella).1 point -
I’m listening to a collection of Rebel Heart demos someone on here put together with EMaster. AND HOLY CRAP THIS DEMO OF HOLD TIGHT. WIG FUCKING SNATCHEDDDDDDD!! I AM LIVING FOR THIS!!! (It’s demo 2014 10 07, if anyonr was wondering) @deathproof1 point
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Madame X Tour DVD
RayofPrayers reacted to steady75 for a topic
It just feels like the track the basic gays flock to. It's Ok but in truth it's about the same vibe as Runaway Lover which is one of the worst on the Music album. That sort of puts it into perspective for me. The quality is so low elsewhere people gravitate towards the safety of four to the floor beats and drug references.1 point -
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Masterpiece Sessions?
Voguerista reacted to realityisalways for a topic
I love the song just the way it is, but the way it starts makes me think of the ray of light demos. Like its still in one of its earliest forms and could have been much more if the production would have been more polished. I agree its the best song on MDNA, I wish she did a complete album with those types of songs. A Something to Remember 2.1 point -
Masterpiece Sessions?
Voguerista reacted to Shoful for a topic
She’s crazy. She might’ve won an Oscar1 point -
Madonna Song, This or That Game!
Voguerista reacted to Tony Fortin for a topic
Ain't No Big Deal Come Alive or Crave?1 point -
Can we make our own GHV2?
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01 This Used to be My Playground (Single Version) 02 Erotica (Album Version) 03 Deeper and Deeper (Album Edit) 04 Rain (Radio Remix) 05 Secret (Radio Edit) 06 Take a Bow (Edit) 07 Human Nature (Radio Edit) or Human Nature (Howie Tee Clean Remix Radio Edit) 08 Bedtime Story (Edit Version) 09 You Must Love Me (Single Version) 10 Don't Cry For Me Argentina (Miami Mix Edit) 11 Frozen (Edit Version) 12 Ray of Light (Radio Edit Version) 13 Drowned World / Substitute for Love (Radio Edit) 14 The Power of Good-bye (Album Version) 15 Beautiful Stranger (Radio Version) 16 Music (Album Version) 17 Don't Tell Me (Radio Edit) 18 What it Feels Like for a Girl (Above & Beyond Club Radio Edit)1 point -
1. Erotica [Radio Edit]2. Deeper And Deeper [7" Edit]3. Bad Girl [Radio Edit]4. Fever [Edit One]5. Rain [Video Edit]6. This Used To Be My Playground [barcelona Gold Edit]7. Secret [Radio Edit]8. Take A Bow9. Bedtime Story [Album Edit]10. Human Nature [Video Edit]11. You Must Love Me [single Version]12. Frozen [Radio Edit]13. Ray Of Light [Radio Edit]14. The Power Of Goodbye15. Nothing Really Matters 16. Music 17. Don't Tell Me [Radio Edit]18. What It Feels Like For A Girl [Above & Beyond Radio Edit]GHV2 Remixed:1. Erotica (William Orbit 12" Mix)2. Deeper And Deeper (Shep's Classic 12" Mix)3. Fever (Murk Boys Deep South Mix)4. Secret (Junior's Sound Factory Mix)5. Take A Bow (Indasoul Mix)6. Bedtime Story (Junior's Sound Factory Mix)7. Human Nature (Howie Tee Remix)8. Frozen (Stereo MC's Mix)9. Ray Of Light (William Orbit Liquid Mix)10. The Power Of Goodbye (Dallas Low End Mix)11. Nothing Really Matters (Club 69 Radio Mix)12. Music (Calderone Anthem Mix)13. Don't Tell Me (Thunderpuss Hands In The Air Anthem Mix)14. What It Feels Like For A Girl (Paul Oakenfold Perfecto Remix)1 point
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Can we make our own GHV2?
OceanBlue reacted to Bitch I’m Madonna for a topic
I'm actually working on designing one. I had this idea of using the DVD release of DWT and the release of GHV2 for cross promotion. The whole packaging and design would be inspired by the video backdrop for Paradise (Not for Me) and the Geisha section from DWT. The song would be included as bonus track and released as a single for promo. Front Booklet: Inside view - not finished: Back: So, my tracklist would be: [*]Erotica [Radio Edit] [*]Fever [Edit One - Video Version] [*]Human Nature [Video Version] [*]Don't Tell Me [Radio Edit] [*]Secret [Edit] [*]Rain [Remix Edit] [*]Ray of Light [Edit - with laughing outro] [*]Beautiful Stranger [W/O Radio Edit] [*]American Pie [*]Music [Edit w/o Intro] [*]Deeper and Deeper [7" Edit] [*]Don't Cry for Me Argentina [Miami Mix Edit] [*]You'll See [Edit] [*]Frozen [Edit] [*]Take a Bow [Edit] [*]The Power of Good-Bye [*]Bedtime Story [*]Nothing Really Matters [Edit] [*]Paradise (Not for Me) [Edit] The album, sadly exceed the maximum length :( So, Paradise would have to be removed. I didn't put I'll Remember and TUTBMP on there bc adding them would make STR pointless. I also feel that this selection does not only focus on her biggest HITS, because she wasn't THAT successful in the 90's but rather on her most memorable moments from that decade.1 point
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