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[Jackie 5,718]

1 minute ago, wtg1987 said:

I still don’t get why people are so het up on stuff not on streaming - don’t you guys have all these songs on your laptops , hard drives etc ? They have only been available for like nearly 30 years and you can transfer them to your phones too ? Sure I get that there are vinyl only songs that need digital releases ( open your heart remix edit, spotlight unmixed and rescue me lifeboat dub bring my most wanted ) but why all the NRM remixes ???

Yea, I was thinking that too, why do I even care lol - I don't know - I guess we are all super fans and want the world to hear it all.

[BuggedOut 2,181]

1 hour ago, tscott said:

Meltdowns already?  LOL!  Seriously though, they have no obligation to fulfill our wishes with promo and unreleased mixes.  No one else but some hardcore fans care if they get promotional or edits of the version.  And you'd think most of those fans would have at least a digital library of their own with those mixes. 

I'm just grateful that they are releasing her mixes to the streaming world. 

I don’t see any meltdowns. I see people disappointed that officially released stuff to the public ie Club 69 Mixshow Mix, etc is probably not going to be included.

No need for dramatics :P

[thegoldencalf 11,893]

40 minutes ago, tscott said:

Most hardcore fans would still have those mixes unofficially.  No different to leaks and other promotional mixes that have made it online.  In fact, I'm sure most of anything can be found at this forum alone in the download forums of this community.

Not everything. For example the edit two of fever was never available as a true digital file until they released it officially on the Rain digital single. 
I just think it’s a missed opportunity to have a reissue campaign and not put in the care and planning it deserves 

[BuggedOut 2,181]

44 minutes ago, tscott said:

Most hardcore fans would still have those mixes unofficially.  No different to leaks and other promotional mixes that have made it online.  In fact, I'm sure most of anything can be found at this forum alone in the download forums of this community.

Then by that logic, no one here should be streaming any of M’s stuff, since we have it all and carry our digital libraries around with us. 

[thegoldencalf 11,893]

20 minutes ago, Jackie said:

Yea, I was thinking that too, why do I even care lol - I don't know - I guess we are all super fans and want the world to hear it all.

Fuck the world lol. I just want a full comprehensive digital archive for myself.

Also I wanna give her my streams but if they leave stuff out it’s much too complicated to juggle between Spotify and my personal streaming app

[BuggedOut 2,181]

23 minutes ago, wtg1987 said:

I still don’t get why people are so het up on stuff not on streaming - don’t you guys have all these songs on your laptops , hard drives etc ? They have only been available for like nearly 30 years and you can transfer them to your phones too ? Sure I get that there are vinyl only songs that need digital releases ( open your heart remix edit, spotlight unmixed and rescue me lifeboat dub bring my most wanted ) but why all the NRM remixes ???

Personally, I use streaming a lot when I am cleaning, showering, in my car, etc and having things streaming is just convenient to make playlists to listen to do whilst doing those things.

I don’t carry external HD’s with me from room to room and in my car, but maybe I am in the minority.

[tscott 1,885]

3 hours ago, thegoldencalf said:

Not everything. For example the edit two of fever was never available as a true digital file until they released it officially on the Rain digital single. 
I just think it’s a missed opportunity to have a reissue campaign and not put in the care and planning it deserves 

I understand that, but some get too serious about it.  Most of these edits are slight and I'm a hardcore fan and I don't care if all of them make it to streaming.  As @wtg1987stated, I have every one of these mixes digitally. Most every one of these files have been ripped,existed for years and have been shared extensively.  I don't believe for a second a casual fan or the general public cares to hear "Fever (edit two)" or some other edit.  

I do think a lot of fans unreasonably expect way too much here.  This will never end if we keep complaining that every single promo or mix we know exists must be made available for us.  

[tscott 1,885]

27 minutes ago, BuggedOut said:

Then by that logic, no one here should be streaming any of M’s stuff, since we have it all and carry our digital libraries around with us. 

