Madonna on Instagram / Facebook / Twitter + other Social Media

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3 hours ago, Would You Like To Try said:

She looks so nice here and young couldn't tell her age really,i hope she gets more styles like this

Are you serious?

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13 minutes ago, rgdlee said:

Are you serious?

Yes why not?I respect others opinions thoughhshe looks literally like a gen z Dita 

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21 hours ago, Edward I Longshanks said:

 I actually agree with some of the things you say but stop acting like you are a teacher educating the rest of use with your longwinded posts, your opinion is just an opinion like everyone else has an opinion. Just because you live in France and got educated by a feminist does not make you special.

Maybe not, but it makes him at least informed and educated.  And just because a post is LONG doesn't make it LONG WINDED, which is a problem that I've run into myself before.  Hear me out...

Most of the issues we're facing right now, be it in this community or in the wider world (ageism, misogyny, racism, trans/homophobia, abortion rights, etc) are complex issues that require detailed and nuanced discussion.  But it's like nobody has the attention span anymore.  People flip shit or pull the TL;DR card for anything longer than a Twitter post, which solves nothing.  TikTok, Twitter, most social media in general give you enough space to scream an opinion with zero context and zero way of backing that statement up, so then the opposing view screams back, and then it's just an Us vs Them situation.  

Is it really that hard to read a post that's shorter than an average newspaper article?  Is our collective attention span so atrophied that we aren't capable of reading something that contains more than 280 letters?  Or is it that we're no longer able to handle something longer than a paragraph unless it has visuals to accompany it?  Real change will continue to remain elusive until and unless we can get past the jump cuts and the tweets and actually educate ourselves and do the work, and it's gonna take longer than 30 seconds or two sentences.

 

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Not sure if anybody has shared or mentioned, but here is Time’s take on Madonna at the Grammys:

Madonna's Face and the Myth of Aging Gracefully

https://time.com/6253977/madonna-face-grammys-2023/

[Blue Jean 9,321]

7 hours ago, androiduser said:

and can somebody please explain the difference between Madonna performing there and Beyonce performing?? Because Beyonce's was a private event concert, and Madonna's was.. what... a statement against misogyny and patriarchy?

It is different in that it was a private event so she was there entirely for a money grab, not her fans. She did not perform any of the lgbt inspired music from her new album.

When Madonna performed there it was a public event and the show included things like the Nobody Knows Me interlude advocating lgbt rights. It was also 11 years ago, a lot has changed in terms of how people view these kinds of choices by artists. Lots of artists in more recent years have been pressured to cancel their shows and not perform there. Beyoncé has only started banging on about supporting the queer community in this era as far as I’m aware. So to many people it does not seem genuine, more of a career move.

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FFS people still on this?

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1 hour ago, momosfantasy said:

 

 

 

Is it really that hard to read a post that's shorter than an average newspaper article?  Is our collective attention span so atrophied that we aren't capable of reading something that contains more than 280 letters? 

 

A post on a forum is hardly the same as a newspaper article. People that write long essays about Madonna on forums are in most cases just rambling.

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1 hour ago, momosfantasy said:

Maybe not, but it makes him at least informed and educated.  And just because a post is LONG doesn't make it LONG WINDED, which is a problem that I've run into myself before.  Hear me out...

Most of the issues we're facing right now, be it in this community or in the wider world (ageism, misogyny, racism, trans/homophobia, abortion rights, etc) are complex issues that require detailed and nuanced discussion.  But it's like nobody has the attention span anymore.  People flip shit or pull the TL;DR card for anything longer than a Twitter post, which solves nothing.  TikTok, Twitter, most social media in general give you enough space to scream an opinion with zero context and zero way of backing that statement up, so then the opposing view screams back, and then it's just an Us vs Them situation.  

Is it really that hard to read a post that's shorter than an average newspaper article?  Is our collective attention span so atrophied that we aren't capable of reading something that contains more than 280 letters?  Or is it that we're no longer able to handle something longer than a paragraph unless it has visuals to accompany it?  Real change will continue to remain elusive until and unless we can get past the jump cuts and the tweets and actually educate ourselves and do the work, and it's gonna take longer than 30 seconds or two sentences.

 

If real change occurs in the world regarding racism, homophobia, sexism or ageism, it wont be because I choose to dismiss or listen to a random post on a site dedicated to a musical artist. In regards to your words on screaming opinions on social media, you are not telling me anything I have not known forever, there is a reason I don't use the cancerous stuff anymore. If I wanted to have a meaningful discussion about these topics, this is the last place I would choose. Forums are full of pretentious, pseudo intellectuals masking themselves as experts on issues like racism, ageism and homophobia when in reality they are simply coughing up the same dumb talking points as mainstream politicians and media.

