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In that case they have to shut down the worlwide internet lol

It's difficult to shut down the Internet but it's easy to shut down a site or forum for violating the law.

Please don't post links to new album leaks here because we want this place to last

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Ugh I really feel like Madonna might snatch some Grammy's this time around <3These songs are smart lyrically, danceable, greatly produced...it's just. Literally the best stuff we'be heard from her in a while, except for Back That Up! How can anyone think that's a good song? It's not even good compared to the other demos. It's like an even worse version of Don't Stop. If all of the Pharrell songs sound like I really don't want any of them to make it onto the album.Heartbreak City, The One That Got Away (except for Avicii's sound), Inside Out, S.E.X., Iconic, Hold Tight and the 6 songs are my favs so far I think.Body Shop, Veni Vidi Vici and Holy Water have a lot of potential but I think they need to be reworked a bit.

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Tired of Ageist, Sexist Trolls Bashing Madonna?: Nothing Really Matters (Except Madonna)
A snarky little meteorologist from MN wrote on Twitter, in response to a New York Times write-up about Madonna's sterling new songs, “zzzzz Madonna = irrelevant.†When I challenged him, he clarified that he is gay, a New Yorker and has an Emmy (and you know Daytime Emmys are really hard to come by), therefore...I guess he thinks that makes him an expert.
 
I don't care who likes this or that artist and who doesn't, but I do really have contempt for people like that, little turds who, rather than simply expressing their own opinion, feel the need to try to speak for our entire culture. What ever happened to deciding if you like something based on what it does for you, rather than factoring in its greater popularity? Even if Madonna were one of those artists whose time was long passed, I'd still love her work and be interested in her; I'm a chart geek—or I was until the likes of Nicki Minaj and Taylor Swift could already have five dozen or more charted singles (quick...name 10 each), but I don't let an artist's mainstream success dictate my taste.
 
Why should anyone?
 
All the more galling is the fact that Madonna is unnervingly relevant at 56, 32 years after her first single release. She's still charting all around the world, and—as this piece argues—her status as such is almost wholly unique. You know when an artist becomes inarguably irrelevant? When people don't even bother to argue the point.
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Why Madonna Still Matters

 

Earlier this week, Madonna pulled a Beyoncé by releasing six new tracks off her forthcoming album with no announcement. The move comes after the songs were first leaked, an act the singer called â€œterrorism†and “artistic rape.†The songs, which include the Nicki Minaj collaboration “Bitch, I’m Madonna,†quickly rose to the top of the iTunes charts, holding the top six spots in over 20 countries.

 

While international success is nothing new to Madonna, it’s increasingly against the cultural narrative of her as a leftover of ‘80s detritus. While every female pop artist of the last thirty years owes her a great debt, she’s often portrayed as too old, too eager, or too lacking in the energy and depth that first made her a success. The top listing for Madonna on Urban Dictionary defines the artist as “an extremely talented marketer, who over more than twenty years has excelled in the aggressive selling of an otherwise not particularly desirable product—herself.â€

 

Which is a pretty astonishing summary of a career once lauded as the most influential female role in pop music. Despite her critics, Madonna remains the last and best bastion of the '80s and '90s music. Largely defining the past three decades of pop music, Madonna remains the most emblematic icon for Generation X, the middle child of American culture. Squeezed between the behemoth populations of baby boomers and millennials, GenX knows they need to savor their cultural heritage—hence Madonna’s continued triumph.

 

Fairly or not, Generation X is often tossed between the hedonism of hair metal and the lackluster antipathy of grunge. The legacy of the 1980s as a decade is one of smarm, camp, and a plasticine devotion to novelty—and the music hasn’t fared much better. While grunge was the failed rebellion in the face of ‘80s decadence, Madonna reigned through both eras as a moralistic insurgent in the jungle.

 

She was subdued where metal was boisterous, delicate where hip-hop was stern, and activated where grunge was lazy. She could sit-in on Nightline and debate obscenity as well as she could negotiate an interview with a drunkenCourtney Love. She was the first gay icon to actually embrace gay rights and completely restructure how sexuality is talked about. To this day, she’’s been a consistent lighting rod who loves to be struck, as energized by Nicki Minaj as she is by Pussy Riot.

 

Which makes her a standout among ‘80s icons. While the signs of boomer nostalgia never seem to fade and millennials still hold center stage (for now), the musical icons of Generation X, to paraphrase Neil Young’s famous line, have either burnt out, faded away, or both.

