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18 minutes ago, sara94 said:

This era will end soon. Her appearance will change before the tour starts (optimism + wishful thinking)

I can see her keeping this look since she's never done a tour but with Blonde hair, apart to wearing wigs.  I suppose she'll probably wear wigs on this tour as well.  Possibly a few blonde to represent some past looks. 

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23 hours ago, tscott said:

Yes, but you can't dismiss "misogyny" or "ageism" because a lot of what Madonna does and wear is completely acceptable if someone younger is doing or wearing it.  I agree that for some it's personal taste, but that usually is based on one's idea of what someone should be doing at a certain age.  People know she's in her 60's and some people can't fathom seeing someone their Grandma's age doing the same things, or dressing the same way that they are or their children are dressing or acting like. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what anyone thinks, because Madonna will keep doing what she wants and no doubt it will continue to make people feel uncomfortable.  She's done this her whole entire career.  She keeps people talking about her and whether it's good or bad, she still keeps a lot of people interested and buying tickets to her shows. And if she dropped a new album tomorrow, all those "fans" who jump on the band wagon, criticizing her will be snatching it up, only to find fault or dissect it to death, sucking all the joy out of the album.  It's a never ending cycle!

I was referring to M's facial evolution, shall we say, as per the TikTok video, not how she dresses or acts.

The backlash is mostly an issue of taste, extremes, 'going overboard', etc re her visage (all personal, as I said).

If you isolate it, this is not particularly ageist or misogynistic, as M framed it in her latest IG post. That's her deflecting.

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3 hours ago, RebelHeart97 said:

I really need the blonde hair and the brows back ASAP M!!! I’m over the no brows and copper hair. We need the classic M look for the tour.

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Sorry but no. She's had that look for over a decade. It's really refreshing that she's experimenting with looks again. That changing look element has always been a very important part of her success and she stayed in her confort zone for too long in my opinion. The girl didn't dare to dye her hair in any other color than blond for like 15 years ! The fact that she's a chameleon again means that she's back to pushing enveloppes again so i wouldnt encourage her to go back in her safe bubble look wise. Just like on the 80's, 90's and 00's there are some looks that we love and some that we don't but that's part of the game. Let her have fun please !

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On 2/11/2023 at 10:40 AM, diegolcl said:

When people are so grossed out by her appearance that they wish she retire, die, go away, "age gracefully" etc it is ageism and misogyny. Plain and simple.


A lot of people don't like the way Zac Efron looks after his cosmetic surgeries, but they don't wish those things on him.

You're conflating a bunch of opinions there.

Essentially, the general public is responding to what they feel is a distasteful degree of procedures carried out to her face.

The backlash started based on the footage of her introducing Sam and Kim, way before those 'unflattering photos' went viral.

I was watching the show and Twitter live, and it was obvious to many that she looked bloated and unusual when animated.

Such work looks better in a still photo (Facetuned or not) compared to in motion, and this appearance revealed that.

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1 hour ago, Vas said:

I was referring to M's facial evolution, shall we say, as per the TikTok video, not how she dresses or acts.

The backlash is mostly an issue of taste, extremes, 'going overboard', etc re her visage (all personal, as I said).

If you isolate it, this is not particularly ageist or misogynistic, as M framed it her latest IG post. That's her deflecting.

But that's mostly due to filters and photoshop.  Everyone uses them, but oddly Madonna isn't supposed to?  But that's an entirely different discussion.  Her issue was over how her message was lost at the Grammys, and why she was even there was overlooked, over the media concentrating on how she looked, and purposely using the most worst still shot of her when we all know she didn't look that bad.  In some instances, some people distorted the image even more to make her look even worse (Piers Morgan).  But again, all they rather talk about is how awful she looked and question how far she's gone with cosmetic work. This seems to happen all the time with her now.  Meanwhile, I don't see eons of discussions and criticisms on Tom Cruise's cosmetic work.  I don't see multiple entertainment/news shows devoting segments of their shows on how he looks, every time he makes an appearance and so on. 

Also, no one says that men are completely escaping criticism for how they look, but the point is, that's all the media concentrates on with Madonna anymore.  It is totally misogynistic, and I'm not sure why you are trying to downplay that?  It's not just an issue of personal taste, some are just being completely nasty about it which is uncalled for.  And let's not pretend that in most cases than not, women's appearances (especially in the entertainment business) tend to take front row center to anything they do versus to any male who is making appearances. You rarely hear or see the media spending much time on how awful men look.

