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3 hours ago, ShantiAshtangi said:

[...] There was a ten-year period where she herself was all about her music and her song-writing. [...] And since then it seems she needs to perform like a maniac and prove people she's still capable of carrying a two hour circe du soleil on her shoulders. [...] Since COADF, she just hasn't evolved. Neither musically nor artistically. Madame X was the first time where it seemed she actually tried to do something new. [...] What we got was Madonna with an eye patch constantly repeating her Martha Graham-story (that was more a fairy tale than a story) [...] and [...] a very mixed bag of songs [...].

Sad to say, this is so spot on. I do think the divorce/ageing/the adoption dramas/Rocco drama must have taken a toll on her. It shows in her artistic output.

I might be dreaming but I wish she came up with a short album of proper hit pop songs that could be on par with her classic hits, with properly budgeted visuals, and brakes on her social media output, a new Liz Rosenberg. (And no kids/dancers/uninspired managers acting as A&R wannabes!)

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5 hours ago, TonyMontana said:

Absolutely spot on and very, very true. Now when i start talking about M with people (non fans) they immediately talk about her strange plastic face and how ridiculous she looks. And no, those people are not agist because when you mention Jane Fonda or other over 60's female celebrity who didn't abused plastuc procedures those same people are like "What a beautiful woman, she ages really well". I mean, seriously, none sane minded person can think this is right, it' s pure bad taste and trashy, there is nothing classy in those huge pornstar over bloated lips, that over filled face it looks like she has a fat mask over her real face, her eyes (which used to be huge) are now so tight and tiny she looks asian (and not in a good way), and i'm not even talking about the ridiculous Donal Duck fake ass... how could the most classy and intelligent female entertainer became such a plastic joke... i love her to the moon and back, but her platsic procedures are going way over board and she clearly starts to looks like Pete Burns. I mean the woman had a stunning face structure 

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And no way she would have been horrible at 60yo. With just a few subtles touch up here and there she would have look absolutely gorgeous. Instead she ruined her physical to end up looking like that :  

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Absolutely true and realistic. 

Now i will say it once and for good, like i've never said it before and no matter how much backlash i get for it :

if she doesn't stop all her non sense circus including : ridiculous plastic procedures (face, ass etc...), grills on a white 63 woman, dating publicly barely legal boys at 63 (yes i said it) she is finished. Simple as that. At that point, she damaged her grand public perception so much that i think the music don't even comes first anymore. To me she clearly lost her mind. Even her son, for God sake, her own son didn't want to live with her anymore. That says a lot. How many child around you do you know who chose to live with their father instead of their mother? Only those who's mother has serious issues. Do you put yourself in those kids shoes for a minute ? And you have a new step father every 3 years which is younger and younger everytime that the next one is almost your age. You can have the most luxious house of the world and as much money as you want that must be very disturbing. If my mother had acted that way when i was a teen for sure i would have left the house and started going the wrong way. 

Enough with seeing her as "Intouchable" juste because she is the woman i have all the records since i'm a child and she has made the soundtrack of my life. 

now start to attack me i am ready !

 

 

Ok. I'll take the bait. 

Madonna is NOT going to be "finished" because of anything you stated. 

Making up stories about why YOU THINK Rocco doesn't live with her is a bit much.

The kids DO NOT have a new "step father" every 3 years. Madonna is dating. Madonna is allowed to date. Women are allowed to date one person, multiple people, or whatever they choose to do. A 62 year old woman can date anyone she wants to. 

Madonna has alot of people in her house and around her at all times. For all her kids know in the beginning of a relationship, he's just another dancer hanging around. She's not bringing home a new guy every week, telling her kids to call him "father".  AND She's been dating Ahlamalik for well over a year. And he's 26. NOT BARELY LEGAL. Your ideas of how a woman is supposed to act are cringey. There's not one way a family works. 

and last... her appearance...

 

First off, the first picture you posted is PHOTOSHOPPED! 

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2nd... You only want to post pictures that feed your narrative. Are you trying to tell me she NEVER looks good?!?! I think your idea of Beauty is so narrow that there is hardly room for experimentation or , heaven forbid, wearing no makeup!!!

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Thank god Madonna doesn't have such a narrow view of what beauty is, otherwise we would have never have gotten moments like these:

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Stop being so damn closed minded. 

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12 minutes ago, RUADJAI said:

 

 

Ok. I'll take the bait. 

Madonna is NOT going to be "finished" because of anything you stated. 

Making up stories about why YOU THINK Rocco doesn't live with her is a bit much.

