PlayPause 2,675 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Prayer said: Mmhmm I don't know about that. It happens all the time - covers, I mean. She had the story of "I was living in Portugal and hearing this song all the time and I loved it" it's not like suddenly she was covering a huge Korean hit just for the sake of it. xd Plus the original writers would have been happy to make even more money from it, I guess? She seemed to be pushing Anitta for some time on Instagram to join her in New York to shoot a video for it but she was on tour or something and it didn't happen in the end. From a marketing point of view, not having the original performer on the song is problematic. Of course covers happen all the time, but singles are to promote an album, not someone else's work, especially given the fact that M's version is so close to the original. That's impossible to sell, the critics would have killed her. TOpher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoLCL 5,036 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 21 minutes ago, PlayPause said: I've said it a million times also. Faz Gostoso is a cover from a HUGE hit in Brazil, and it features Anitta, who is a HUGE star. Not as hip as Rosalia, but she sells a lot more. So the track comes up on many playlists and algorithm suggestions. Nah... first of all Faz Gostoso is not a cover, it is a version (different structure and new english lyrics), secondly IT IS NOT a huge hit here in Brazil. It was a Hit in Portugal, though, with the original artist, Blaya. Anitta was awere of the song and sang it in on one of her shows prior to working with Madonna. Anitta, like Maluma, was probably chosen because of her streaming numbers on Latin America. Other than her roots in Baile Funk, the genre of the song. PlayPause 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayPause 2,675 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 1 minute ago, diegolcl said: Nah... first of all Faz Gostoso is not a cover, it is a version (different structure and new english lyrics), secondly IT IS NOT a huge hit here in Brazil. It was a Hit in Portugal, though, with the original artist, Blaya. Anitta was awere of the song and sang it in on one of her shows prior to working with Madonna. Anitta, like Maluma, was probably chosen because of her streaming numbers on Latin America. Other than her roots in Baile Funk, the genre of the song. OK my bad, not Brazil but Portugal. Anyway, the success of M's Faz Gostoso relies on Blaya's single. I don't think the song is that different : the production is exactly the same. M and Annitta brought a pop shine to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prayer 14,272 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, PlayPause said: From a marketing point of view, not having the original performer on the song is problematic. Of course covers happen all the time, but singles are to promote an album, not someone else's work, especially given the fact that M's version is so close to the original. That's impossible to sell, the critics would have killed her. I understand your point but I don't remember any negative feedback at all about the song on Portuguese and Brazilian media and/or from fans when the album was released, correct me if I'm wrong. Not even on woke Twitter and that's something. Brazil seemed to go crazy for it, actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayPause 2,675 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Just now, Prayer said: I understand your point but I don't remember any negative feedback at all about the song on Portuguese and Brazilian media and/or fans when the album was released, correct me if I'm wrong. Not even on woke Twitter and that's something. Brazil seemed to go crazy for it, actually. MMMh are you sure? I recall some critics wondering why the song was on Madame X because it made the album more messy and geographically challenging than it should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prayer 14,272 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, PlayPause said: MMMh are you sure? I recall some critics wondering why the song was on Madame X because it made the album more messy and geographically challenging than it should be. I don't remember any of that, link us some reviews if you find them please. TOpher and PlayPause 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayPause 2,675 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 50 minutes ago, Prayer said: I don't remember any of that, link us some reviews if you find them please. I'm not saying that's what I think, at all, but not every critic was satisfied with this very broad approach of the latin world and culture. Here are a few examples: Quote The garish favela funk of “Faz Gostoso” and the racy reggaeton of “Bitch I’m Loca”—featuring Anitta and Maluma, respectively—feel out of place amid the album’s otherwise refined sonic palette. https://www.slantmagazine.com/music/review-madonna-madame-x-is-a-fearless-eccentric-musical-memoir/ Quote Madonna gave herself over to the carnival soundspace that the Brazilian star inhabits so well – so much so that Madonna almost sounds like the featured artist here. https://www.gaytimes.co.uk/culture/we-ranked-every-song-on-madonnas-new-album-madame-x/ Quote Avec probablement l'idée de toucher