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17 hours ago, steady75 said:

Hey. I hear some of your points but I also think you veer into making some points that don't add up 100%

The Starrah thing yes I do remember that actually now you mention it.  The Timbo Pharrell thing was largley because that moment musically had passed and was on the backfoot. Everybody loved Loose , Love Angel Music Baby & Future / Love/ Sex / Sounds no? and werent fans clammoring for Beat Goes On with Kanye to be a single big time as well as Timbalands classic sound of Devil Wouldn't Recognise you? Wasn't It Spanish Lesson, Incredible and Voices that were getting all the hate?

Bedtime Stories is widely recognised as a fan favourite album that performed badly at the time because she was in a career lull. Many fans refer to the weakest track being the poppiest one. "Don't Stop".  The same with Erotica. Waiting is an album highlight and although it's just an aside / bonus / remix etc "Did You Do It" is essentially giving the misogynistic male perspective which beautifully give another depth to her message. 

I also think Nikki Minaj got a lot of flack because she's hella problematic and featured on not one but three of Madonnas songs across two successive projects. Who else has had that? It was a case of ugh not again etc. GMAYL was not loved but Bitch was divisive more because of the Diplo / Sophie production, Nikki is fire on it IMO. Nas / Chance were also fire on the album as were Swae and Quavo on X.

and for the record I think the Britney & Justin collabs are some of the worst of her career and I've never heard much to the contrary tbh, and the DUA remix was bloody slated by most including the Dua fans who thought it was an abomination and the Blessed Madonna got hate mail. Let's not rewrite that one. 

This is just you sharing you opinions on certain songs and features? My points were about the racially motivated comments that were made by anti-black fans.

Nicki Minaj wasn't considered problematic until 2017-2018, so that is false. And again, your comments on Nas/Chance are your opinion. I was speaking on the racially motivated comments that were made by anti-black fans.

And again, your comments on Britney/Justin are your opinon - The point I made was that her collaborations with Britney/Dua were the most encouraged by fans, which is true. Blessed Madonna got roasted by the general public and stan twitter, Madonna fans barely made a squeak.

It's really telling how you haven't really countered any points I made yet still got likes and support. It's sad because I always take time to read your think-piece posts because you always have something intelligent and informed to say.. To see you of all people go to these lengths to make excuses for anti-black fans is embarrassing.

17 hours ago, steady75 said:

Isn't "unapologetically black" problematic to the black community itself?

No.

17 hours ago, steady75 said:

and yes anti-black Madonna fans do exist of course they do, I don't think anyone is denying that and it's correct to be mindful / aware of it.

My point was 100% focused on anti-black fans specifically and no one else. And you just made all that effort to take it apart...

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1 minute ago, yeezuslovesmypussybest said:

This is just you sharing you opinions on certain songs and features? My points were about the racially motivated comments that were made by anti-black fans.

Nicki Minaj wasn't considered problematic until 2017-2018, so that is false. And again, your comments on Nas/Chance are your opinion. I was speaking on the racially motivated comments that were made by anti-black fans.

And again, your comments on Britney/Justin are your opinon - The point I made was that her collaborations with Britney/Dua were the most encouraged by fans, which is true. Blessed Madonna got roasted by the general public and stan twitter, Madonna fans barely made a squeak.

It's really telling how you haven't really countered any points I made yet still got likes and support. It's sad because I always take time to read your think-piece posts because you always have something intelligent and informed to say.. To see you of all people go to these lengths to make excuses for anti-black fans is embarrassing.

No.

My point was 100% focused on anti-black fans specifically and no one else. And you just made all that effort to take it apart...

I definitely dont deny that there is a certain bias against Madonna working with certain black styles of music, like some people dont like Bedtime Stories because of the R&B but I dont think that the majority of Madonna fans are totally deadset against her doing stuff with black artists. Just that nobody wants to see her feeling like a feature on her own album. Im just really conflicted about how I feel about Collaborations as a whole.

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11 minutes ago, Ziggy Stardust said:

I definitely dont deny that there is a certain bias against Madonna working with certain black styles of music, like some people dont like Bedtime Stories because of the R&B but I dont think that the majority of Madonna fans are totally deadset against her doing stuff with black artists. Just that nobody wants to see her feeling like a feature on her own album. Im just really conflicted about how I feel about Collaborations as a whole.

 

15 minutes ago, yeezuslovesmypussybest said:

My point was 100% focused on anti-black fans specifically and no one else.

 

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On 1/10/2022 at 9:35 AM, yeezuslovesmypussybest said:

 a lot of Madonna fans are anti-black. 

My entire response stream was based on this comment that you cannot in any way proportionally quantify just from internet troll comments. 

Why the hell would I go to lengths to make excuses for anyone anti black let alone Madonna fans. 

Really? Don’t do that.

I’m am also not responsible for any actions or reactions of other forum members. I speak alone. If you want talk more we can continue privately. I don’t get into internet spats. 
 

peace x 

 

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19 hours ago, steady75 said:

My entire response stream was based on this comment that you cannot in any way proportionally quantify just from internet troll comments. 

Why the hell would I go to lengths to make excuses for anyone anti black let alone Madonna fans. 

Really? Don’t do that.

