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34 minutes ago, Frank said:

Is it official? You know, the blu-ray market in Spain is full of "legal" bootlegs. I can't see any company logo. It's distributed by RESEN and that is not a good sign.

https://ellaboratoriodeldoctorbanner.wordpress.com/2019/02/26/el-paradigma-de-la-pirateria-legal-resen-llamentol-y-cia/

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8 minutes ago, Aiwa08 said:

Is it official? You know, the blu-ray market in Spain is full of "legal" bootlegs. I can't see any company logo. It's distributed by RESEN and that is not a good sign.

https://ellaboratoriodeldoctorbanner.wordpress.com/2019/02/26/el-paradigma-de-la-pirateria-legal-resen-llamentol-y-cia/

Wow I had no idea of all of this.

Can of worms!

Thanks both @Frankand you @Aiwa08for all the info!

Are the extras on the latest "Body Of Evidence" blu-ray worth it? I'm very interested in those but don't even have a Blu-Ray player so :Madonna009:

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1 minute ago, Aiwa08 said:

Be careful. Sometimes these bootleg editions are made with BD-R.

Sincerely, I prefer the official ones, even without the spanish dub. 

Thanks for letting me know. But there's no official Who's That Girl BD, right? I mean there's no other edition...

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5 minutes ago, Prayer said:

The official Full HD 1080p version was released on iTunes a few years ago

I actually have two versions:

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1 minute ago, Frank said:

I actually have two versions:

QGjYGqo.jpg

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Maybe the second one may be the iTunes version. That one was 24 fps for sure, I bought it on iTunes Spain but the language was only Spanish.

Just checked iTunes US and it's only English language there, so who knows where those two come from xd

Time to complain again about how hard to find her movies are now, most of them only on old DVDs. Her lack of presence with her movies on streaming platforms is almost insulting. I'm aware she's not considered as the most gifted actress ever, but all those are part of her legacy anyway.

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2 minutes ago, Prayer said:

Maybe the second one may be the iTunes version. That one was 24 fps for sure, I bought it on iTunes Spain but the language was only Spanish.

Just checked iTunes US and it's only English language there, so who knows where those two come from xd

The 1st one is from Amazon Prime, maybe US? It's just in english. The 2nd one is in french and english i think, don't know where that file comes from XDDD

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1 hour ago, Frank said:

 I also didn't know Body Of Evidence was released as european version, didn't get the US version as it is region A, but just ordered this one:

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which i hope is A/B/C or just B.

All I saw in this post was 'Full Uncut' and now I won't get any work done for the afternoon.

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4 hours ago, Aiwa08 said:

No. And that is the problem. The master could be taken from a streaming site or could be upscaled from a DVD. 

 

4 hours ago, Aiwa08 said:

Is it official? You know, the blu-ray market in Spain is full of "legal" bootlegs. I can't see any company logo. It's distributed by RESEN and that is not a good sign.

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I don't think so.

Resen is the same studio that released the Blu-ray version of Desperately Seeking Susan in Spain, which I own, and its picture quality is just perfect. I can assure that it is neither a DVD upscaled nor a direct digital/streaming copy (you can see all the film grain and zero color-banding or low-bitrate defects), and definitely not recorded on a BD-R.

What is true is that perhaps it is not an official remastering since the picture is not super sharp. For that, they would have to rescan the film reels in 4K and then remaster them, as they do with all the cinema classics. In essence, these Blu-rays that you call "bootleg" contain the most faithful and purest image you can obtain from the current masters (scans), and this has been happening since the early DVDs in the late '90s, and later with the early Blu-rays, in all those titles that do not include the label "New 4K Remastering blah blah blah" which does not mean that they are crude upscales from an old low-definition digital source like the DVD.

Having said that, I'm gonna order my copy.
Thanks for the notice, Frank! :rose:

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I don't think so.

Resen is the same studio that released the Blu-ray version of Desperately Seeking Susan in Spain, which I own, and its picture quality is just perfect. I can assure that it is neither a DVD upscaled nor a direct digital/streaming copy (you can see all the film grain and zero color-banding or low-bitrate defects), and definitely not recorded on a BD-R.

What is true is that perhaps it is not an official remastering since the picture is not super sharp. For that, they would have to rescan the film reels in 4K and then remaster them, as they do with all the cinema classics. In essence, these Blu-rays that you call "bootleg" contain the most faithful and purest image you can obtain from the current masters (scans), and this has been happening since the early DVDs in the late '90s, and later with the early Blu-rays, in all those titles that do not include the label "New 4K Remastering blah blah blah" which does not mean that they are crude upscales from an old low-definition digital source like the DVD.

Having said that, I'm gonna order my copy.
Thanks for the notice, Frank! :rose:

Thanks. I’ve ordered one too!

I was happy with my Spanish copy of Shanghai Surprise on Blu-ray, which also hasn’t appeared anywhere else to my knowledge 

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2 hours ago, wtg1987 said:

Oh I love this film but doubt it will be a great transfer - it need a proper scan by Warner archive who seem to ignore 80s films the last 6 months but I might just buy it anyway as I love it 🥰

Yes!

Every month that Warner Archive announce their lineup, I always hope they will sneak in WHO’s That Girl.

Warner Archive are known for their impeccable transfers.

They seem to be stuck on only releasing really old movies.

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1 hour ago, Bermu said:

 


I don't think so.

Resen is the same studio that released the Blu-ray version of Desperately Seeking Susan in Spain, which I own, and its picture quality is just perfect. I can assure that it is neither a DVD upscaled nor a direct digital/streaming copy (you can see all the film grain and zero color-banding or low-bitrate defects), and definitely not recorded on a BD-R.

What is true is that perhaps it is not an official remastering since the picture is not super sharp. For that, they would have to rescan the film reels in 4K and then remaster them, as they do with all the cinema classics. In essence, these Blu-rays that you call "bootleg" contain the most faithful and purest image you can obtain from the current masters (scans), and this has been happening since the early DVDs in the late '90s, and later with the early Blu-rays, in all those titles that do not include the label "New 4K Remastering blah blah blah" which does not mean that they are crude upscales from an old low-definition digital source like the DVD.

Having said that, I'm gonna order my copy.
Thanks for the notice, Frank! :rose:

You are mixing concepts. A bootleg doesn't mean the worst quality and a BD-R. It means: IT'S NOT AN OFFICIAL RELEASE, SO THEY DON'T USE AN ORIGINAL TRANSFER FROM THE MASTER. Do you want it? Perfect. Buy it. It's your money. And you are buying a """"legal"""" spanish bootleg. End of the story.

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