 

Michael Jackson is dead. Chinese Democracy was released—and it sucked. The Foo Fighters are now bigger than Nirvana ever was. The bravado and aggression—the revolutionary excitement—of early rap is now fodder forJimmy Fallon. Even heavy metal, which once shocked with Satanic allusions and sexual deviance, is more likely to host a theme cruise than remind anyone of revolt. The cultural peaks of Generation X’s lifespan are either buried or lost in the fog of ornamental relevance.

 

Even Prince, that mystical warrior of funk and sex, suddenly finds himself fighting the passage of time in a geezer-like manner. He and Madonna seem like natural counterparts; each focused heavily on sexuality, thinning out the borders between genders, ethnicities, and the expectations of a black or female artist. Yet his career and influence wanes as he tries (and fails) to sue his own fans for wanting to buy music in the 21st century.

 

And while one must strain to hear any of Prince’s original ideas survive into the pop music of today, Madonna is scattered through every major act of the last 15 years. If Madonna were to start her career today instead of in 1983, she’d appear to be a mashup of every major artist currently working: The bold iconography of Beyoncé, the feminine lightness of Taylor Swift, the dour theatrics of Lorde, the dancefloor sensibility of Rihanna, the pipes of Ariana Grande, and the artistic extremism of Lady Gaga. Madonna’s influence on American pop music is almost smothering in its totality.

 

One of the biggest factors in this influence is not simply her talent but the context in which she thrived. Looking back from today, it’s hard to imagine a time when the vast majority of the top artists in the world were men. Earlier this year, Billboard celebrated a record five weeks where all of the top five artists on the Hot 100 were women. In their annual ranking of the most powerful musicians, Forbes had three female acts in the top five—with Beyoncé holding the number one spot.

 

As Today's Tom Sclafani once remarked, “before Madonna, most music mega-stars were guy rockers; after her, almost all would be female singers.†In 1983, Madonna entered a world dominated by Michael Jackson, The Police, and the likes of Def Leppard. This was before the golden age of R&B that would bring Whitney Houston and well after the death of disco and its divas. Sure, you had your Cyndi Lauper, your Pat Benatar, your Chaka Kahn. But Madonna reached a superstar status unrivaled by any of her female colleagues.

 

This means she largely built the only framework for the female pop star, fundamentally altering all that comes after her and nearly embarrassing all that came before. In this way, she’s the iPhone of pop stars: not merely succeeding in the market but demolishing and rebuilding the market in their own image.

 

Which is why Generation X won’t let her go. So much of ‘80s and early ‘90s culture was built on self-gratification and a tendency towards the absurd. Madonna is the only performer still standing after that torrent of selfishness, that epoch of pointless grandiosity. She’s the last lighthouse ushering GenXers in from an existential sea, offering merely the opportunity for an identity not built on the dead or disgraced. 

 

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Ugh I really feel like Madonna might snatch some Grammy's this time around <3These songs are smart lyrically, danceable, greatly produced...it's just. Literally the best stuff we'be heard from her in a while, except for Back That Up!How can anyone think that's a good song? It's not even good compared to the other demos. It's like an even worse version of Don't Stop. If all of the Pharrell songs sound like I really don't want any of them to make it onto the album.Heartbreak City, The One That Got Away (except for Avicii's sound), Inside Out, S.E.X., Iconic, Hold Tight and the 6 songs are my favs so far I think.Body Shop, Veni Vidi Vici and Holy Water have a lot of potential but I think they need to be reworked a bit.

 

I totally agree with what you said about the songs.

 

However, I listen to Veni Vidi Vici a lot, I find it very catchy and cool. Yet, at the same time I'm not sure how much I actually enjoy a song where Madonna is just referencing her past hits and declaring what she's done, I'd rather she sing about what she's doing, if that makes sense.

 

S.E.X is extremely well done and I hope it's on the album.

 

But as for Holy Water, I honestly don't see what people love about this song? The production is unique and all but wtf is she singing in that style for? It's very unsettling to me.

 

And I don't see people talking much about them but in my opinion, Best Night and Nothing Lasts Forever have the most potential.

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I agree. If there are several editions of the album I'd love for it to appear on at least one of them.

idk if that will ever happen, but on the subject of editions, I would really love if she did a limited edition of Rebel Heart! MDNA didn't get one, maybe Interscope doesn't care? But I love them of course and I don't want HC to be the last album with a limited edition.

