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4 minutes ago, RinoTheBouncer said:

Something To Remember II album with ballads that came after the original and some new ballads. She needs to capitalize on those. Her ballads are so great, so well-written and produced and so underrated and under promoted. Madonna is known for dance music, yes but that doesn’t mean that’s the only thing that she’s all about. Either that, or create an original new album of ballads complete with evening dresses and classy looks. Something that is the exact opposite of the image of bustiers, fishnets, crucifixes and sexual connotations that she’s been putting at the forefront of everything in almost all her works. Something original, new and unexpected.

I love the idea of a full album of new ballads, or perhaps a mature type of album with a lot of big ballads. If she works with some good co-writers and producers then she could have some really beautiful ballads. Pat Leonard springs to mind for something like that, or perhaps Walter Afanasieff, if he’s still going? 

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3 minutes ago, Nobody Knows Me said:

I love the idea of a full album of new ballads, or perhaps a mature type of album with a lot of big ballads. If she works with some good co-writers and producers then she could have some really beautiful ballads. Pat Leonard springs to mind for something like that, or perhaps Walter Afanasieff, if he’s still going? 

Not sure if he’s still going, but I feel like she could do a wonderful job with ballads. Like every single album she’s made had some really outstanding ballads yet they either never get performed live or never become singles or don’t get music videos or all of the above.

I think this would get her a lot more recognition than another collaboration with a younger artist, model or rapper, regardless of the context of the song. She was praised for Madame X Tour for presenting a different image and one that is relatively classier and more upclose and raw. So a ballads album can work too. 

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9 minutes ago, RinoTheBouncer said:

Not sure if he’s still going, but I feel like she could do a wonderful job with ballads. Like every single album she’s made had some really outstanding ballads yet they either never get performed live or never become singles or don’t get music videos or all of the above.

I think this would get her a lot more recognition than another collaboration with a younger artist, model or rapper, regardless of the context of the song. She was praised for Madame X Tour for presenting a different image and one that is relatively classier and more upclose and raw. So a ballads album can work too. 

I agree. She’s had some really fantastic ballads, and Madame X proved that she still has them with Looking For Mercy. 
An album of ballads with perhaps a sort of Golden Age Hollywood look would be a dream. 
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I don't know, I have a weird feeling she won't just disappear. This has been such a weird era for her.

Realistically, expecting a lot of updates about her injury. And then her back in the gym / dancing to show she's much better. And a higher intensity tour than whatever was the Madame X Tour. 

She has a need to prove herself with everyone and everything. There's no way she's going to let herself just fade. 

I also wonder if she is going to do something about the butt. It seriously looks not only HORRIBLE but uncomfortable. It looks like it would hurt her back (I'm not being sarcastic). I look at the pictures of her on this door, and it almost looks like she has a hunchback sometimes.

I had a thought earlier...I think the reason we get so defensive about Madonna nowadays and wanting her to prove herself is because she once represented agelessness for us. And it's sad and slightly scary for us to see our idol get older. Because if she's terminal and fallible, it means we are, too. So, seeing her fight against age so hard is almost like salt in the wound for us, because if she can't bear it, how will we? I don't know. I always thought she'd be a bit of a pioneer in the age department and rock some sleek music era hairstyle except platinum gray or something haha. 

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4 hours ago, techno101 said:

And a higher intensity tour than whatever was the Madame X Tour. 

She’s not going to to do another high intensity tour. Like you said yourself, she’s getting older, and I think it’s unfair to ask her of that. This tour has showed us that touring is sadly getting more strenuous for her, which is only natural, so if by high intensity you mean dancing like the Sticky & Sweet Tour or The MDNA Tour, it’s not going to happen. She can put on a fantastic show without it being that intense. 

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25 minutes ago, o_g_c_x said:

Forget about stadiums and arenas, she wont come back to that. I think if she tours again in 5- 6 years she will do limited dates with higher prices like Streisand

A nightmare for fans, but this honestly wouldn’t be a bad idea. 

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She’s primarily a financial beast. She wasn’t as worried about her record sales decline and new record deal in 2008 because the landscape was changing rapidly. Music sales were in decline in general and tour receipts were at an all time high for her. She’s in a difficult position now in business terms because her record sales have fallen through the floor. Her streaming numbers are generally improving but they are not comparative to the streaming era artists and her tour receipts are not bringing in the money as they used too. She’s almost damaged that part of her brand with the Late starts and injuries (not her fault).