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1 hour ago, tscott said:

But that's mostly due to filters and photoshop.  Everyone uses them, but oddly Madonna isn't supposed to?  But that's an entirely different discussion.  Her issue was over how her message was lost at the Grammys, and why she was even there was overlooked, over the media concentrating on how she looked, and purposely using the most worst still shot of her when we all know she didn't look that bad.  In some instances, some people distorted the image even more to make her look even worse (Piers Morgan).  But again, all they rather talk about is how awful she looked and question how far she's gone with cosmetic work. This seems to happen all the time with her now.  Meanwhile, I don't see eons of discussions and criticisms on Tom Cruise's cosmetic work.  I don't see multiple entertainment/news shows devoting segments of their shows on how he looks, every time he makes an appearance and so on. 

Also, no one says that men are completely escaping criticism for how they look, but the point is, that's all the media concentrates on with Madonna anymore.  It is totally misogynistic, and I'm not sure why you are trying to downplay that?  It's not just an issue of personal taste, some are just being completely nasty about it which is uncalled for.  And let's not pretend that in most cases than not, women's appearances (especially in the entertainment business) tend to take front row center to anything they do versus to any male who is making appearances. You rarely hear or see the media spending much time on how awful men look.

If Tom has had any work done, the general public's probably not talking about it because it's subtle and 'tasteful'?

I am certain that if peak-bloatedness Zac Efron graced such a stage, Twitter would have gone into overdrive about it too.

The Grammys stage is a big one, and most of the GP don't see M's face moving until she is on their screens in this way.

Simon Cowell recently went viral over his 'botched' face as seen in a low-key promo video, and the comments were nasty.

Anyway, moving on.

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I have just watched Madonna's participation in the 2023 Grammys again and in greater detail (the only part of the ceremony that caught my attention since all the other artists who performed did not interest me in the slightest) and I cannot find any error in her speech. The message she gave was impeccable and she was sure of herself. Although it is true the reaction of the public was quite cold (colder than the public that appeared in the dvd of the Confessions Tour) I think that the Grammy is characterized by being a more discreet ceremony compared to the Mtvs where everything is merriment and uncontrolled emotions. That's why I think that Madonna shouldn't have been too challenging with the public by demanding more emotion and intensity in the applause.

 

By the way, I just have a question: does anyone know who this artist is who appears with a disgusted look on his face after Madonna finishes her speech? I personally don't know him (I only know artists who transcend outside their country and globally) and I was surprised that they focused on someone making that gesture of disinterest and annoyance when the ideal should have been that they would focus on someone clapping with an approving smile on their face. . Only that detail displeased me, but Madonna's participation in the Grammys was, for me, excellent.

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9 minutes ago, chaosmen1984mk said:

 

 

By the way, I just have a question: does anyone know who this artist is who appears with a disgusted look on his face after Madonna finishes her speech?

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That's Nile Rodgers, a legendary producer who produced Like a Virgin. He recently attended M's promo of FIL.

He definitely wasn't disgusted or whatever it is you thought, he's certainly a Madonna supporter. I am also surprised you don't recognize such a music legend? He most certainly "transcends outside of his country and globally", he's one of the biggest best known producers in the history of modern music.

https://www.instagram.com/p/ChIUU95gpKh

 

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20 minutes ago, androiduser said:

That's Nile Rodgers, a legendary producer who produced Like a Virgin. He recently attended M's promo of FIL.

He definitely wasn't disgusted or whatever it is you thought, he's certainly a Madonna supporter. I am also surprised you don't recognize such a music legend? He most certainly "transcends outside of his country and globally", he's one of the biggest best known producers in the history of modern music.

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What a shame!!!!!  is he seriously Nile Rodgers? Although I have heard his name many times thanks to Madonna, I had not seen an image of him. I don't really know the physical appearance of many of her producers, particularly it is a subject that does not interest me too much. Nelle Hooper or Patrick Leonard are other producers that I know who they are but I've never seen a picture of them. What a shame to look ridiculous or ignorant despite considering myself an ultra fan of Madonna but in my defense I believe that as a fan you don't have to know everything and it's always good to learn. But what does continue to call my attention is the strange gesture he makes when he should appear smiling but well there must be some explanation, surely he wanted to go to the bathroom or he felt bad, I don't know, but verifying that he is a friend of Madonna my theory is completely discarded.

