Why didn't Madonna sue Adi Lederman into poverty for stealing RH?

[pepshettibone 84]

   I can't believe the guy just got a slap on the wrist for what he did? 14 months in a country club prison really??
Little do they know this guy has been hacking and stealing from top studios and re-selling the looted studio assets all along,
and he continues to do it.
If the studios and record labels knew how much money he has made off selling stems and multitracks on the net through a bunch of kids he'd be going back to a REAL prison...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/11729487/Former-Israeli-Pop-Idol-jailed-for-hacking-Madonna-emails-and-selling-demo-tracks.html

[poserdemadonna 1,630]

Maybe because Adi Lederman doesn't really exist...?

[Dazedmadonna 16,406]

Think he mostly got his sentence based on the Rebel Heart hacks, ignoring that this steal-trade-sale thing has been going on for more than 10 years.

Madonna wasn't the only one he sold stuff of, various artists (like Beyoncé, Britney, Rihanna, Kylie, Lady Gaga and many many more)'s stuff were sold; demos, outtakes, stems, anything.

[Guest]

And quite possibly other suits against him are pending or are still in the works.  

[Jackie 8,028]

Maybe because Adi Lederman doesn't really exist...?

That's my theory also!

[pepshettibone 84]

No he exists, did anyone here ever see his hideous singing attempt on the Isreali version of Idol? It was on Youtube. I had never even heard of him, other than recalling the Rebel Heart leak in the news.
I only discovered what this guy has been doing about a year ago through a collector who sent me a list of multitracks,stems, and instrumentals for sale that had to have been stolen from a big studio or record label. We're talking recent popular top 40 things. Prices ranged from $150 to $250 per pack. 
I'm sure karma will eventually catch up to him. 

[Jackie 8,028]

No he exists, did anyone here ever see his hideous singing attempt on the Isreali version of Idol? It was on Youtube. I had never even heard of him, other than recalling the Rebel Heart leak in the news.

I only discovered what this guy has been doing about a year ago through a collector who sent me a list of multitracks,stems, and instrumentals for sale that had to have been stolen from a big studio or record label. We're talking recent popular top 40 things. Prices ranged from $150 to $250 per pack. 

I'm sure karma will eventually catch up to him. 

 

I'm not defending this person whether real or not, but what you need to understand is that a lot of people re sold stuff. So, they would buy one item off 'him' for $250, but would then re sell that for $350, $500, $550 to many many people. So 'he' did not always profit, it was other greedy fans that did.  I read that 'he' originally sold the RH demos for as low as $35....but it was greedy fans that jacked up the price, and then traded them like water in Africa.

 

Plus, to think that he was the only one doing this, is so naive, the world has how many billion people? Think about it.

[Guest]

I'm not defending this person whether real or not, but what you need to understand is that a lot of people re sold stuff. So, they would buy one item off 'him' for $250, but would then re sell that for $350, $500, $550 to many many people. So 'he' did not always profit, it was other greedy fans that did.  I read that 'he' originally sold the RH demos for as low as $35....but it was greedy fans that jacked up the price, and then traded them like water in Africa.

 

Plus, to think that he was the only one doing this, is so naive, the world has how many billion people? Think about it.

Yet the leaks have stopped!  So whether he acted alone or not, doesn't matter since it's apparent a message has been sent. But of course, as technology evolves, it won't stop people in the future to leak her stuff.  I'm not naive to believe there aren't  people who are among her circle (especially those working on her music at the time) are not at fault to what is leaked.  Maybe not necessarily the top producer, but there are always people working under them who have access to the studio and files.  Personally, I can't see it ever stopping.  It all comes down to those people working for her, and if they are easily hacked or themselves leaking things. 

 

All in all, I look at it as a compliment if her future work is leaked.  It means that these people who are leaking her work, believe she's quite relevant that people still actually care.  I mean; think about those who were her peers from the 80's.  For instance, who is leaking Cyndi Lauper's work?  As far as know, no one!  

[Jackie 8,028]

For instance, who is leaking Cyndi Lauper's work?  As far as know, no one!  

 

lol exactly! Or Janet Jackson :P 

[Fighter 28,797]

Meanwhile Jorge got arrested and they yelled that proudly when it was this other guy that was behind everything. aehfiaefhiaehf

 

I don't know why it couldn't be done properly in the first place without shenanigans and public witch hunts.

[dylanlioncourt 5,775]

I know people still have items in their collections that haven't leaked but after the arrest made, probably either are afraid to or want insane amounts of money for their stash.

Most of the demos for this record have leaked minus a few and other things.

It depends where the files are stored and whom they are passed along. Madonna said a lot of the production and tracks were worked outside of the studio constantly, things being sent via email, phone etc so no doubt a hacker wouldn't easily obtain early mixes, stems, vocals etc.

[SpencerCSR 55]

A bit off topic, but one thing I've always wondered was how sites like DrownedMadonna and Madonnarama were able to describe each song before the leaks with surprising accuracy. Who would their sources be?

