Roland Barthes 5,810 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 57 minutes ago, tscott said: While vocals are a bit rough, I welcome her singing LIVE like this any day. No singing on top of a backing track or per-recording. The rawness in her voice is everything. So much emotion and passion while delivering this performance. She did this throughout the whole show. I think she killed her voice on the Confessions tour, during Sticky and Sweet, from the beginning, it was very strained like it wasn't before. Her vocal chords have aged also, she does not do the cardio she used to do so her voice won't be like this anymore, just like ours are not what they were when we were younger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Beltran 3,676 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 Bring out Donna and Nicki and the arena would implode Ziploc, stefo, BuggedOut and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
androiduser 2,390 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 23 minutes ago, Pedro Beltran said: Bring out Donna and Nicki and the arena would implode I remember at DWT, when Donna and Nicki appeared on stage before Madonna there was a huge roar from the crowd... they are a part of Madonna's DNA for the live shows Homogenic79, JuanSchmidl, BuggedOut and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuggedOut 4,121 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, androiduser said: I remember at DWT, when Donna and Nicki appeared on stage before Madonna there was a huge roar from the crowd... they are a part of Madonna's DNA for the live shows 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dankpepe 1,038 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 55 minutes ago, Roland Barthes said: I think the Re-Invention tour, reinvented versions, worked better live. That Vogue intro sent rush of blood through your veins from the moment you heard "What are you looking at". Same with Holiday, especially after Stuart Price briefed fans that were following the tour everywhere to sing Uh Ah Uh Ah during the intro. It's a show i enjoyed a lot live but not on video, the total opposite of DWT in fact. I never attended the Reinvention Tour, too young at the time, but looking at Youtube videos it does feel flat. It's cool watching it as a Madonna fan but compared to her more recent tours it can seem dull visually and sonically (i.e. Deeper and Deeper, the entire French bistro section, etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donna 16,067 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 18 minutes ago, dankpepe said: I never attended the Reinvention Tour, too young at the time, but looking at Youtube videos it does feel flat. It's cool watching it as a Madonna fan but compared to her more recent tours it can seem dull visually and sonically (i.e. Deeper and Deeper, the entire French bistro section, etc) I think for me what feels "flat" about the Vogue performance is how dull the vocal performance was. For the most part, she was miming a re-recording of the song and it just sounded so blah. But I think for many, they were able to look past that and enjoy the actual performance. It was very artsy and people were impressed with that opening. I actually loved the Deeper and Deeper performance on RIT. It was unexpected and very re-inventive and unique. This current tour, I would expect that much of the performances will be re-inventive once again with a touch of nostalgia if not nods to old performances. dankpepe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuggedOut 4,121 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 16 minutes ago, dankpepe said: I never attended the Reinvention Tour, too young at the time, but looking at Youtube videos it does feel flat. It's cool watching it as a Madonna fan but compared to her more recent tours it can seem dull visually and sonically (i.e. Deeper and Deeper, the entire French bistro section, etc) The Basque section during MDNA was far more boring live (to me). dankpepe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scion 3,107 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Roland Barthes said: I think she killed her voice on the Confessions tour, during Sticky and Sweet, from the beginning, it was very strained like it wasn't before. Her vocal chords have aged also, she does not do the cardio she used to do so her voice won't be like this anymore, just like ours are not what they were when we were younger. I massively admire her approach to S&S, it was just poorly executed. The decision to sing pretty much the entire show live during what was her most physically demanding show show since 1990 was admirable. The musical direction however was poor with regards to the vocals. Drownedboy and BuggedOut 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donna 16,067 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 14 hours ago, scion said: I massively admire her approach to S&S, it was just poorly executed. The decision to sing pretty much the entire show live during what was her most physically demanding show show since 1990 was admirable. The musical direction however was poor with regards to the vocals. While I get what you are saying, I do feel like this was the last tour that seem very well executed and highly energetic. Rebel Heart Tour had some moments, but S&S felt like one huge rave party. I agree she had some vocal issues, but I prefer that over her just letting backing tracks take over. This is the tour, where many fans dubbed her with a "crow voice", but again I prefer that then her just miming or singing over a backing track. I love the song "Rebel Heart", but when she sang it live, you could clearly hear the backing track she was singing with. It sounded so cold because she just sang along and then the few times she would ad-lib, it sounded weird such as... "fuck yeah" when you can hear the backing track sing "oh yeah". I'm not concerned how well she can sing live, I just want to hear it live. I know she can sing quite well on certain songs, but other than that I'm all for the "crow vocals" but not