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55 minutes ago, rgdlee said:

Not sure if anybody has shared or mentioned, but here is Time’s take on Madonna at the Grammys:

Madonna's Face and the Myth of Aging Gracefully

https://time.com/6253977/madonna-face-grammys-2023/

Cringe article. But they make a few interesting points.

”Nobody is heaping praise on more or less normal-looking women such as Madonna’s friend 60-year old friend Rosie O’Donnell for aging gracefully.”

AND

”…people’s reactions to the way older women look are a good gauge of the way people feel about women, older women, that older woman in particular, with some anxiety about their own age and mortality mixed in.”

It is very true to say peoples reaction to Madonna this week is centred a lot around how they feel about Madonna in general. Perhaps the fact she refuses to do what everybody wants her to makes them feel uncomfortable because that is how most people live their lives? By doing what society expects of them?

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19 hours ago, FallingInLove said:

Yes, but then again, most older men don't take pictures of themselves in their underwear, posing in the bathroom, lying on the bed, trying to portrait themselves as young and sexy as possible. I'm not against it! If someone wants to do that... but don't be disapointed if people don't react the way you want them too. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. Simple as that. 

A question I’m asking myself: Is Madonna really trying to portray herself as young? I don’t know about that. I think it’s an assumption to think that what she is showing is a botched simulation of youth. Perhaps it’s just being a woman of 64 evoking personal sexual expression with a lot of artifice that others interpret as attempts at youth. For her, becoming “Madonna” is a form of drag in my eyes. It’s all subjective beyond that. It’s all about the individual response to it.  

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1 hour ago, Blue Jean said:

A post on a forum is hardly the same as a newspaper article. People that write long essays about Madonna on forums are in most cases just rambling.

Sure, some are.  And some are pretty well written and informative.  Your mileage may vary, but there are plenty of people that won't bother to find out either way.  Not to mention, a forum for a favorite artist would seem to lend itself to, you know, essays about that artist.

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2 hours ago, Edward I Longshanks said:

If real change occurs in the world regarding racism, homophobia, sexism or ageism, it wont be because I choose to dismiss or listen to a random post on a site dedicated to a musical artist. In regards to your words on screaming opinions on social media, you are not telling me anything I have not known forever, there is a reason I don't use the cancerous stuff anymore. If I wanted to have a meaningful discussion about these topics, this is the last place I would choose. Forums are full of pretentious, pseudo intellectuals masking themselves as experts on issues like racism, ageism and homophobia when in reality they are simply coughing up the same dumb talking points as mainstream politicians and media.

You're right, you're not going to make real change on your own in a forum.  Neither am I.  At least, not immediately.  But real change occurs over time, with actions by individuals, taking the steps every single day , whether it be in "a random post on a site dedicated to a musical artist" or anywhere else.  It's a cumulative effort on everybody's part, but you have to be willing to put the effort in, whether it's here or anywhere else.

It has to start somewhere, so why not on a forum where ageism and misogyny are right here on the screen?  Hell, I used to have to at least leave the house to see or hear people being judgemental about the ages and looks of others.  And quite frankly, the way your post reads, it doesn't seem like you're terribly invested in the idea of change anyways.

Because it's pretty telling when you call people "pretentious, pseudo intellectuals" for wanting to have discussions about ageism, racism, etc. and suggesting that the only reason people might want to have those discussions is because we're just parroting the media and their "dumb talking points"--which means...what exactly?

 

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1 hour ago, Alibaba said:

A question I’m asking myself: Is Madonna really trying to portray herself as young?

I agree... at least her hair and make-up when attention events like the Grammys suggest something different... she is clearly not trying to make herself look young and pretty in the the eyes of the masses...

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1 hour ago, momosfantasy said:

You're right, you're not going to make real change on your own in a forum.  Neither am I.  At least, not immediately.  But real change occurs over time, with actions by individuals, taking the steps every single day , whether it be in "a random post on a site dedicated to a musical artist" or anywhere else.  It's a cumulative effort on everybody's part, but you have to be willing to put the effort in, whether it's here or anywhere else.

It has to start somewhere, so why not on a forum where ageism and misogyny are right here on the screen?  Hell, I used to have to at least leave the house to see or hear people being judgemental about the ages and looks of others.  And quite frankly, the way your post reads, it doesn't seem like you're terribly invested in the idea of change anyways.

