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On 8/27/2022 at 10:58 PM, wtg1987 said:

I would have preferred a memoir rather than a movie - something I can read and go back to - I just don’t think she’s good enough to direct this movie sorry 😞 

A memoir would also be a MASSIVE hit. It’s an absolute guaranteed best seller………this movie however is a guaranteed FLOP

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21 hours ago, TonyMontana said:

The new Marylin movie which is about to be released is 2 hours 46 minutes long. I hope the M biopic is as long. I really hope tye biopic happens cause this is gonna be so interesting ro know what happened behind the curtains during all those years. We will probably learn things we had no clue about, and no one but M herself knows those things.

The Elvis movie was 2 hours 40 mins long.

If you've checked it out, you'll see how hard it is to fit a whole life story into that amount of time.

She ought to just cut the story off at some stage and not have it cover her whole life.

Or make it a limited series and be properly indulgent about it.

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The script doesn't necessarily need to go in sequence. For example, if the story is being told from a modern day standing point, it could zone in on certain episodes of her career via anecdotes/flashbacks as befit the narrative. A chronological biopic could run out of time by 1985 if you're to fit in all of the Lower East Side stuff from the 70s and early 80s. 

I'd actually really love a movie based on just that period of her life, exploring her relationships with family members, Dan Gilroy, Keith Haring, Basquiat and the hustle to get a record deal. Basically, I'd love a movie of pre-Madonna. Something like Downtown '81.

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3 hours ago, Bjonkers said:

The script doesn't necessarily need to go in sequence. For example, if the story is being told from a modern day standing point, it could zone in on certain episodes of her career via anecdotes/flashbacks as befit the narrative. 

 

I absolutely hate it. I'm 100% old school when it comes to movies. Tell me the story in the real life order. 

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1 minute ago, TonyMontana said:

I absolutely hate it. I'm 100% old school when it comes to movies. Tell me the story in the real life order. 

Maybe! I think that device would help cover the most ground like if its "modern" Madonna being interviewed and she goes into specific eras. I am SO excited to see Julia in the Erotica era!

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On 9/2/2022 at 9:34 AM, musicinferno said:

If this gets scrapped, I'll be irritated that the last 2.5 years were wasted when we could have had a new album and/or reissues rolled out sooner. 

Madonna works very slowly these days and eventually Universal is gonna lose interest or replace her if she keeps dragging her feet. Lately she has shown much more interest in music while the script is still stuck in development hell. They won't wait till 2024 to finally start filming. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if Julia left the project already (assuming she truly was offered the role) because she can't wait around and is taking on other roles while she's in her prime. 

You have to remember that we were in lockdown over a pandemic. Madonna was no doubt bored. She wasn’t going to record an album not knowing if she could promote it. She had just released one in 2019. Time wasn’t wasted. There was nothing else she could do. The reissue thing came later. That was going to take time regardless. They have to go through archives, get clearances, then remaster everything, decide on packaging and promotion, etc. They also wanted it to be tied in with Madonna’s 1982 anniversary. Back to the film -  I doubt Julia is going to end up doing this thing. It would be career suicide and she’s in demand for other things. The boot camp thing is also already known to be bs concocted by Madonna’s team fed to the media. This film was no where near ready. 

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7 hours ago, drivebitch said:

You have to remember that we were in lockdown over a pandemic. Madonna was no doubt bored. She wasn’t going to record an album not knowing if she could promote it. She had just released one in 2019. Time wasn’t wasted. There was nothing else she could do. The reissue thing came later. That was going to take time regardless. They have to go through archives, get clearances, then remaster everything, decide on packaging and promotion, etc. They also wanted it to be tied in with Madonna’s 1982 anniversary. Back to the film -  I doubt Julia is going to end up doing this thing. It would be career suicide and she’s in demand for other things. The boot camp thing is also already known to be bs concocted by Madonna’s team fed to the media. This film was no where near ready. 

Also M has started on loads of projects that never got off the ground like the Luc Besson movie or the one where she plays a violin teacher - didn’t she learn violin for months?! The only difference now is that she shares everything on social media as she’s doing it (which I’m not really a fan of as it drags everything out)

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my main concern with Madonna directing is

a) that she might not have the unbiased view necessary to decide what's important for the movie and what does not really work... while some events are an important part of her life, they might not translate well to film and might not be equally important/relevant for the plot of the movie

b) that she will try to imitate the style of some directors she admires and then get tangled up in the storyline and visuals. For example, with W.E., she followed the structure of Julie & Julia (a story in the past intertwined with the story in the present, and in the case of W.E. the modern story was completely unnecessary) and she was mixing more contemporary music into a period piece, something that Tarantino and Guy Ritchie do successfully.

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1 hour ago, androiduser said:

my main concern with Madonna directing is

a) that she might not have the unbiased view necessary to decide what's important for the movie and what does not really work... while some events are an important part of her life, they might not translate well to film and might not be equally important/relevant for the plot of the movie

b) that she will try to imitate the style of some directors she admires and then get tangled up in the storyline and visuals. For example, with W.E., she followed the structure of Julie & Julia (a story in the past intertwined with the story in the present, and in the case of W.E. the modern story was completely unnecessary) and she was mixing more contemporary music into a period piece, something that Tarantino and Guy Ritchie do successfully.