So what to do? A greatest hits really is the only way to reaffirm her position as the number one female artist. It’s been a decade since Celebration and streaming was NOT the platform it was then now. She secretly needs to reach out to a new generation of music listeners. I don’t mean by producing kids music like ME! I mean by carefully crafting and producing a balls to the wall Greatest Hits era that makes younger streamers recognise her as the groundbreaking talent she is. 
Janet Jackson has had one album in ten years but her industry and public status is seemingly as an all time high. She is respected by an entire new generation of music lovers who recognise her cultural importance. I feel like Madonna is a little bit forgotten in this equation, especially in the current climate, when she was essentially the curator of this movement. 
 

We know she doesn’t like to trade on past glories but from a business and public good will perspective I think it would be prudent and timely, with the album and tour anniversaries to follow in succession afterwards. You need the public back on board to make these units shift. 

Nov 2020: A comprehensive greatest hits era to increase her streaming presence and recalibrate her public persona. 

Jan 2021: year long programme of a new Madonna back catalogue singles being added to streaming platforms. One a week for a year. (There’s enough). To further increase streaming presence. 

Aug 2021: Ltd greatest hits stadium world tour. 

Dec 2021: Greatest Hits Live CD / Blu Ray / Streaming

March 2022: Commence Programme of anniversary editions.

2023: New album with a general public focus. “Hits hits hits” should be the objective. Pure commercialism. We are on the being of another pop revolution in the coming year or so with the sounds of trap and RNB starting to reach saturation and exhaustion. What better time for the queen of pop to retake the reigns. 

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6 minutes ago, steady75 said:

Nov 2020: A comprehensive greatest hits era to increase her streaming presence and recalibrate her public persona. 

Jan 2021: year long programme of a new Madonna back catalogue singles being added to streaming platforms. One a week for a year. (There’s enough). To further increase streaming presence. 

Aug 2021: Ltd greatest hits stadium world tour. 

Dec 2021: Greatest Hits Live CD / Blu Ray / Streaming

March 2022: Commence Programme of anniversary editions.

2023: New album with a general public focus. “Hits hits hits” should be the objective. Pure commercialism. We are on the being of another pop revolution in the coming year or so with the sounds of trap and RNB starting to reach saturation and exhaustion. What better time for the queen of pop to retake the reigns. 

Love all of this, and I would love to see it happen! 

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20 minutes ago, steady75 said:

She’s primarily a financial beast. She wasn’t as worried about her record sales decline and new record deal in 2008 because the landscape was changing rapidly. Music sales were in decline in general and tour receipts were at an all time high for her. She’s in a difficult position now in business terms because her record sales have fallen through the floor. Her streaming numbers are generally improving but they are not comparative to the streaming era artists and get your receipts are not bringing in the money as they used too. She’s almost damaged that part of her brand with the Late starts and injuries (not her fault).

So what to do? A greatest hits really is the only way to reaffirm her position as the number one female artist. It’s been a decade since Celebration and streaming was NOT the platform it was then now. She secretly needs to reach out to a new generation of music listeners. I don’t mean by producing kids music like ME! I mean by carefully crafting and producing a balls to the wall Greatest Hits era that makes younger streamers recognise her as the groundbreaking talent she is. 
Janet Jackson has had one album in ten years but her industry and public status is seemingly as an all time high. She is respected by an entire new generation of music lovers who recognise her cultural importance. I feel like Madonna is a little bit forgotten in this equation, especially in the current climate, when she was essentially the curator of this movement. 
 

We know she doesn’t like to trade on past glories but from a business and public good will perspective I think it would be prudent and timely, with the album and tour anniversaries to follow in succession afterwards. You need the public back on board to make these units shift. 

Nov 2020: A comprehensive greatest hits era to increase her streaming presence and recalibrate her public persona. 

Jan 2021: year long programme of a new Madonna back catalogue singles being added to streaming platforms. One a week for a year. (There’s enough). To further increase streaming presence. 

Aug 2021: Ltd greatest hits stadium world tour. 

Dec 2021: Greatest Hits Live CD / Blu Ray / Streaming

March 2022: Commence Programme of anniversary editions.

2023: New album with a general public focus. “Hits hits hits” should be the objective. Pure commercialism. We are on the being of another pop revolution in the coming year or so with the sounds of trap and RNB starting to reach saturation and exhaustion. What better time for the queen of pop to retake the reigns. 

This! Excellent ideas! 

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7 minutes ago, AceOfMadonna said:

I would love to have a greatest hits album next, but with all the hits newly arranged and done in an acoustic style. And then she could do another theatre tour performing these songs very intimate and relaxed. So she could recover and yet being on stage. 

I’d love to hear some acoustic renditions of her greatest hits. I always find her acoustic numbers really emotional and moving. 

