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  1. @Jascka From my point this is a thread about this sort of things: fans/haters, etc.. People are taking things way too personal and i don’t understand why. I never said having opinions is bad. I have never said don't be critical. I was pointing out the negativity that comes from those sort of views. We are all different and we all have different minds i dont see that as a problem at all. I just got a problem with the negativity. Im all for peace. ??♥️❌
  2. SORRY FOR THE COMMOTION. Well, first off i was trying to be funny ( sense of humour) when i invented FATER . I thought it might pick up as the word frenemy ?. Fater just like frenemy is not an insult so people shouldn't take it that way. And i have never stated fans shouldnt have critical opinions or discussions. After all thats what we are here for. All i was pointing out was the constant negativity regarding M. I see a lot of it going around in forums dedicated to her so i was just saying if a fan has many or all of those points then they might be a fater. Dont see why peeps feel so threatened by this. At the end of the day you guys know what you have in your heart so im not judging anybody here. PLEASE, LETS ALL GET ALONG. ??❤️❌
  3. The problem is that Madonna has loads of ( way too many) FATERS - fan/haters ?. How to spot a FATER: * Theyre never ever happy with anything new Madonna releases. They write long and tedious essays on why her new material is no good always comparing it to her previous works which im sure they had slagged off too. * They pay so much attention to details and little insignificant things to the point of dissecting it like a CSI agent. So there will always be something for them to moan about and criticise. * Theyre often and usually part of the ageist and sexist narrative. * They waive their right of free speech and accuse other fans of being blind sheep; basically if i dont hate a particular song or denounce M on a particular issue then i am a stupid follower with no opinion for myself. * Theyre passive/ aggressive on pretty much everything. They might express some positive opinion on something but it usually follows with a negative one so that anything M does is basically meh. * They use Madonnas long history with controversy to highlight her perceived missteps. Quite often siding with the biased media machine than actual standing by M. * The failure to grasp that M started out as a dance/ urban artist. Yes people thought she was black. But they quickly jump on bandwagon of accusing M of trying to be cool or go down with the kids when she does urban music. The whole thing comes across quite racist and ignorant in my opinion. * They are very critical of how Madonna looks; color of hair, fillers, wrinkles, ass size... Honestly i dont even want to bore myself with the long list of how Madonna should or shouldn’t look like. * They hate anything else M does besides music. No films, no other lucrative businesses ( gyms, hotels, restaurants, clothing... and of course MDNA skin)! Madonna should only have a music career which more than likely they are also not too happy with anyway. * They fail (they refuse) to understand how the music business works these days. They cant see how features, duets and collabs are practically nothing to be stressing about because its the norm in music today. Same for autotune and other production trickeries.. nothing to lose sleep over because its the norm but for these fans those issues are the make it or break it of a particular song. * They use charts as a validation point. Basically Madonnas music is no good if it doesnt reach the number 1 spot. Instead of being logical on this charts thing they love to compare Madonnas today impact on the charts with the likes of Ariana Grande and Taylor Swift. As a fan i cant for the love of God even consider todays messy charts with the glorious days when M had global number ones after number ones based on sales rather than likes, clicks and views ( which are extremely easy to manipulate and buy these days). Madonnas the most successful female artist of all times not having hits in the late stage of her career wont change that so i dont understand this morbid obsession. Anything else?❌
  4. Sorry women of The View but Madonna is not Diana Ross or Grace Jones. Cant believe that any of those women pointed out how ground breaking Madonna career was. Something never seen before. They didnt understand M interview at all.
  5. She recited this fun poem during Truth Or Dare. No idea where she got it from but the world is full of fart jokes so who knows... Why this sudden interest about this??
  6. Jeez. Nobody here said shes Beethoven. She has skills and theyre good. Why question them?
  7. You ll have to kill me for me to even start making a mental chart on what comes first and/or last from this out of this world album! Comparing Promise To Try to Oh Father... Til Death Do Us Part to Keep It Together... Love Song to Act Of Contrition... Like A Prayer to Express Yourself... Cherish to Dear Jessie...Spanish Eyes is possibly one of her best songs ever! Its like asking me to name what we need the most to survive: sun, water, air or earth? This is why this album is a masterpiece: each song is part of the whole. One song doesn’t exist without the other. Dont get me wrong each and one song is very strong on its own ( as proved by the singles) but to truly work and bring them to another level is when you listen to them as part of the album as a whole. Lets not forget this is an album inspired by the powers that be. Only Madonna could! lol
  8. In the US the media is somewhat moderate/ liberal. Fox News is the exception obvz but say in other countries and im talking about the UK where im from the press is extremely conservative and far right.
  9. Again where are the receipts? SJW is not a political party or an organisation. Were these people around when Madonna released Like A Prayer or Erotica? And trust me M always got attacked. Its nothing new... Long before these SJW came along on the Internet. These SJW peeps are a social media movement with no faces, no names, no real background. Just because you read comment with the SJW hastag that doesnt mean anything.. Are they really fighing for justice or just bitch about? Lesson from history: Nero burned Rome and he blamed the Christians; the Nazis set the House of Parliament in Berlin on fire and blamed the communists.
  10. Theres really no proof of that and i was talking about the conservative media which has always trashed M. If you base anything on social media you ll never get to the bottom of it. Peeps pretend to be all sorts on social media. I find that a lot of this “its offensive” line of talk is not necessarily connected to a political scope. I came to realize that people who easily get offended are also the ones who offend the most. So go figure.
  11. What on earth are you talking about? Honestly you live in another reality. You need to stop this spreading of lies.
  12. Very true. I think its the ugly side of stanning for a particular artist; in order to validate them these fans feel the need to trash others. Its very immature and mean spirited. But as usual Madonna is in a league of her own. Her anti bigotry and liberal silver lining mentality has always pissed off conservative folks so she had to suffer the worst.
  13. Far from it. It was her take on a nation obsessed with guns and violence. I think she released a statement at some point because of the criticism. Of course Americans would rather ban fake guns in a show than actual ban the real thing that causes death and tragedy to millions. Oh the world!
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