MADONNA AND WARNER MUSIC GROUP ANNOUNCE MILESTONE, CAREER-SPANNING PARTNERSHIP!!

[theglamorous 4,087]

1 hour ago, Fabiolous said:

Gurl I'm hoping there's nothing, cause if it wasn't good enough to be on THAT album, it should probably be destroyed with fire

I'd add the original Bang Bang, Between The Bars and Je T'aime Moi Non Plus

[Fabiolous 5,490]

1 hour ago, rescueme said:

I'd add the original Bang Bang, Between The Bars and Je T'aime Moi Non Plus

Bang bang sure, the other twos really have nothing to do with MDNA

[theglamorous 4,087]

2 hours ago, Fabiolous said:

Bang bang sure, the other twos really have nothing to do with MDNA

Where would you put them? Surely MDNA is closer than Rebel Heart which is over-flowing with outtakes and demos

[baymad4her 1,990]

Does anyone know if the expanded reissues sales will count towards the original releases chart run and sales, or will it count as a different release? 

[Fabiolous 5,490]

41 minutes ago, rescueme said:

Where would you put them? Surely MDNA is closer than Rebel Heart which is over-flowing with outtakes and demos

In an album of covers, together with If I Had A Hammer, Your song, The Sound of silence etc

[theglamorous 4,087]

40 minutes ago, Fabiolous said:

In an album of covers, together with If I Had A Hammer, Your song, The Sound of silence etc

How is that part of the deluxe editions series?

[Fabiolous 5,490]

20 minutes ago, rescueme said:

How is that part of the deluxe editions series?

The same way Finally Enough Love is her contract with Warner also includes brand new releases of her back catalogue 

[theglamorous 4,087]

8 minutes ago, Fabiolous said:

The same way Finally Enough Love is her contract with Warner also includes brand new releases of her back catalogue 

So instead of bundling rarities with the albums closest they should release barebones deluxe editions and add the rarities to an incoherent new compilation. What a marvellous idea lol

[Fabiolous 5,490]

19 minutes ago, rescueme said:

So instead of bundling rarities with the albums closest they should release barebones deluxe editions and add the rarities to an incoherent new compilation. What a marvellous idea lol

No, they shouldn't release a deluxe edition of MDNA at all

Lol you think a collection of covers would be incoherent but you would put Behind the bars on MDNA 

[theglamorous 4,087]

4 minutes ago, Fabiolous said:

No, they shouldn't release a deluxe edition of MDNA at all

to be fair, they could ditch about 8 of the tracks and just release a decent EP with the rest on ;)

[steady75 9,570]

I'm not sure about the notion that she was everywhere in the period leading up to Erotica. The last we'd really seen of her was The Immaculate Collection Xmas 90 and while Truth or Dare grabbed headlines for a couple of weeks it was a curio and press fodder and not in the cinemas for very long at all. In fact I really only knew about it as a friend had mentioned going to see it and I was like "oh ok then" little did I know it would change my whole life.

This Used To Be My Playground was obviously another no 1 smasher in June 92 not long before Eroticas release, but it was subdued and low key. The movie was out but again. Radio and MTV were Madonnas prime format. 

So really music wise her last big presence on radio and  MTV was November 1990 when Justify My Love came out. 

Rescue Me was never panned as single and didn't have a video as such. So music wise we were 18 months ...nearly two years away from her last musical release. I remember it seemed like an absolute age. Lets also not forget that by Oct 92 that her last studio album proper was 3 1/2 years before when Like A Prayer came out. 

Being such a face of the 80's the record company 100% knew that there was a chance Madonna wasn't going to be accepted in the new decade. Which is probably why both her and Warner were throwing everything they could into that career crescendo at the back end of 1990 with  The Immaculate Collection feeding off the back of the runaway success of Vogue and Blond Ambition. Immaculate could easily have been the gold watch of her career. 

Literally nothing was based around a solid album campaign for nearly three years. It was contract closing, soundtrack, tour doc and re-release territory. Milk the cow for all it's worth before it's dead if you like. It was kind of chaotic. 

so Erotica....Vogue through to Erotica are probably what I'd call her dog whistle years...and by dogs I mean gays. Yes 89-90 was her imperial phase in terms of art / headlines / touring and controversy but the album sales were in decline and Madonna was trying to eek out her core audience and ride or dies. The wannabes had moved on and stopped playing dress up and the heterosexual men were also stepping away. All those men in Caio Italia crowds were fast being replaced by gay men at concerts and by the time The Girlie Show came around the gays had set up camp in field Madonna. 

