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This was from 14 or 15 years ago - no one is going to look the same as they did 15 years ago, surgery or no surgery.

That would be far too sensible! ;)

That would be far too sensible! ;)

Yes and the Ballroom scene where Madonna got inspired for Vogue didn't have trans representation..
Maybe it wasn't that there weren't many people but that they weren't allow to be or call  by so many other names. I remind you that in Russia they don't have gays only real men. So consider how much prejudice and hate controls what you see or want to see.
If you pay attention to the queer history instead of getting angry at teens on line,  you'll get a better insight.

There's nothing 'woke' about being trans. Being trans is nothing new or nothing of a culture or a trend. Don't be an ignorant.

When people don't know you, they can't tell if you're being ironic and most people here also have no attachment to that Italian lady you like. 
When something "ironic" looks just like what you're trying to "mock", maybe don't post it?

In January, i'm a nurse. Got antibodies already.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/01/07/fact-check-false-claim-facial-recognition-antifa-capitol/6580679002/

It may be your opinion but facts are facts. The people who invided the Capitol building were not antifa, they were white supremacists and fascists. Period.

@MadonnaLoveYou have like 3 points of view in this thread that don't even go together. Go read some news articles. 
 

@professormouse the privilege is that if you go outside as a white person you're not going to be racially profiled by police. It doesn't mean you live in luxury. Altho for some of us not being racially profiled sounds like a luxury indeed!

Uhm, he was Edward VIII, a king who gave up his throne to marry the woman he loved. It's a fascinating story. And yes, they were Nazi sympathisers as well and, having read some books on the subject, quite unpleasant individuals overall. That doesn't change the fact that they changed the course of modern history and their story is fascinating. Saying they were nothing but Nazi supporters is simply, well, reductive but if seeing a world in completely binary terms helps you sleep better at night I'm happy for you . 

She does have the tendency to romanticise historical figures. Joan of Arc is another example. I mean, that girl would be on heavy medication pronto these days. 

You realise this W.E. was not a documentary? 

Uhm, he was Edward VIII, a king who gave up his throne to marry the woman he loved. It's a fascinating story. And yes, they were Nazi sympathisers as well and, having read some books on the subject, quite unpleasant individuals overall. That doesn't change the fact that they changed the course of modern history and their story is fascinating. Saying they were nothing but Nazi supporters is simply, well, reductive but if seeing a world in completely binary terms helps you sleep better at night I'm happy for you . 

She does have the tendency to romanticise historical figures. Joan of Arc is another example. I mean, that girl would be on heavy medication pronto these days. 

She does have the tendency to romanticise historical figures. Joan of Arc is another example. I mean, that girl would be on heavy medication pronto these days. 

I think her justifications were weird. I dont know why she was so overly defensive. It's still ok imho for her to make the movie, but she could've explained that it didn't have anything to do with that rather than denying history. It felt like she was romanticizing them too much. 

Wallis and Eduard are commonly known examples of what happens when you have to choose between your head and your heart - and he movie is only about that moment and not about their later tragic and wrong attempts to find a new social and political footing.

Up to the moment when the two decided for each other, she could not be accused of anything wrong. In this respect, Madonna doesn't have to justify herself for focusing on their - until then - innocent love story. An artist is free to present his personal view of things without this having to be done in a politically correct manner.

I like it a lot too. But I do think it doesn't belong on the "Music" album.