Thief of Hearts in Truth Or Dare

[fauxswan 257]

Around 29:17 in the film you can hear the beat for Thief of Hearts. Did anybody else realize this?

[DiegoLCL 5,051]

Yes. I Believe it was dubbed, the original track she was listening can be heard on the workprint version of the movie. (Can't remember which song was, though).

[androiduser 2,446]

never noticed this... is there a story behind this? How would they have the song back then? Or was it edited in 1992 for subsequent releases?

[fauxswan 257]

10 minutes ago, androiduser said:

never noticed this... is there a story behind this? How would they have the song back then? Or was it edited in 1992 for subsequent releases?

That's what I'm wondering myself. It's just an ever so brief snippet, literally about 2 seconds. It honestly sounds like the demo version to me but I'm not quite sure.

[androiduser 2,446]

23 minutes ago, Joan Rivers said:

That's what I'm wondering myself. It's just an ever so brief snippet, literally about 2 seconds. It honestly sounds like the demo version to me but I'm not quite sure.

It's totally unusual, I can't imagine she was working on new music back then, this was spring 1990, and with the tour rehearsals and everything it would need to be a track made in late 1989 or very early 1990. Could it be some house track that was sampled?

@diegolcl said it was dubbed... but again, how would they have the song in 1991 when the movie came out, she wasn't working on Erotica yet? Or was Thief of Hearts one of the first tracks she was working on, so it coexisted with the editing of Truth or Dare?

Thief of Hears has been registered in the copyright catalog on Feb 11 1992, and listed as created in 1991, but I would assume after Truth or Dare came out?

I checked the song credits for the Truth or Dare , Thief of Hearts is not listed.

[Robertthenurse 2,913]

Great. Now I'm gonna have to watch this movie AGAIN 🤣🤣🤣

[Would You Like To Try 8,341]

51 minutes ago, Robertthenurse said:

Great. Now I'm gonna have to watch this movie AGAIN 🤣🤣🤣

Make sure to get your buddy

[Robertthenurse 2,913]

21 minutes ago, Would You Like To Try said:

Make sure to get your buddy

Who lol

[Donna 16,394]

So I watched that particular moment over and over, and while I heard a beat kick in for a split couple seconds, that isn't Thief of Hearts.  In fact, it literally could be anything, and I am assuming it's actually what was playing in the background in the arena at the time she came backstage. For those who are curious, it's the scene right when she walks backstage (in Toronto) and her brother is about to tell her the police are there threatening to arrest her. 

[Drum Dub 1,883]

Hi, I think this was discussed in the past. That snippet in the movie probably is from this 91 Shep mix for Paula. Later he used this concept for the Rain tapes "Old Music" demo for Thief Of Hearts. This is very noticeable at the begining and from 4:48 onwards.:

 

[BuggedOut 4,121]

^To add to that, it was actually released in 1990.

https://www.discogs.com/release/947503-Paula-Abdul-Shut-Up-And-Dance-The-Dance-Mixes
 

It’s definitely what we are hearing.

[Donna 16,394]

39 minutes ago, Drum Dub said:

Hi, I think this was discussed in the past. That snippet in the movie probably is from this 91 Shep mix for Paula. Later he used this concept for the Rain tapes "Old Music" demo for Thief Of Hearts. This is very noticeable at the begining and from 4:48 onwards.:

 

Oh it does sound very much like thia as well, and I see how it resembles Theif of Heart.  I believe this was a 1990 mix though as it was released then. 

[RUADJAI 14,943]

I mean, she knew she was gonna record an album soon, she was probably just listening to beats that Shep made. I don't think it's more complicated than that. 

[Blue Jean 15,214]

She totally had her ear to what Paula was doing. She was major competition at that time.

[deathproof 10,595]

2 hours ago, Blue Jean said:

She totally had her ear to what Paula was doing. She was major competition at that time.

Madonna had to step her game up. Paula had the world in the palm of her hands.

[Honey Little 3,979]

I don’t know him.

[Celebration 1,306]

16 hours ago, androiduser said:

never noticed this... is there a story behind this? How would they have the song back then? Or was it edited in 1992 for subsequent releases?

No. I bought the VHS when it was released, and it played the same snippet.

I even think they showed this clip in some documentary on MTV when the movie was peomoted.
Maybe in Dinner With Madonna..?

[RUADJAI 14,943]

Shut Up and Dance was THE Cassette to have. I wonder if that's why the Immaculate Collection was remixed the way that it was.  🤯

[xpressyourself 143]

16 hours ago, Drum Dub said:

Hi, I think this was discussed in the past. That snippet in the movie probably is from this 91 Shep mix for Paula. Later he used this concept for the Rain tapes "Old Music" demo for Thief Of Hearts. This is very noticeable at the begining and from 4:48 onwards.:

 

Makes sense. It's not out of the ordinary for Shep to re-use elements from his mixes for other songs, like how the remix for Janet Jackson's "Miss You Much" ended up becoming the musical bed for Madonna's "Vogue," albiet in an altered form.

[BuggedOut 4,121]

16 minutes ago, RUADJAI said:

Shut Up and Dance was THE Cassette to have. I wonder if that's why the Immaculate Collection was remixed the way that it was.  🤯

Omg, yes!

The summer of 1990 (I was 12) two cassettes never left my Walkman.

I’m Breathless and Shut Up and Dance.

Such a great remix album!

[fauxswan 257]

17 hours ago, Drum Dub said:

Hi, I think this was discussed in the past. That snippet in the movie probably is from this 91 Shep mix for Paula. Later he used this concept for the Rain tapes "Old Music" demo for Thief Of Hearts. This is very noticeable at the begining and from 4:48 onwards.:

 

THIS IS BRAND NEW INFORMATION TO ME!!! Thank you!!!

[Redha DBL 7,321]

Yeah it's been discussed before. It's Paula's track and yeah, the intro is the same as the 1992 demo of Thief of Hearts.

[Scottyx 8,774]

I musta missed it when it was discussed before so this is great info.

[Pootz333 2,688]

I knew about Miss You Much and Vogue. But not this until today. I LOVE M's vocals/ lyrics on TOH but the production was never my favorite. I thought it sounded a liiiitle dated at the time. And now this makes more sense. I hope we get a clean acapella of it one day so I can hear some insane mixes for it.