The kids DO NOT have a new "step father" every 3 years. Madonna is dating. Madonna is allowed to date. Women are allowed to date one person, multiple people, or whatever they choose to do. A 62 year old woman can date anyone she wants to. 

Madonna has alot of people in her house and around her at all times. For all her kids know in the beginning of a relationship, he's just another dancer hanging around. She's not bringing home a new guy every week, telling her kids to call him "father".  AND She's been dating Ahlamalik for well over a year. And he's 26. NOT BARELY LEGAL. Your ideas of how a woman is supposed to act are cringey. There's not one way a family works. 

and last... her appearance...

 

First off, the first picture you posted is PHOTOSHOPPED! 

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2nd... You only want to post pictures that feed your narrative. Are you trying to tell me she NEVER looks good?!?! I think your idea of Beauty is so narrow that there is hardly room for experimentation or , heaven forbid, wearing no makeup!!!

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Thank god Madonna doesn't have such a narrow view of what beauty is, otherwise we would have never have gotten moments like these:

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Stop being so damn closed minded. 

It's because of people talking like that around her that she is now seen as a fool by 90% of the planet. To love someone is not always saying "Yes you are right and no you can do no wrong", to love someone is being able to say to that person "No, that's not okay, you're better than this". Don't you think there is a problem when half her fanbase is now saying she looks and acts like a fool ?!? Now concerning the boyfriends excuse me but Jesus was living with her and her kids for two years, then it was Brahim who also lived with her and her kids for 4 years, now it's Malik for one year and he also living with her and the kids. And you don't think in the little mind of a kid it's not disturbing ?! Come on, please, this is common sense...

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5 minutes ago, TonyMontana said:

It's because of people talking like that around her that she is now seen as a fool by 90% of the planet. To love someone is not always saying "Yes you are right and no you can do no wrong", to love someone is being able to say to that person "No, that's not okay, you're better than this". Don't you think there is a problem when half her fanbase is now saying she looks and acts like a fool ?!? Now concerning the boyfriends excuse me but Jesus was living with her and her kids for two years, then it was Brahim who also lived with her and her kids for 4 years, now it's Malik for one year and he also living with her and the kids. And you don't think in the little mind of a kid it's not disturbing ?! Come on, please, this is common sense...

How do you know they are living with her?!?!? You just be saying stuff you have no idea about. 

Is this her house?!?!

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2 minutes ago, TonyMontana said:

It's because of people talking like that around her that she is now seen as a fool by 90% of the planet. To love someone is not always saying "Yes you are right and no you can do no wrong", to love someone is being able to say to that person "No, that's not okay, you're better than this". Don't you think there is a problem when half her fanbase is now saying she looks and acts like a fool ?!? Now concerning the boyfriends excuse me but Jesus was living with her and her kids for two years, then it was Brahim who also lived with her and her kids for 4 years, now it's Malik for one year and he also living with her and the kids. And you don't think in the little mind of a kid it's not disturbing ?! Come on, please, this is common sense...

I know what you’re saying but sharing photo shopped images of her to fit your narrative was unnecessary. And her private life isn’t any of our business whether we think her actions are right or wrong.

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Just now, RUADJAI said:

How do you know they are living with her?!?!? You just be saying stuff you have no idea about. 

Oh please... this is pure bad faith. Since she was with Brahim and Malik we have seen almost daily videos and pictures of them all together with the kids on every day life events at home, outside, on holidays, everywhere, doing everything of normal life together. Wait,  Next you will tell me her kids never met none of her last three boyfriends ?

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2 minutes ago, TonyMontana said:

Oh please... this is pure bad faith. Since she was with Brahim and Malik we have seen almost daily videos and pictures of them all together with the kids on every day life events at home, outside, on holidays, everywhere, doing everything of normal life together. Wait,  Next you will tell me her kids never met none of her last three boyfriends ?

You see what she wants you to see. Ashley Olsen Reaction GIF by Filmeditor

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7 minutes ago, RUADJAI said:

How do you know they are living with her?!?!? You just be saying stuff you have no idea about. 

Is this her house?!?!

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He was in Paris, he was in London, he was in NY, he was in the Hamptons, he was in Jamaica, he was in LA, and back in the Hamptons. All with M and the kids.

Don't forget that he's working on his own album, so he travels and goes to different studios (peoples homes) for that.

From history alone, Madonna goes all in with these boy toys. They are essentially live-in lovers lol.