I’m am also not responsible for any actions or reactions of other forum members. I speak alone. If you want talk more we can continue privately. I don’t get into internet spats. 
 

peace x 

 

A lot of Madonna fans are anti-black.

100% of the points I made were focused only on said anti-black Madonna fans.

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somebody said justins work with madonna was poor on this thread i do not think so ..i like devil wouldnt recognise you and dance2night and miles away so speak for yourself - i swear some of you act like just because you say its rubbish its rubbish ..no this is not the case its just your opinion ..there are very few rubbish madonna songs in my opinion and birthday song is one of them and hey you and champagne rose 

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5 minutes ago, beautifulkiller said:

somebody said justins work with madonna was poor on this thread i do not think so ..i like devil wouldnt recognise you and dance2night and miles away so speak for yourself - i swear some of you act like just because you say its rubbish its rubbish ..no this is not the case its just your opinion ..there are very few rubbish madonna songs in my opinion and birthday song is one of them and hey you and champagne rose 

Songs that are rubbish by Madonna's standards could be qualified as a lot of other pop artists masterpieces.

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3 hours ago, beautifulkiller said:

hey you has a nice melody but its lyrics are cringe galore lol ..i did like the live earth performance of it though .

To be fair that was Mirwais...Keep the Trance. Sure Pharrell turned a turd into a kidney stone but alas i dont count it existing.

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On 1/12/2022 at 6:41 AM, Prince of Darkness said:

I definitely dont deny that there is a certain bias against Madonna working with certain black styles of music, like some people dont like Bedtime Stories because of the R&B but I dont think that the majority of Madonna fans are totally deadset against her doing stuff with black artists. Just that nobody wants to see her feeling like a feature on her own album. Im just really conflicted about how I feel about Collaborations as a whole.

It's not just R&B, it's trip-hop as well.

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3 minutes ago, Enrico said:

What do you think the last IG story means?

Are we getting a collection of her 50 dance #1s? Reworked? Physical format?

Not with at least a new track?

These better be new remixes otherwise it’s just another boring GH which don’t even do well in the age of streaming when you can just make your own playlists. 

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5 minutes ago, BeepBeepBitchMove said:

These better be new remixes otherwise it’s just another boring GH which don’t even do well in the age of streaming when you can just make your own playlists. 

Well the great thing is you will have the option to not stream or purchase it. Hurray!

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6 minutes ago, nito84bcn said:

Does this mean that Impressive Instant remix will be released on digital too? ??

I hope so! Im praying for promo mixes or vinyl only remixes/edits and all segued like a DJ set a la Confessions. Mike Dean however is a friggin pain to watch but at least it will SOUND amazing.

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Madonna's 50 Dance Club Songs No. 1s


1983, "Holiday"/"Lucky Star" (five weeks at No. 1)
1984, "Like a Virgin" (three)
1985, "Material Girl"
1985, "Angel"/"Into the Groove"
1987, "Open Your Heart"
1987, "Causing a Commotion (Remix)"
1988, "You Can Dance (LP Cuts)"
1989, "Like a Prayer" (two)
1989, "Express Yourself" (three)
1990, "Keep It Together"
1990, "Vogue" (two)
1991, "Justify My Love" (two)
1992, "Erotica"
1993, "Deeper and Deeper"
1993, "Fever"
1994, "Secret" (two)
1995, "Bedtime Story"
1997, "Don't Cry for Me Argentina"
1998, "Frozen" (two)
1998, "Ray of Light" (four)
1999, "Nothing Really Matters" (two)
1999, "Beautiful Stranger" (two)
2000, "American Pie"
2000, "Music" (five)
2001, "Don't Tell Me"
2001, "What It Feels Like for a Girl"
2001, "Impressive Instant" (two)
2002, "Die Another Day" (two)
2003, "American Life"
2003, "Hollywood"
2003, "Me Against the Music," Britney Spears featuring Madonna (two)
2004, "Nothing Fails"
2004, "Love Profusion"
2005, "Hung Up" (four)
2006, "Sorry" (two)
2006, "Get Together"
2006, "Jump" (two)
2008, "4 Minutes," Madonna featuring Justin Timberlake & Timbaland (two)
2008, "Give It 2 Me"
2009, "Celebration"
2012, "Give Me All Your Luvin'," Madonna featuring Nicki Minaj & M.I.A.
2012, "Girl Gone Wild"
2012, "Turn Up the Radio"
2015, "Living for Love"
2015, "Ghosttown"
2015, "B**** I'm Madonna," Madonna featuring Nicki Minaj
2019, "Medellín," Madonna & Maluma
2019, "I Rise"
2019, "Crave," Madonna & Swae Lee
2020, "I Don't Search I Find"

 

it’s actually a bit of an odd list that’s really quite light on her more renowned 80’s stuff but love that there’s some odd ones on there.

And there actually more than 50 songs if you count the double As and You Can Dance tracks. 
 

Like… It’d be cool to have 

Angel

Causing A Commotion

Spotlight

Keep It Together 

Fever

Nothing Really Matters

American Pie

Impressive Instant

American Life

Nothing Fails

Love Profusion

Nobody Knows Me

Get Together

Jump

Give It 2 Me

and the interscope singles on a Madonna compilation cause they wouldn’t stand a chance on a traditional two disc greatest hits and never have. 

 

 

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