steady75 9,566 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Sadly audiophiles are a largely a thing of the past. Most people listen to music on cheap laptops and mobile phones often with cheap headphones, or even flat screen TV speakers which are notoriously shite or sad little bluetooth speakers. Most people don't even have a hifi system anymore. Either that or theyre on free or LQ data plans or Spotify Free or even You Tube. Crap sound is the dominant format unfortunately and M's music needs to sound audiable through those mediums. Not just M's most people so they sort of have to plump out her music just like her ass to compete. Ziploc, lennyleonard, EgoRod and 3 others 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New_Boy 7,876 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Mike Dean's the person who manage to leave a click in Madonna's vocal repeated a dozen times in "Crave", so nothing surprises me. Craigypants and MDRA 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brendanlovesu1 11,877 Posted May 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2022 I didn't realize we have so many audio engineers and mastering experts in here. This place is full of hidden talents Andymad, madgefan, Andreo and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prayer 14,275 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, New_Boy said: Mike Dean's the person who manage to leave a click in Madonna's vocal repeated a dozen times in "Crave", so nothing surprises me. Or maybe she/they wanted to leave that there to make it unique and different. Do you honestly think they didn't notice that mixing the song? What some of you call mixing mistakes during the years are just production choices - like the start of "Bitch I'm Madonna" with "...this", etc. Of course let's not enter the can of worms that is "Celebration" here hahaha. Craigypants, Alibaba and MDRA 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottyx 8,757 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Application just went up on her site to apply for engineer. Craigypants, Prayer, Andreo and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andreo 5,305 Posted May 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2022 Nobody: Literally nobody: Bitches here:"actually, in Like a Virgin, by boosting the volume x178 you can hear the producer farting twice, so unprofessional 🙄" Diieeego, Ziploc, Drum Dub and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziploc 2,566 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, Andreo said: Nobody: Literally nobody: Bitches here:"actually, in Like a Virgin, by boosting the volume x178 you can hear the producer farting twice, so unprofessional 🙄" OMG I only heard one fart! Give me the exact time of fart 2 wtg1987, Andreo and heikeeduardo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtg1987 10,151 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 I think considering how long she spent hyping this project up to then release in what looks like sub par quality just doesn’t cut it with me and other fans that’s all - yes this might be a blip with just this song but why release it then ? It certainly isn’t a very good start for this multi year project - they better not fuck up the lap demos or warning signs , assuming we will get them this decade 🙄🥴 Craigypants 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steady75 9,566 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Biggest female vocalist of all time. Don't think it's too much to ask for pro sound but werq I guess Enjoy your £50 lithographs and card cover heauxs Drum Dub, Craigypants, Daxkoba and 4 others 2 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha 1,171 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 2 hours ago, steady75 said: Sadly audiophiles are a largely a thing of the past. Most people listen to music on cheap laptops and mobile phones often with cheap headphones, or even flat screen TV speakers which are notoriously shite or sad little bluetooth speakers. Most people don't even have a hifi system anymore. Either that or theyre on free or LQ data plans or Spotify Free or even You Tube. Crap sound is the dominant format unfortunately and M's music needs to sound audiable through those mediums. Not just M's most people so they sort of have to plump out her music just like her ass to compete. I'm so in love with you Craigypants, Ziploc, steady75 and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RUADJAI 14,905 Posted May 27, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2022 No offense to anyone making fun of us analyzing the music... but blemishes in the music can instantly pull someone out of an experience. The magic of music production lies in creating space with audio effects like reverb and delays and it transports you to a place other than where you are. Something like the audio glitch in Music on Celebration makes the track unlistenable to me. The world created by Mirwais is instantly killed. The same could be said for Deeper and Deeper on this collection to me. The Kick and Cymbals are distorted when played together. It sounds ear fatiguing. It's fine though. Now I know it's not going to be THAT type of listening experience like every single album before Hard Candy. This is something to play casually, not get lost in the world of sound. It's also not something we should expect because of loudness wars and the such. Alot of new music is an eargasm to listen to. Many artists mixing in Dolby Atmos which is all about the separation of sounds, not crushing them together in some homogenous mess. Harry Styles new album sounds AMAZING, and he's at the top of the music game I would say. 50ft Queenie, Brendanlovesu1, Aiwa08 and 7 others 2 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalartist 6,442 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Brendanlovesu1 said: I didn't realize we have so many audio engineers and mastering experts in here. This place is full of hidden talents For real I took audio editing classes at uni and idk half the shit being said around here MattyMads, Roy and Andreo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sultrysully 2,865 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 2 hours ago, subversive said: it's a fan product only Actually, I can actually see this compilation as a major streaming piece for the general public. Not arguing the mastering but I think that thus is gonna be legacy building. RUADJAI 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New_Boy 7,876 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Prayer said: Or maybe she/they wanted to leave that there to make it unique and different. Do