So....yes the Erotica single charted high and Deeper & Deeper hit number 7 and Rain number 14 in the states..which was the region that reacted the worst to the campaign but the rest were either regioned (which is industry talk for hedging bets) or charted poorly. Us dutty UK sluts were loving the era and every single went top 10. but there was no number 1bUK or US. Which was her first project to not deliver since her breakout. 

Like A Virgin, True Blue, Vision Quest, Who's That Girl, Like A Prayer, I'm Breathless, Immaculate Collection, A League Of Their Own all delivered US number 1 singles. Even Desperately Seeking Susan had spawned the colossal Into The Groove which let's face it would have been number one if it hadn't have been for the messy roll out. 

Erotica album was an anomaly and maybe the public were sexed out. Justify My Love, Hanky Panky, the Evian Blow job, All The Way Mae, x rated Vogue poster and tits in video, Sean out...Warren, Tony, Vanilla Ice in, Madonna was starting to be branded as  a nymphomaniac....so now what? I know let's do a film about kinky sex, a pornographic coffee table book and an album based around love but called Erotica. 

A cynic would say she was running out of ideas and when the shit hit the fan, Bad Girl was pulled as the second single and Deeper & Deeper was the albums banker. "I know let's throw in a couple of lines from my last worldwide smasher Vogue to let them the old me is still in there somewhere". As i say..a cynic would have the knives sharpened. 

Even in the UK the singles, while charting high, were a slight false economy, There sales were low. Most doing about the same or even half the number the largely after thought single from her flop film The Look Of Love had done a few years earlier. 

Things weren't looking great. 

I'm sure I read somewhere that Erotica had been planned as Warners greatest album ever. I'm sure they were looking to do Thriller type numbers, but the truth was that Erotica has shifted 25% of what True Blue did. That's a 75% decline in sales and I'm not even sure if the double vinyl sales were counted as two shipments back then, which none of he other albums would have counted as (immaculate aside).

Like A Prayers 15 million and lack of radio friendly hit singles past Cherish already had them knocking as Sheps door for an overhaul remix and a new track for a B side to shift units as they obviously felt Keep It Together was not strong enough to do the numbers on it's own. We really really can't under estimate the huge power of Vogue and just how essential it was to her career at the time. 

From a fan perspective Like A Prayer to end of Erotica era was the absolute best time to be a fan but the men in suits were looking at the spread sheets and the numbers were not looking good. 

Apart from the debut and the potential pre Madonna tracks they may include Erotica is 100% the re-issue I'm most looking forward to. 

A wealth of unused demos' the most controversial period of her career and a long awaiting time to shine. In my opinion it's the absolute perfect way to kick off her album re-issues campaign.   

 

 

[Curtains 13,290]

9 hours ago, Fabiolous said:

MDNA has no outtakes tho? Or just one?

Your Name is the only outtake I know of from these sessions. Bang Bang Boom could also be released, also Love Spent in acoustic, but then if anything gets added it will probably be a remix cd.

[steady75 9,570]

Didnt she do the Chris Brown song Wake Me Up or did I imagine that?

 

I suppose MDNA was the first era where they used any left over tracks that would previously have been vaulted, on the delulxe CD. 

[Fabiolous 5,490]

9 minutes ago, steady75 said:

Didnt she do the Chris Brown song Wake Me Up or did I imagine that?

I read that was never recorded

[Alm47 896]

I remember a rumour on the MDNA days about the “terror bride”. It was started by Perez Hilton and quickly gained notoriety on the press.

Did someone else remember that? 🧐

[theglamorous 4,087]

3 hours ago, alvaroliam said:

I remember a rumour on the MDNA days about the “terror bride”. It was started by Perez Hilton and quickly gained notoriety on the press.