You're twisting what I said.  I simply stated that there is no reason to feel we are owed all these different versions of her songs on the streaming platforms, especially the ones that didn't exist commercially in the first place.  And it's just weird to see people like you have meltdowns or become dramatic over it, acting as if you are owed her complete unreleased and/or promotional catalog.   Or even more, think some major 'f-up' is being made.

[BuggedOut 2,181]

7 minutes ago, tscott said:

You're twisting what I said.  I simply stated that there is no reason to feel we are owed all these different versions of her songs on the streaming platforms, especially the ones that didn't exist commercially in the first place.  And it's just weird to see people like you have meltdowns or become dramatic over it, acting as if you are owed her complete unreleased catalog.   Or even more, think some major 'f-up' is being made.

When M’s people were uploading EP’s like Bedtime Story and Frozen, with every mix possible included, and then they suddenly stop doing that and only upload mixes from the UK single (LDLHA) and probably the U.S. cd of Nothing Really Matters, it’s just disappointing.

Nobody is saying that is the end of the world.

Casual streamers are not the only ones that matter. They should be trying to please both parties when it is incredibly easy. That’s all. 

[tscott 1,885]

57 minutes ago, Jackie said:

Yea, I was thinking that too, why do I even care lol - I don't know - I guess we are all super fans and want the world to hear it all.

And this I get... just as we all want her to score another huge hit with a new song.  We want it all.  But it's just not realistic. I don't know any other artist who has provided all their mixes, edits, promotional mixes/edits, etc. to the public in the way some fans are expecting here of Madonna.  I can't speak for most fans, but a lot of these mixes and edits don't sound much different to what is already provided. I know we have serious audiophiles who can pin point every little difference, addition, etc, but I'm just happy to have the original version and the mixes they provide.   It's just weird how dramatic and upset some get over this when I feel we are pretty damn lucky to have her still releasing new music and doing her best getting her whole catalog out to the public. Some say it's not the "end of the world", yet they rant on and on about it consistently with every time something is released.  It's like they are never happy!

[RUADJAI 13,238]

4 hours ago, steady75 said:

Nothing Really Matters floppage will never sit right with me. It was my favourite on the album from first listen and remains flawless. It's classic Madonna. 

But that's more so cuz it was 4th single right?  Do any 4th singles really do well?

[BuggedOut 2,181]

13 minutes ago, tscott said:

And this I get... just as we all want her to score another huge hit with a new song.  We want it all.  But it's just not realistic. I don't know any other artist who has provided all their mixes, edits, promotional mixes/edits, etc. to the public in the way some fans are expecting here of Madonna.  I can't speak for most fans, but a lot of these mixes and edits don't sound much different to what is already provided. I know we have serious audiophiles who can pin point every little difference, addition, etc, but I'm just happy to have the original version and the mixes they provide.   It's just weird how dramatic and upset some get over this when I feel we are pretty damn lucky to have her still releasing new music and doing her best getting her whole catalog out to the public. Some say it's not the "end of the world", yet they rant on and on about it consistently with every time something is released.  It's like they are never happy!

Of all people, Mariah Carey’s people released everything and more. Yikes.

 

[Bjonkers 1,171]

19 minutes ago, RUADJAI said:

But that's more so cuz it was 4th single right?  Do any 4th singles really do well?

No. Warners screwed up the release of it in the US and it barely cracked the Hot 100. The physical single was released weeks after the Grammy performance and video had happened and any radio play and post Grammy buzz had fizzled out... or maybe it went to radio really late, I can't quite remember...

[tscott 1,885]

1 hour ago, BuggedOut said:

Of all people, Mariah Carey’s people released everything and more. Yikes.

 

Not even close to True!  Bye!

[RUADJAI 13,238]

1 hour ago, Bjonkers said:

No. Warners screwed up the release of it in the US and it barely cracked the Hot 100. The physical single was released weeks after the Grammy performance and video had happened and any radio play and post Grammy buzz had fizzled out... or maybe it went to radio really late, I can't quite remember...