you honestly think they didn't notice that mixing the song? I think everyone should listen to the acapella and make up their own mind. You know I mostly agree with you! My personal take is that he only had a single corrupted vocal anyway. Prayer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDRA 4,222 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 23 minutes ago, RUADJAI said: The same could be said for Deeper and Deeper on this collection to me. The Kick and Cymbals are distorted when played together. It sounds ear fatiguing. It's fine though. It is, at the very least, even if I won't listen to this particular remix from the collection, it rekindled my love for David's mixes. I'll just swap it out with the original on my playlist. deathproof, Craigypants and RUADJAI 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subversive 1,105 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 10 minutes ago, Sultrysully said: Actually, I can actually see this compilation as a major streaming piece for the general public. Not arguing the mastering but I think that thus is gonna be legacy building. I don't see a casual listener enjoying 50 (FIFTY!) remixes at once for the sake of Madonna. Maybe listening 1, or two, a memorable hit remixed... but nothing more. Craigypants 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyMads 5,489 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 I expected the meltdowns with this project some people are never satisfied. cosmic_system, mavericksire, Alibaba and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subversive 1,105 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 18 minutes ago, subversive said: I don't see a casual listener enjoying 50 (FIFTY!) remixes at once for the sake of Madonna. Maybe listening 1, or two, a memorable hit remixed... but nothing more. I quote myself to make clear that maybe the 16 track version is more GP focused, but no 50 obv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregVsMatt 3,695 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 4 hours ago, LongIslandTea said: @Craigypants @GregVsMatt @Ayham You can get the Japanese version from Amazon Japan now! 1CD: https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B0B2DNYBBZ/ 3CD: https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B0B2DXGV1H @ScottyX Are you getting these? Hmmm they don't ship to Australia either - might have to grab them on ebay in August We are unable to ship non-digital items from amazon.co.jp to Australian shipping addresses. Please choose a shipping address that is not in Australia to proceed. Some restrictions may still apply depending on the item. LongIslandTea and Craigypants 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongIslandTea 1,584 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 1 minute ago, GregVsMatt said: Hmmm they don't ship to Australia either - might have to grab them on ebay in August We are unable to ship non-digital items from amazon.co.jp to Australian shipping addresses. Please choose a shipping address that is not in Australia to proceed. Some restrictions may still apply depending on the item. And yet they ship to USA. Weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregVsMatt 3,695 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 1 minute ago, LongIslandTea said: And yet they ship to USA. Weird. I've never had problems getting Japanese CDs in the past so will just wait and see if I can get it from other Japanese retailers Craigypants 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathproof 10,555 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 1 hour ago, RUADJAI said: No offense to anyone making fun of us analyzing the music... but blemishes in the music can instantly pull someone out of an experience. The magic of music production lies in creating space with audio effects like reverb and delays and it transports you to a place other than where you are. Something like the audio glitch in Music on Celebration makes the track unlistenable to me. The world created by Mirwais is instantly killed. The same could be said for Deeper and Deeper on this collection to me. The Kick and Cymbals are distorted when played together. It sounds ear fatiguing. It's fine though. Now I know it's not going to be THAT type of listening experience like every single album before Hard Candy. This is something to play casually, not get lost in the world of sound. It's also not something we should expect because of loudness wars and the such. Alot of new music is an eargasm to listen to. Many artists mixing in Dolby Atmos which is all about the separation of sounds, not crushing them together in some homogenous mess. Harry Styles new album sounds AMAZING, and he's at the top of the music game I would say. People are acting like if you say something critical about the remastering, that it means you think Madonna is over and should retire. I don’t get it! It’s just a critique! A discussion! Who knows what the rest of the songs are gonna sound like. Jackie, RUADJAI, Craigypants and 6 others 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valinecode 291 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 It's only illusion. No one has heard vinyl remaster version. You are listening digital compressed version. GregVsMatt, sidney78a and madgefan 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starchild 3,069 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 5 hours ago, RUADJAI said: Harry Styles new album sounds AMAZING, and he's at the top of the music game I would say. I listened to his new album and, while the sound quality was great, I cannot say the same for the music itself. There are less popular people making more incredible music. Craigypants, Bohh and Sultrysully 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gafuller 1,653 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 20 minutes ago, Vasili said: I listened to his new album and, while the sound quality was great, I cannot say the same for the music itself. There are less popular people making more incredible music. Not to drag us too off track, but I agree. It was a so so album. It was hard to sit there and decide what would be good follow singles. I. Thought the lead single was awesome. But the album blurs too many similar sounds. There’s some good songs on it, but it almost seemed like he didn’t care to push the envelope really. I’m worried for Dua Lipa’s next album similarly. I have faith Madonna can successfully reinvent and experiment with sounds. Most of the new artists… not quite. Starchild 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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