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9 minutes ago, NowRadiate said:

Oh my, I agree with the unfortunate tweaking of her looks and poor social representation but I don’t agree with the conservative and what seem to be misogynist views of what a woman at 63 should be like or do.
But let’s agree to respectfully disagree @TonyMontana

If it's being conservative and mysogynist to believe bringing 3 differents stepfathers to your kids in the space of ten years and make them live with them then yeah, i'm happily conservative, mysoginist and every other names your want. Weren't you a kid and a teen in your life ? Do you really believe Rocco left her to live with her father for happy reasons when she was crying on stage saying that her son refuse to talk with her ?!? Being a fan will never make me blind, never. 

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21 minutes ago, TonyMontana said:

If it's being conservative and mysogynist to believe bringing 3 differents stepfathers to your kids in the space of ten years and make them live with them then yeah, i'm happily conservative, mysoginist and every other names your want. Weren't you a kid and a teen in your life ? Do you really believe Rocco left her to live with her father for happy reasons when she was crying on stage saying that her son refuse to talk with her ?!? Being a fan will never make me blind, never. 

If only we could all be so smart. 

Her kids are also subjected to alot of stuff that normal kids aren't subjected to because she a celebrity too... would you run away and do bad stuff because of that too???

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1 hour ago, TonyMontana said:

If it's being conservative and mysogynist to believe bringing 3 differents stepfathers to your kids in the space of ten years and make them live with them then yeah, i'm happily conservative, mysoginist and every other names your want. Weren't you a kid and a teen in your life ? Do you really believe Rocco left her to live with her father for happy reasons when she was crying on stage saying that her son refuse to talk with her ?!? Being a fan will never make me blind, never. 

To quote you from another discussion: How can you “know” all of this, isn’t all of this your subjective emotional and judgemental view with no “real” facts, most information deriving from tabloids?
How the tables have turned. But no hard feelings, bless you.
I think you might be projecting your own views.
I really was not calling you names. 

I do think it is conservative to expect a divorced woman of a certain age to stick to a lover (or even go back to an ex?) just not to disturb the children. You cannot “know” what Rocco feels unless you talk to him personally. Maybe the problem was something else. Who knows. I do think it’s mysogynistic and ageist to condemn her for her personal choices regarding what may be “proper behavior” in your world for a woman 63 years of age. 
Not judging you but asking: Could it be you have an unnecessarily extreme standpoint? Put yourself in her place, if you can. Would you do everything right? 
She’s human, you know.

Wasn’ this thread about the new album rumor? Is it about her love life now, in the fear it may overshadow a new music project? I think they could start changing business and marketing -related things first. I do not think that she would take fans’ family/dating-related advice on how to improve her reputation as a public figure, nor should she (although personally I also dislike how Ahlamalik comes across). I am sure it’s other‘s people place to try that, not ours. We are strangers to M.

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53 minutes ago, RUADJAI said:

Maybe we should ask Tony if a woman of your age should be making pies, and how it’s gonna affect your children. ?

Babe after only 8 meat pies I can’t feel my back. I’ve been standing since 10AM and I’m this sore AM I OKAY. I’m so glad I’ll be able to handle being on my feet when I go back to work ? SOS

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2 hours ago, RUADJAI said:

 

 

Ok. I'll take the bait. 

Madonna is NOT going to be "finished" because of anything you stated. 

Making up stories about why YOU THINK Rocco doesn't live with her is a bit much.

The kids DO NOT have a new "step father" every 3 years. Madonna is dating. Madonna is allowed to date. Women are allowed to date one person, multiple people, or whatever they choose to do. A 62 year old woman can date anyone she wants to. 

Madonna has alot of people in her house and around her at all times. For all her kids know in the beginning of a relationship, he's just another dancer hanging around. She's not bringing home a new guy every week, telling her kids to call him "father".  AND She's been dating Ahlamalik for well over a year. And he's 26. NOT BARELY LEGAL. Your ideas of how a woman is supposed to act are cringey. There's not one way a family works. 

and last... her appearance...

 

First off, the first picture you posted is PHOTOSHOPPED! 

madonna-reads-and-signs-copies-of-her-ne

 

 

2nd... You only want to post pictures that feed your narrative. Are you trying to tell me she NEVER looks good?!?! I think your idea of Beauty is so narrow that there is hardly room for experimentation or , heaven forbid, wearing no makeup!!!

Madonna-New-Haircut.jpg

madonna-61.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&w=10

 

Thank god Madonna doesn't have such a narrow view of what beauty is, otherwise we would have never have gotten moments like these:

Madonna-X-Static-Process-Photoshoot-mado

c831a07a9aed5436974e6abe816317fb.jpg

EID6RazXkAA6O9c.jpg

 

Stop being so damn closed minded. 

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