l'immense public latino, mais le résultat est mitigé (...) l'album multiplie les directions sans frapper fort > aiming at a latin audience, the outcome is mixed (...) the albums goes in many directions but fails to make an impact. https://www.lindependant.fr/2019/06/14/avec-madame-x-madonna-fait-un-retour-en-fado-mineur,8256521.php Quote Comme dans tous les albums construits comme la narration documentaire d’eux-mêmes, parfois cela rate totalement. Les titres latinos (...) sont souvent décevants par leur fabrique forcenée et manquée d’un tube > like every album relying on its own documentary narrative, it fails hard sometimes. The latin tracks disappoint because they feel forced in wanting too much to be hits https://diacritik.com/2019/06/19/le-degre-madonna-de-la-culture-madame-x/ Quote Ses influences sont au moins aussi décousues. Le juke-box mondial de Madame X met la plupart de ses pièces dans les musiques latines > Her influences are at least as disjointed. The global juke-box of MX drops most of its coins on latin music https://www.liberation.fr/musique/2019/06/16/madonna-effets-de-causes_1734142/ And now I'm done with this matter, because we're going off thread !!! 🇧🇷 💚💛💙🤍 Prayer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prayer 14,272 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 15 minutes ago, PlayPause said: I'm not saying that's what I think, at all, but not every critic was satisfied with this very broad approach of the latin world and culture. Here are a few examples: https://www.slantmagazine.com/music/review-madonna-madame-x-is-a-fearless-eccentric-musical-memoir/ https://www.gaytimes.co.uk/culture/we-ranked-every-song-on-madonnas-new-album-madame-x/ > aiming at a latin audience, the outcome is mixed (...) the albums goes in many directions but fails to make an impact. https://www.lindependant.fr/2019/06/14/avec-madame-x-madonna-fait-un-retour-en-fado-mineur,8256521.php > like every album relying on its own documentary narrative, it fails hard sometimes. The latin tracks disappoint because they feel forced in wanting too much to be hits https://diacritik.com/2019/06/19/le-degre-madonna-de-la-culture-madame-x/ > Her influences are at least as disjointed. The global juke-box of MX drops most of its coins on latin music https://www.liberation.fr/musique/2019/06/16/madonna-effets-de-causes_1734142/ And now I'm done with this matter, because we're going off thread !!! 🇧🇷 💚💛💙🤍 Thanks for all the links! PlayPause 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milingo83 7,158 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 13/01 21.549.799 ( + 77.764) WW #223 (+1) Prayer and DaddyZ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prayer 14,272 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 3 hours ago, milingo83 said: 13/01 21.549.799 ( + 77.764) WW #223 (+1) + Songs stats: - "Back That Up To Beat": Demo Version: up to 2.475.732 streams Sped Up: 1.279.572 - New big peaks: "Material Girl" ("Celebration" Version): 310M "4 Minutes" ("Celebration" Version): 207M "Like A Virgin" ("Immaculate"/"Celebration" Version): 45M "Love Don't Live Here Anymore" ("Like A Virgin" Album Version): 3M - "Madame X" International Deluxe Bonus Tracks debut: "Funana": 6.404 "Back That Up To The Beat": 8.618 "Ciao Bella": 9.823 Clear winner here. Since it was added as a 2019 release and not a "new" one, no tracks appeared on Release Radar. Mistake but I guess you can't ask for more on Interscope's part. At least we finally got them on streaming. DiegoLCL, nito84bcn, milingo83 and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milingo83 7,158 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 14/01 21,639,768 (+89,969) WW #219 (+4) 🔥 Prayer, lucasciccone and pawn_shop_blues 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prayer 14,272 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 16 hours ago, milingo83 said: 14/01 21,639,768 (+89,969) WW #219 (+4) 🔥 Plus song stats: "Back That Up To The Beat" (Sped Up Version) enters her Top 10 at #10: - New big peaks: "Hung Up": 294M "Holiday" ("Madonna" Digital Reissue Edit Version): 79M - "Madame X" International Deluxe Bonus Tracks: "Funana": 9.982 "Back That Up To The Beat": 13.589 "Ciao Bella": 15.835 - Updated All Time Top 40 (Official, not merged): 01. Material Girl ("Celebration" Version): 310M 02. Hung Up: 294M 03. La Isla Bonita: 254M 04. Like A Prayer ("Celebration" Version): 252M 05. Like A Virgin ("Like A Virgin" Album Version): 207M 06. 4 Minutes ("Celebration" Version): 207M 07. Vogue ("Celebration"/"Immaculate" Version): 177M 08. Frozen (Sickick Remix): 113M 09. Papa Don't Preach: 97M 10. Crazy For You: 95M 11. Into The Groove: 91M 12. Bitch I'm Madonna: 86M 13. Like A Prayer ("Like A Prayer" Album Version): 82M 14. Holiday ("Madonna" Digital Reissue Edit Version): 79M 15. Holiday ("Celebration"/Original Album Version): 68M 16. Medellín: 66M 17. Music: 63M 18. Frozen ("Ray Of Light" Album Version): 62M 19. Sorry ("Confessions" Album Version): 45M 20. Like A Virgin ("Celebration"/"Immaculate" Version): 45M 21 American Pie: 44M 22. Material Girl ("Like A Virgin" Album Version): 44M 23. Take A Bow: 44M 24. Girl Gone Wild: 43M 25. Live To Tell: 42M 26. Faz Gostoso: 42M 27. Ray Of Light ("Ray Of Light" Album Version): 40M 28. Give It 2 Me: 37M 29. 