over per-recorded backing tracks. Drownedboy, Mden and Ekans 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathproof 10,554 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 6 hours ago, missberic said: S&S Vogue has amazing arrangements but as a performance it is very lackluster. I mean, it's Vogue and there's nothing really interesting or mesmerizing going on. Still like it, tho. What BuggedOut, Blue Jean, Ekans and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mden 2,252 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 I love S&S. That smile as she opens with Candy Shop, the killer choreo in Vogue, Miles Away , the theatricality of La Isla Bonita, that cute dress, the cape , the geeky choreo of Give it 2Me. BuggedOut, rlittler81, deathproof and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Jean 15,091 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Some interesting opinions in here I’ll say that Robertthenurse and BuggedOut 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mden 2,252 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 I’ve been listening to Hard Candy this whole week. I love Mdolla. She deserves our respect. Candy Shop, 4 minutes and Give it 2Me would be fun additions to the tour. And She’s Not Me is too good to be left out. Donna, Sheridan1980, Ekans and 5 others 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Beltran 3,676 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Mden said: I love S&S. That smile as she opens with Candy Shop, the killer choreo in Vogue, Miles Away , the theatricality of La Isla Bonita, that cute dress, the cape , the geeky choreo of Give it 2Me. The only thing I don’t love from S&S is the 4 minutes american football costume and wig… oh the hung up performance but the stadium seemed to loved it when I went. rlittler81, Mden, Drownedboy and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuggedOut 4,121 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 18 minutes ago, Pedro Beltran said: The only thing I don’t love from S&S is the 4 minutes american football costume and wig… oh the hung up performance but the stadium seemed to loved it when I went. That 4 minutes outfit was atrocious. Was it a nod to her Super Bowl performance? Pedro Beltran 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dankpepe 1,038 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 1 hour ago, BuggedOut said: That 4 minutes outfit was atrocious. Was it a nod to her Super Bowl performance? She wouldn't have done the Super Bowl for 4 years later... BuggedOut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joan Rivers 255 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Pedro Beltran said: The only thing I don’t love from S&S is the 4 minutes american football costume and wig… oh the hung up performance but the stadium seemed to loved it when I went. they fucked my girls bangs up SO BAD animalinstinct, Drownedboy and BuggedOut 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mden 2,252 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 24 minutes ago, Joan Rivers said: they fucked my girls bangs up SO BAD She Looks So Good! Ekans, BuggedOut and Donna 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrico 15,786 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 7 hours ago, androiduser said: I remember at DWT, when Donna and Nicki appeared on stage before Madonna there was a huge roar from the crowd... they are a part of Madonna's DNA for the live shows I think this is why she won't bring them back... pawn_shop_blues and BuggedOut 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mden 2,252 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 I think Nikki had a baby. And didn’t want the physical strain of going on another tour. She had a leg injury at the DW T, if I’m not mistaken. But Donna is still interested, I read in an interview. Donna 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendanlovesu1 11,870 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 thank goodnes these glasses were only for one night pawn_shop_blues, BuggedOut, Blue Jean and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuggedOut 4,121 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 1 hour ago, dankpepe said: She wouldn't have done the Super Bowl for 4 years later... For some reason I was thinking that performance was during MDNA. It’s late where I’m at lol dankpepe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekans 903 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 A curious fact. The first “contact” I had with Madonna apart from some hits here and there was watching the S&S Tour torrent I had downloaded when I was like 12. I was very obsessed with the arrangements and when I looked up their studio counterparts (like Vogue, ITG and LAP) I was like “what the hell am I listening to?” - in an extremely disappointed way - because I thought their studio versions would sound like the live mixes, which I adored so much. Oh my innocence. But over time I learned to appreciate everything and became a fan after all. Everything related to S&ST holds a special place in my heart because of that, it’s very nostalgic for me. Donna, BuggedOut, Mden and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dankpepe 1,038 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Brendanlovesu1 said: thank goodnes these glasses were only for one night I think the costumes and themed sections on S&S were the worst. Musically it was cool but Madonna just didn't look good, the pale skin with the bleached hair, the frozen face, that ^ outfit, etc. I did like the LAP mashup, the Frozen mix we got, Vogue, Get Stupid, etc. and that curved screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mden 2,252 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, dankpepe said: I think the costumes and themed sections on S&S were the worst. Musically it was cool but Madonna just didn't look good, the pale skin with the bleached hair, the frozen face, that ^ outfit, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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