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On 2/28/2020 at 5:32 AM, Nobody Knows Me said:

I love the idea of a full album of new ballads, or perhaps a mature type of album with a lot of big ballads. If she works with some good co-writers and producers then she could have some really beautiful ballads. Pat Leonard springs to mind for something like that, or perhaps Walter Afanasieff, if he’s still going? 

So you want Madonna to turn into Streisand? Why not just listen to Streisand? 

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She'll no doubt be penning her autobiography soon and be hoping to get a biopic up and running like Elton and Queen - both reminding the public of who and what she is/was. She always does this every so often when she's in a career slump. People really want Patrick Leonard back. I'd love to see him writing with her along with a new producer. Unlike previous decades, Madonna seems to be okay with a lag between each album. She used to do a new album every two years or so. The break in between albums has gotten longer and longer. Thank god a 360 deal doesn't exist anymore.

She is suited for a Vegas residency, but I think her pride would get in the way. She still truly thinks it's for has-beens, when it fact it's not, at least not anymore. 

I could also see her trying to do another musical film and returning to Warner Bros with a shorter album contract. 

Who knows, perhaps marriage #3 is on the horizon...

80s - married to Sean Penn

90s - goes nuts with tons of boytoys and rebels

00s - married to Guy Ritchie

10s - goes nuts with tons of boytoys and rebels

20s - married to ???

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23 hours ago, AceOfMadonna said:

I would love to have a greatest hits album next, but with all the hits newly arranged and done in an acoustic style. And then she could do another theatre tour performing these songs very intimate and relaxed. So she could recover and yet being on stage. 

I'm sorry, but acoustic Madonna is the last thing the public wants to hear. :laughing:  

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On 2/29/2020 at 7:00 AM, Nobody Knows Me said:

A nightmare for fans, but this honestly wouldn’t be a bad idea. 

They had trouble selling out this theater tour. They're literally still selling them the day of. They are definitely fudging her attendance numbers too, which rely on the honor system. She went smaller because she can't sell out stadiums and arenas anymore. Live Nation put the breaks on the Rebel Heart Tour in terms of money and moving her sets because they weren't seeing the numbers they expected to see. No way she'll ever get to demand prices like Streisand unless she does a Greatest Hits tour. 

Not for anything, she also needs a total image makeover. That hairstyle she's been sporting for 20 years now has got to go.

For her to really sell out a tour, she would need to wait 5-6 and make the public really want to see her again. A Madonna tour is just expected now and no big deal. People figure they can always catch the next one. The reason why Drowned World Tour was such a big deal was because she hadn't done a tour since 1993, and even that one was done on a smaller scale with only so many dates and certain venues. 

And with what she's putting her body through now, she may not even be able to do shows, or at least the type of shows the public expects. She should have cancelled this current tour and given her body a break. Now she's putting more and more stress on her 62 year old frame and limbs and in between she's dancing on the beach and toying around. She's not 30 or even 40 anymore. It's going to take her longer to heal. She may be left with permanent damage at this point. I don't believe for a moment that her doctors haven't told her the same thing and she just won't hear of it She really needs to take better care of herself.

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1 hour ago, cabbageboy said:

So you want Madonna to turn into Streisand? Why not just listen to Streisand? 

No, not at all. I just love her ballads and the Something to Remember album a lot so I’d just like more fantastic ballads. I don’t think Streisand invented that.

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41 minutes ago, Nobody Knows Me said:

No, not at all. I just love her ballads and the Something to Remember album a lot so I’d just like more fantastic ballads. I don’t think Streisand invented that.

An album of only ballads only 80s writers which is what you suggested is a very Streisand -esque thing to do though :)

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I’d love another You Can Dance GH album. Revisiting past singles and having them given a modern touch by the best possible people. Stuart? You around? A compilation of reinvented singles and maybe one or two new recording hits to promote another tour?

Look, I couldn’t connect with Madame X. At all. Not my era not my cup of tea... I didn’t have that exciting anxiety hearing recordings from any shows... just a complete disconnect. I haven’t really played the album or listened to the songs in... since I bought it day 1.  And I’m ok with that. People grow, she’s growing. I would LOVE more pop dance Madonna. But she loves to go so many different routes - I only hope whatever she does, she does it well and loves it.

Ultimately, with this current situation she’s in... I don’t see her touring for AT LEAST another 2/3 years. But while she’s resting... that bitch can be mighty productive providing she’s around the right people. So we’ll see

 

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14 minutes ago, Andymad said:

I’d love another You Can Dance GH album. Revisiting past singles and having them given a modern touch by the best possible people. Stuart? You around? A compilation of reinvented singles and maybe one or two new recording hits to promote another tour?

yes!!!!!!

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