Because it's pretty telling when you call people "pretentious, pseudo intellectuals" for wanting to have discussions about ageism, racism, etc. and suggesting that the only reason people might want to have those discussions is because we're just parroting the media and their "dumb talking points"--which means...what exactly?

 

Go join activism forum or a start a thread yourself on this site if you feel so strongly about the issue. I like Madonna 's music, I would prefer if we stopped bringing so much negativity into this place, people get enough of that on social media. My comment about pseudo intellectuals was not aimed specifically at you. Parroting the media and politicians means a slew of word salad that changes nothing. I have been a fan since the start of her career, I have heard all of it and more, its just noise at this point. Me not wanting to talk about the same topic over and over again does mean I would not love to see positive change. Not all of us are out on political crusades, some of us just like Madonna and her music believe it or not.

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I can't wait for tour rehearsals to start so that we can finally get away from talking about her face all the time

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33 minutes ago, MattyMads said:

I can't wait for tour rehearsals to start so that we can finally get away from talking about her face all the time

I anticipate after opening night the entire world will be discussing her. And the haters will be louder than they have ever been. If this is how they react to a little speech in a coat we can only imagine how they will react to her show. Be prepared.

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14 hours ago, Would You Like To Try said:

I noticed that her new makeup artist needs to be removed from her sight.Who does it?Be cause i have seen her with less makeup and she looks better without that weird makeup

And bring back the brows.

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3 hours ago, rgdlee said:

Not sure if anybody has shared or mentioned, but here is Time’s take on Madonna at the Grammys:

Madonna's Face and the Myth of Aging Gracefully

https://time.com/6253977/madonna-face-grammys-2023/

I'm waiting for BBC to make a documentary, just like they way they did it back in 2012 when she expressed she hates hydrangeas.

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2 hours ago, Blue Jean said:

And the haters will be louder than they have ever been

Especially if she doesn’t perform Causing A Commotion 

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Haters will Fail
I still believe in the goodness of humans
She's old and you must love her 

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Love this art:

By: https://www.instagram.com/luart76/

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6 hours ago, Edward I Longshanks said:

Go join activism forum or a start a thread yourself on this site if you feel so strongly about the issue. I like Madonna 's music, I would prefer if we stopped bringing so much negativity into this place, people get enough of that on social media. My comment about pseudo intellectuals was not aimed specifically at you. Parroting the media and politicians means a slew of word salad that changes nothing. I have been a fan since the start of her career, I have heard all of it and more, its just noise at this point. Me not wanting to talk about the same topic over and over again does mean I would not love to see positive change. Not all of us are out on political crusades, some of us just like Madonna and her music believe it or not.

I DO believe it!  Same thing here.  It's not like I come here to discuss politics. I'd MUCH rather be talking about how Erotica is the best album ever made, of all time!  But when people want to spread toxic beliefs or prejudice (and that's not directed at you, per se), I feel like I should at least address it.  I wouldn't say anything if people would stop making terrible, judgemental comments about this woman that I admire so much.

The thing is, I don't need to join an "activism forum" or seek out people and places to discuss things like ageism or misogyny when it's literally right in front of my face in so many comments on this site.  And that's what activism IS in many ways.  It's recognizing these things as they're actually happening, and speaking out against it.  Silence all too often equals approval, or at the very least complacence, and I absolutely refuse to allow anybody to think that I agree with or condone some of the virulently awful personal comments people make about her or about other board members.  

Remember, the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.  

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5 hours ago, Andymad said:

Especially if she doesn’t perform Causing A Commotion 

Girl, I'd be there with a pitchfork!

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I don't know about you guys but i witnessed a change in the tide today, i saw people, non fans and media influencers, journalists and artists defending her and expressing their disgusted at the vicious way she has been treated and i'm talking about people i don't suspect to be closeted fans at all, the great thing is that they are influencers in culture. I think she's winning, her unapologetic post on Instagram, her defiance and fuck you attitude, some articles in serious press asking to leave her alone... haters gonna hate but they are being shamed now and since i'm talking about culture influencers it may soon be a trend for followers. People say they may not agree with what she does but they admire her defiance. I think it's just the beginning. Girl has made the world focus on her once again and, again, she's shaking the culture and conversation. She's not crying at home, her job is done.

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4 hours ago, Prayer said:

Love this art:

By: https://www.instagram.com/luart76/

Yes, I do like as well.  My take on this whole topic is that the media and some fans are embellishing how bad she looks.  The picture the media is using, including in Pier Morgan's silly show, is altered to make her look worse. And as nasty as some have gotten, at least Madonna once again is creating a discussion (which she's always like doing), only giving her more publicity.