4 Minutes ("Hard Candy" Album Version): 37M 30. True Blue: 36M 31. The Power Of Good-Bye: 36M 32. Ghosttown: 34M 33. Die Another Day: 34M 34. Express Yourself ("Celebration" Version): 34M 35. Living For Love: 34M 36. Give Me All Your Luvin': 32M 37. Jump: 31M 38. Frozen ("Celebration" Extended Version): 31M 39. Celebration: 31M 40. Borderline ("Celebration" Version): 31M nito84bcn, DaddyZ and milingo83 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milingo83 7,158 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 15/01 21,758,988 (+119,220) 🔥 WW #215 (+4) remixed224, lucasciccone and Prayer 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prayer 14,272 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 1 hour ago, milingo83 said: 15/01 21,758,988 (+119,22...) 🔥 WW #215 (+4) And song stats! - "Back That Up To The Beat": Demo Version: 2.888.775 streams -> should hit 3M tomorrow! Sped Up: 1.462.088 - New big peaks: "Don't Tell Me": 24M "Hanky Panky": 3M "La Isla Bonita" ("The Immaculate Collection" Version): 6M - "Madame X" International Deluxe Bonus Tracks: "Funana": 12.429 "Back That Up To The Beat": 17.073 "Ciao Bella": 20.026 milingo83 and DiegoLCL 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milingo83 7,158 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 16/01 21,841,030 (+82,042) WW #213 (+2) Prayer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prayer 14,272 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 4 hours ago, milingo83 said: 16/01 21,841,030 (+82,042) WW #213 (+2) She also updated her profile picture and header picture with the one Live Nation is using on the new tour ticket pages: Song stats today: - "Back That Up To The Beat": Demo Version: 3.107.080 streams -> +3M now! Sped Up: 1.555.285 - New big peaks: "Like A Virgin" ("Like A Virgin" Album Version): 208M "True Blue": 37M "Who's That Girl": 26M "Frozen" Sickick Feat. 070 Shake: 10M "Human Nature" (Album Version): 8M - "Madame X" International Deluxe Bonus Tracks: "Funana": 14.547 "Back That Up To The Beat": 20.180 "Ciao Bella": 23.423 milingo83 and animalinstinct 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
androiduser 2,402 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 do we think the tour announcement will be reflected on Spotify? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prayer 14,272 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, androiduser said: do we think the tour announcement will be reflected on Spotify? Probably a little bit, since the usual thing fans do is listening to more Madonna when there's something new or coming. Also, I guess some part of the general public will do that too if they get tickets and are going to the shows - go back to her and the greatest hits. We'll see in the next few days. She's in a good position now again, thanks to "Back That Up To The Beat": about to hit 22M monthly listeners again, which is so far her peak on the platform. It would be great if she can reach 23M or any other new peak. Alm47, milingo83 and nito84bcn 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milingo83 7,158 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 17/01 21,912,977 (+71,947) WW #210 (+3) pawn_shop_blues, Andreo and Prayer 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prayer 14,272 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 54 minutes ago, milingo83 said: 17/01 21,912,977 (+71,947) WW #210 (+3) + songs stats: - "Back That Up To The Beat": Demo Version: 3.340.675 streams Sped Up: 1.650.106 - New big peaks: "Like A Prayer" ("Celebration" Version): 253M "Papa Don't Preach": 98M milingo83 and nito84bcn 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milingo83 7,158 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 18/01 - 21,998,453 (+85,476) WW #210 (=) Prayer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prayer 14,272 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 25 minutes ago, milingo83 said: 18/01 - 21,998,453 (+85,476) WW #210 (=) 22M monthly listeners around the corner again! Tomorrow for sure. More from today's update: - "Back That Up To The Beat": Demo Version: 3.584.997 streams Sped Up: 1.749.132 - New big peaks: "Material Girl" ("Celebration" Version): 311M "Frozen" Sickick: 114M "Ghosttown": 35M "Dress You Up" ("Celebration" Version): 16M "What It Feels Like For A Girl": 9M - "Finally Enough Love": "What It Feels Like For A Girl" remix is now +700.000 streams DaddyZ and milingo83 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milingo83 7,158 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 19/01 - 22,059,484 (+61,031) 🎊 WW #209 (+1) Donna, pawn_shop_blues, Prayer and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prayer 14,272 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 2 hours ago, milingo83 said: 19/01 - 22,059,484 (+61,031) 🎊 WW #209 (+1) 22M again! More stats: - "Back That Up To The Beat": Demo Version: 3.842.198 streams Sped Up: 1.847.582 - New big peaks: "Hung Up": 255M "Shanti/Ashtangi": 4M Alm47, DaddyZ, Donna and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milingo83 7,158 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 20/01 - 22,273,402 (+213,918 ) NEW PEAK in monthly listeners 😲🎊 WW #205 (+4) Andreo, Prayer, DiegoLCL and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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