[Jackie 8,028]

A bit off topic, but one thing I've always wondered was how sites like DrownedMadonna and Madonnarama were able to describe each song before the leaks with surprising accuracy. Who would their sources be?

The tracks were already doing the rounds.

[dylanlioncourt 5,775]

I did love their illustrations for each of the songs. So spot on!

The hysteria during that time. I remember a forum I was a member on was passing this random dummy file which I assumed to be fake and it turned out to be SEX (album version) I think the clip someone made ended up leaking and spreading on the net the day it leaked.

I still think M should hike up security for this record and aside from the usual iTunes early leaks or the ones sent for a press review leaking, this record should be kept in the studio or places where her and collaborators will be working. 

Imagine if M had sent Lola "Bitch I'm Madonna" when she asked her. 

[pepshettibone 84]

The problem I have with this Adi Lederman is that he is stealing studio assets from some well known recording/remix studios in the US.
It's definitely a Catch 22. Most of us will turn a blind eye if something leaks, but the reality is if Adi is continually hacking into studios to steal and re-sell music someone is getting hurt in my profession and I don't like that.
If labels start to see assets leaking onto the net, the studios are the ones who are going to get the blame. I guess that's just the industry guy in me. I only collect as a side hobby. On that note why couldn't Adi have at least grabbed Like a Prayer, L.I.B multitracks etc?? JK :P 

[Bad Boy 53]

Well, if he's going to be leaking anything then let it be something we've desired for years like Warning Signs, DSS, CYSMM etc. rather than damaging her upcoming albums.

[pepshettibone 84]

Apparently he lurks on reddit pages still trying to sell new stems and multitracks. Probably changes his username often. Watch him get busted for selling some hideous top 40/EDM multitrack. That would be hilarious!

[Jackie 8,028]

Apparently he lurks on reddit pages still trying to sell new stems and multitracks. Probably changes his username often. Watch him get busted for selling some hideous top 40/EDM multitrack. That would be hilarious!

 

What's with your obsession with him? Who really cares.

[PlayPause 2,675]

   I can't believe the guy just got a slap on the wrist for what he did? 14 months in a country club prison really??

Little do they know this guy has been hacking and stealing from top studios and re-selling the looted studio assets all along,

and he continues to do it.

If the studios and record labels knew how much money he has made off selling stems and multitracks on the net through a bunch of kids he'd be going back to a REAL prison...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/11729487/Former-Israeli-Pop-Idol-jailed-for-hacking-Madonna-emails-and-selling-demo-tracks.html

 

Hum, so in your opinion, what punishment did he deserve ? 100 years of jail ? Death sentence ? His hands cut off, his balls, his ears ?

 

If you think spending 14 months in prison is easy, then take his place.

[Maddy Ritchie 13]

apparently prison isn't as hard as you guys think.

Adi still is selling stuff like before, unfortanly nothing new since his arrest but in the ten years he had acces too Madonna's dropbox he managed to get so many stuff which still hasnt leaked.

 

However he is indeed much more carefull and much more expensive.

[Enrico 15,788]

If they start selling things again, we will have more leaks.

One thing is certain: no material after 2015, such as full TOAC.

But it would be wonderful if they had stolen the old demos: that's the only chance we have to ever hear them...

[pepshettibone 84]

I've looked at all the supposed multitracks for sale lists from this Adi (Muso) guy, not much Madonna listed surprisingly. 
I really think he only had access to R.H. and newer stuff. If there had been older sessions he would have sold them too. He was selling Prince-Let's Go Crazy multitracks before he disappeared. That just shows he wasn't that concerned with how popular the artist is. $$$ 

[null 2,303]

48 minutes ago, pepshettibone said:

I've looked at all the supposed multitracks for sale lists from this Adi (Muso) guy, not much Madonna listed surprisingly. 
I really think he only had access to R.H. and newer stuff. If there had been older sessions he would have sold them too. He was selling Prince-Let's Go Crazy multitracks before he disappeared. That just shows he wasn't that concerned with how popular the artist is. $$$ 

So you're saying Prince is not that popular of an artist? That's the biggest crock of shit I've ever heard in my 22 years on this planet.

[Jaawsshhh 536]

On 12/27/2017 at 6:17 AM, Dazedmadonna said:

Think he mostly got his sentence based on the Rebel Heart hacks, ignoring that this steal-trade-sale thing has been going on for more than 10 years.

Madonna wasn't the only one he sold stuff of, various artists (like Beyoncé, Britney, Rihanna, Kylie, Lady Gaga and many many more)'s stuff were sold; demos, outtakes, stems, anything.

I hope he can get his hands on unreleased Spice Girls music.

[Eyzonme 929]

On 27/12/2017 at 6:42 PM, pepshettibone said:

he continues to do it.

How do you know this? 14 months seems about right plus the guy lives in a different country. Do you honestly think he is wealthy enough that it would be worth M's time in pursuing? 

It stopped the major leaks. This whole exercise is a huge deterrant for future potential leakers.