Well it definitely was in the clurb. This was the beginning of my clubbing days. 

[Curator 2,168]

6 minutes ago, RUADJAI said:

Well it definitely was in the clurb. This was the beginning of my clubbing days. 

Not the poor seals? 

[Roland Barthes 4,659]

I remember the Club69 edit being played on KTU (New York) in january of 1999 like 3 months befre its release. When NRM was finally released everywhere it was like 2 months after the video and Beautiful Stranger premiered like two weeks later. Big mess !

[NothingReallyMatters 599]

8 hours ago, Rebel Hugo said:

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NOTHING REALLY MATTERS NEXT WEEK!!! 

WE WON

[GregVsMatt 2,702]

6 hours ago, Jackie said:

BUT who's buying? It's all streaming - no one (except a few) are actually buying - it's all streaming - so it's all part of the monthly streaming cost. 

I run Madonna Australia as you know and from the comments on the posts we do for the digital releases, I've learned there are a number of fans who still like to buy from iTunes and similar - from the comments I've also learned that there are some who are not interested in digital or streaming and are only buying physical releases like we got with FEL etc it's always interesting how people consume music 

[Blue Jean 9,568]

Perhaps they will release Pt. 2 of some of these remix EP's down the line?

[Jackie 5,718]

4 hours ago, GregVsMatt said:

I run Madonna Australia as you know and from the comments on the posts we do for the digital releases, I've learned there are a number of fans who still like to buy from iTunes and similar - from the comments I've also learned that there are some who are not interested in digital or streaming and are only buying physical releases like we got with FEL etc it's always interesting how people consume music 

I stand corrected!  

[Prayer 9,061]

7 hours ago, Bjonkers said:

No. Warners screwed up the release of it in the US and it barely cracked the Hot 100. The physical single was released weeks after the Grammy performance and video had happened and any radio play and post Grammy buzz had fizzled out... or maybe it went to radio really late, I can't quite remember...

Warner always pushed for album sales back then (way more profitable than single sales). It was intentional. “You like the song? Well, buy the whole album then” was the reason behind the mess.

“Nothing Really Matters” case was extreme and a total chart mess in the US and surely it added to her being pissed off and all the tensions with them in 2000-2001 and later.

[MPowered 3,296]

5 hours ago, Blue Jean said:

Perhaps they will release Pt. 2 of some of these remix EP's down the line?

Yeah they are probably doing that to make more money and possibly to keep the re-issue campaign afloat over a longer period of time.

They seemingly left off the dub mixes or radio mixes of several releases in particular. It's really annoying but understandable from a marketing perspective.

Anyway @tscott many of us are collectors. Madonna's catalogue is still quite patchy and there are many releases that were never released from digital source. That's why a lot of us are looking forward to this. Aside from that, it's also very hard to leave a personal digital collection behind and primarily stream Madonna's music on Spotify if her team refuses to upload her catalogue more carefully and complete.

It is possible and Mariah's team f.e. has done it much better and also because they KNOW they need to get people on streaming, so that she'll see money from it. The disappointment and the complaints are well justified ESPECIALLY cause we got well curated EPs for the Erotica singles. There is technically no point as to why they suddenly decided to go back to utterly lackluster releases.

Bottom line: You don't seem to be able to understand the issue or the complexity of it. In that case, I would suggest you don't moan about it unless you have a better insight on the matter and let us complain in peace.

[Blue Jean 9,568]

2 hours ago, MPowered said:

let us complain in peace.

Amen

[Blue Jean 9,568]

Uploading things that aren’t available on Spotify is just too glitchy and annoying. This is why I changed to YouTube Music, because I can upload all my Madonna stuff that isn’t on streaming and access it very easily with the correct covers, track lists etc.

I highly recommend it for anyone wanting the best solution to this problem.

The only downside is that out of all the platforms Spotify has the best playlists for finding new music. But aside from that YouTube music is very very similar function wise.