Did someone else remember that? 🧐

I might be wrong but wasn't it just an outfit for the MDNA tour that got dropped

[survivalartist 6,466]

5 hours ago, steady75 said:

I'm not sure about the notion that she was everywhere in the period leading up to Erotica. The last we'd really seen of her was The Immaculate Collection Xmas 90 and while Truth or Dare grabbed headlines for a couple of weeks it was a curio and press fodder and not in the cinemas for very long at all. In fact I really only knew about it as a friend had mentioned going to see it and I was like "oh ok then" little did I know it would change my whole life

She was in a little movie called Dick Tracy too. People saw it. My friends in elementary school had t-shirts and action figures. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175083861743 (as seen on PETE DAVIDSON lol)

[Alm47 896]

18 minutes ago, rescueme said:

I might be wrong but wasn't it just an outfit for the MDNA tour that got dropped

Never knew if it was for the tour, for a video, or what. After the tour ended, the Secret Project tease began, so I thought it could also be the title for a new song related to that project that never saw the light of day. 
Now that I think about it, that whole rumour was so strange…

[Brendanlovesu1 11,970]

23 minutes ago, rescueme said:

I might be wrong but wasn't it just an outfit for the MDNA tour that got dropped

 

It was supposedly for a video for Superstar 

''Although no music video was officially confirmed or produced, media outlets reported that a music video for "Superstar" was to be shot in October 2012. Madonna wanted to dress as a "Terror Bride", which is a combination of an Iraqi bridal veil and a US soldier's uniform. The dress was to be portrayed as a statement for oppression against women and warfare. However, the singer's advisers talked her out of wearing the costume because they thought it would "put her life at risk". Sources then stated "[Madonna] had the outfit ready to go. She was really proud of it and said it was her 'Terror Bride' costume [...] At first, when people started telling her it was madness, she just brushed it off, but when they mentioned that her actions could put her life at risk, she decided to ditch it from her video and certainly won't be wearing it on stage." Madonna said she was "really disappointed" about not wearing the outfit, but had put aside the idea for a future use.'' 

http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/report-madonna-wont-wear-terror-bridal-dress-for-fear-of-safety-1750239

I mean this is Madonna’s Intro costume for the MDNA Tour but all I see is her just recreating her gown from her wedding with Ratchie?

 

[Alpha 1,178]

6 hours ago, steady75 said:

Didnt she do the Chris Brown song Wake Me Up or did I imagine that?

 

I suppose MDNA was the first era where they used any left over tracks that would previously have been vaulted, on the delulxe CD. 

There's also a track called Kids. Some say she did record it others say no. It was a leftover from "Flesh Tone". Also MIA mentioned "Sexodus" because she felt it was perfect for her at first then didnt so not sure if she record it or not. I LOVE MDNA...I find it such an interesting album. Ironically the songs i skip are Love Spent (which I find HORRIBLE with that stupid banjos and pseudo clever lyrics) and Masterpiece. 

Also does anyone remember when the original plan was to have it arranged like Confessions where each track was meant to flow into each other? That's why each song has a cold ending.

[Sultrysully 2,865]

6 hours ago, Fabiolous said:

No, they shouldn't release a deluxe edition of MDNA at all

Lol you think a collection of covers would be incoherent but you would put Behind the bars on MDNA 

I love MDNA.  I will take a Expanded version of any M album.  The Orbit tracks were all very good.  

[theglamorous 4,087]

1 minute ago, Sultrysully said:

I love MDNA.  I will take a Expanded version of any M album.  The Orbit tracks were all very good.  

to be fair though, Madonna could fart into a trombone and you'd love it

[steady75 9,570]

10 minutes ago, rescueme said:

to be fair though, Madonna could fart into a trombone and you'd love it

 

[steady75 9,570]

1 hour ago, DickTracy said:

She was in a little movie called Dick Tracy too. People saw it. My friends in elementary school had t-shirts and action figures. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175083861743 (as seen on PETE DAVIDSON lol)

Yes love I'm talking about after Immaculate end of 1990. Dick Tracy was June 90. 

[survivalartist 6,466]

4 minutes ago, steady75 said:

Yes love I'm talking about after Immaculate end of 1990. Dick Tracy was June 90. 

Ya but it also had the video release, Academy Awards, etc. 

I'm a big fan of Dick Tracy (obviously ) and it was my first real introduction to Madonna