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16 minutes ago, chaosmen1984mk said:

What a shame!!!!!  is he seriously Nile Rodgers? Although I have heard his name many times thanks to Madonna, I had not seen an image of him. I don't really know the physical appearance of many of her producers, particularly it is a subject that does not interest me too much. Nelle Hooper or Patrick Leonard are other producers that I know who they are but I've never seen a picture of them. What a shame to look ridiculous or ignorant despite considering myself an ultra fan of Madonna but in my defense I believe that as a fan you don't have to know everything and it's always good to learn. But what does continue to call my attention is the strange gesture he makes when he should appear smiling but well there must be some explanation, surely he wanted to go to the bathroom or he felt bad, I don't know, but verifying that he is a friend of Madonna my theory is completely discarded.

When we get older our cheekbones get harder and worser,so maybe that's why he couldnt smile

My goofy self doesn't know his age but I'm not sure if someone who collaborated with Madonna in 1980 can be considered young

 

 

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1 hour ago, chaosmen1984mk said:

What a shame!!!!!  is he seriously Nile Rodgers? Although I have heard his name many times thanks to Madonna, I had not seen an image of him. I don't really know the physical appearance of many of her producers, particularly it is a subject that does not interest me too much. Nelle Hooper or Patrick Leonard are other producers that I know who they are but I've never seen a picture of them. What a shame to look ridiculous or ignorant despite considering myself an ultra fan of Madonna but in my defense I believe that as a fan you don't have to know everything and it's always good to learn. But what does continue to call my attention is the strange gesture he makes when he should appear smiling but well there must be some explanation, surely he wanted to go to the bathroom or he felt bad, I don't know, but verifying that he is a friend of Madonna my theory is completely discarded.

Ok, are you being serious?  This is Nile Rodgers.  The man who produced the Like A Virgin album.  He's iconic; long before he worked with Madonna.  Not only has he crafted a many 70's iconic hits, he is also credited to producing David Bowie and Duran Duran 80's Iconic albums.   He was not being disrespectful of Madonna in anyway.  He's always spoken highly of Madonna and credited her to being very hands on when producing the LAV album.  You're reading far too much into the expression captured here.  Niles loves Madonna.  The two are cool!  The two recently were together earlier this summer. You shouldn't assume malicious intent based on a snap shot. This expression has nothing to do with Madonna, I guarantee you that.

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1 hour ago, tscott said:

Ok, are you being serious?  This is Nile Rodgers.  The man who produced the Like A Virgin album.  He's iconic; long before he worked with Madonna.  Not only has he crafted a many 70's iconic hits, he is also credited to producing David Bowie and Duran Duran 80's Iconic albums.   He was not being disrespectful of Madonna in anyway.  He's always spoken highly of Madonna and credited her to being very hands on when producing the LAV album.  You're reading far too much into the expression captured here.  Niles loves Madonna.  The two are cool!  The two recently were together earlier this summer. You shouldn't assume malicious intent based on a snap shot. This expression has nothing to do with Madonna, I guarantee you that.

Believe me I didn't know. I mean I knew him only by name but not by his physical appearance. Thanks to the clarification from a fellow forum member, now I know who Nile Rodgers is physically and that gesture he makes at the Grammys definitely has nothing to do with Madonna. I will definitely have to google all of Madonna's producers to find out what they look like physically and not screw up with my questions again in the future.

By the way, I remember that something similar also happened when Madonna gave an award to Camila Cabello at the MTVs and that is that while Camila paid homage to Madonna they focused on the public and all the artists appeared smiling except two women whose gestures denoted boredom and disapproval. I would like to put that image but... what if those two women turn out to be Madonna's best friends? No, I better leave the subject there because I am afraid of making a fool of myself again due to my ignorance.

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2 hours ago, chaosmen1984mk said:

Believe me I didn't know. I mean I knew him only by name but not by his physical appearance. Thanks to the clarification from a fellow forum member, now I know who Nile Rodgers is physically and that gesture he makes at the Grammys definitely has nothing to do with Madonna. I will definitely have to google all of Madonna's producers to find out what they look like physically and not screw up with my questions again in the future.

By the way, I remember that something similar also happened when Madonna gave an award to Camila Cabello at the MTVs and that is that while Camila paid homage to Madonna they focused on the public and all the artists appeared smiling except two women whose gestures denoted boredom and disapproval. I would like to put that image but... what if those two women turn out to be Madonna's best friends? No, I better leave the subject there because I am afraid of making a fool of myself again due to my ignorance.

Don’t stress over it darl. Nile Rogers is a music legend , yes, but he is not that well known these days.
 

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