1) everyone is biased. This thread is proof enough that even without the film being shot or even the premise of the script that it's being shit on

2)every director will reference and in fact when you mention contemporary music (wasnt it only one song by the sex pistols?) being something Tarantino or Guy do successfully (btw Guy has had alot of flops so I definitely would not put him in the league with Tarantino and a flop himself until he got Disney bagged), it was actually inspired by female director Sofia Coppola and her film Marie Antoinette where that was a big part of that particular film.

Will it be a perfect film? Absolutely not but what film is? Truth or Dare was hardly perfect and this obsession with her not being biased is so stupid and asinine. It's almost as if it won't be a good film until she bluntly says she's a terrible person and is going to hell when she dies. Lol

 

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15 minutes ago, MattyMads said:

There is an article in the Daily Mail today talking about the hung up video shoot, also mentioned is a rumour the biopic maybe scrapped due to it costing too much and the constant changes in script.

Looks like a world tour may happen then.

Just the Mail rehashing the "rumour" tweet from last week then... 

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On 9/3/2022 at 10:28 AM, musicinferno said:

Where would a good cut off point be? Ray of Light? 

 

I can't imagine the movie going all the way up until present. The only interesting things would be her divorce from Guy and maybe Confessions. 

Confessions, absolutely. She can show the release and massive hit the album had and end the movie with CT opening night

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I think the movie should be told in order but it does not have to include everything to be powerful. It might be more powerful.

Like the 16 track Finally Enough Love. It gets the job done very well and sometimes I think its better than the 3 disc version. The one disc is definitely better for the general public.

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17 hours ago, Andymad said:

The Whitney movie trailer just surfaced. M needs to figure out her sheet and get the ball rolling

Right. The Whitney biopic was announced in April 2020 before the script was complete. By the end of the year they announced the casting. The movie will be released December 2022. Madonna began working on her screenplay with Diablo around the summer of 2020. It's been 2 years and no official casting has been announced. A few months ago we heard reports of Jennifer Garner being offered the role but nothing has been confirmed of her accepting the role. Last November Amy Pascal said that they were going to begin filming this year. Well that doesn't look like it's happening. 

Hopefully we get some exciting updates to coincide with the 40th anniversary of her debut single next month.

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14 hours ago, Vasili said:

Agreed but the Whitney trailer has a corny 'TV movie' feel to it which I know M will avoid at all costs.

I agree, and yet I like that it's mostly about the music, all eras are included and this is something I really hope M will be able to do, at least all the 80s and 90s stuff, also beacause, if WH had a strong musical and performative talent, she never got ambitious, innovative and provocative as M did. So of course M's backgrounds can be quite interesting to experience.

Maybe that's one of the reasons why she's having troubles, she already said she doesn't know what to cut off and wants to include too much stuff. 

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I have a feeling that the film will only show Madonna's life before she became a world star: a part of her story that many of us do not fully know and that Madonna herself has declared in interviews to be the part she is most interested in showing since it can serve as an inspiration to many young people who try to achieve success and fame. Objectives, by the way, that many fail to achieve due to the "high cost" they have to pay to achieve it. Seeing how Madonna overcame or faced these obstacles to achieve fame seems more interesting to me than reliving moments that fans or the general public already know too well.

A proof of my theory is the profile of the actress who will play her: a beautiful woman with an innocent and youthful appearance. This allows us to conclude that Madonna's entire life will not be shown until today because her appearance would only allow her to interpret it until the True Blue era, which is where I find her most similar to Madonna.

Another reason would be that this stage of Madonna's life (before reaching fame) would be the most sincere and honest that we would see and that Madonna herself agrees to tell because since she achieved fame a constant procession of cunningly planned alteregos would begin, becoming one of the factors that have helped her remain relevant to this day and that have made her a rather enigmatic character, turning the question: "Who is the real Madonna?" in a rather difficult riddle to answer.

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We seem to be in biopic overload the last few years. Every bugger is doing one. 
This makes it more difficult for M because it seems like she’s running with the pack and she hates that. 
but it also gives her chance to look at what is out there and make decisions.

The difficult balance she has to figure out is the tone between feel good celebration film where people get a real and true understanding and appreciation of who she is vs something profound and arty and non traditional. 
 

Looking at her projects for the last decade I’m not entirely sure she has the best grip on where that line lies.

She very much seems like she’s in no mood to people please right now more than ever so I really have no idea how this is going to turn out.

In my opinion what she really needs to a perfectly executed Gee Pee smasher. My gut feeling is she will misjudge the vibe and it will be Eurovision part 2. 
Everyone is ready to dance and she starts handing out gas masks. 
#vibecheck

It needs a singular theme and I for one think her billboard speach would be the perfect jump off point. 

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