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idk if that will ever happen, but on the subject of editions, I would really love if she did a limited edition of Rebel Heart! MDNA didn't get one, maybe Interscope doesn't care? But I love them of course and I don't want HC to be the last album with a limited edition.

 

I was surprised MDNA didn't get a limited edition because it seems like more and more artists are doing that with each album. Hopefully they do one with Rebel Heart!

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Madonna Glorifies Illuminati in New Song & Blasphemes, Calling The All Seeing Eye 'Truth and Light' 
In this day and age the illuminati is popularly associated to people in power who use evil and witchcraft to advance, but according to pop icon Madonna's and her new song the illuminati is a good thing and she is happy to be apart of it.
 
The singer released a song this month titled "Illuminati" in which she names all of her celebrity peers that have been linked to the elite group. The singer explained that those people are not illuminati but instead the All Seeing Eye is truth and light. Truth and Light are both words associated to Jesus in the Bible and in the context of the song; really do not make sense unless the singer has another message for her listeners.
 
In a recent Facebook post along with a picture displaying just one of her eyes Madonna tells people she is grateful that they call her a member of the illuminati. "Thank you for the compliment! ‪#‎knowledgeispower #rebelheart ‪#‎illuminati," she wrote.
 
Likewise in a recent interview the singer explained in detail what she thought about the Illuminati. "I think there are some people who don't mind being referred to as that, but I know who the real Illuminati are, and where that word came from," she said, "The root of the word is "illuminate", and that means "The enlightened ones", and it came from the Age of Enlightenment, when a lot of arts and creativity flourished, from Shakespeare to Isaac Newton, to Leonardo Da Vinci, Michelangelo: the philosophers, artists, scientists were all engaged in a kind of high level of consciousness through their work, and they were enlightening and inspiring people around the world."
 
"Those are the true Illuminati," she continued, "So the purpose for writing that song was really in a way, 'So, if you think I'm the Illuminati, then thank you very much, a compliment, because I would like very much to be part of that group, the real Illuminati, and this is what it's not'".
 
According to the comments on the songs YouTube video people are outraged with the new song because they believe it's a ploy to deceptively trick people. According to VigilantCitizen.com Madonna "as grand priestess of the music business and pawn of the elite," needs to contribute to the ongoing disinformation effort. The Vigilant Citizen site also provides detailed information on the history illuminati, read http://vigilantcitizen.com/hidden-knowledge/the-order-of-the-illuminati/
 
Do you think Madonna is misleading people with her new song "Illuminati" or is it all in fact conspiracy theories leave your comments below.
 
Read the lyrics for "Illuminati" below:
 
It's not Jay-Z and Beyoncé;
It's not Nicki or Lil Wayne;
It's not Oprah and Obama, the Pope and Rihanna;
Queen Elizabeth, or Kanye.
 
It's not pentagrams or witchcraft;
It's not triangles or stacks of cash;
Black magic or Gaga, Gucci or Prada
Riding on the Golden Calf.
 
The all-seeing eye is watching tonight,
That's what it is: Truth in the Light.
The all-seeing eye is watching tonight,
Nothing to hide, secrets in sight.
It's like everybody in this party's
Shining like Illuminati. (Oh-wo-oh-oh-wo-oh-oh...)
It's like everybody in this party's
Shining like Illuminati. (Oh-wo-oh-oh-wo-oh-oh...)
It's the Enlightenment that started it all;
 
The Founding Fathers wrote it down on a wall,
And now the Media's misleading us all:
"Turn right, and turn wrong."
It's time to dance and turn this dark into somethin';
 
So let the fire burn, this music is bumpin'.
We're gonna live forever, love never dies,
It starts tonight...
Rihanna don't know the New World Order;
 
It's not platinum-encrypted commerce;
It's not Isis or the Phoenix;
The Pyramids of Egypt;
Don't make it into something sordid.
 
It's not Steve Jobs or Bill Gates;
It's not the Google of United States;
It's not Bieber or Lebron, Clinton, or a bomb;
Or anyone you love to hate.
 
The all-seeing eye is watching tonight,
That's what it is: Truth in the Light.
The all-seeing eye is watching tonight,
Nothing to hide, secrets in sight.
It's like everybody in this party's
Shining like Illuminati. (Oh-wo-oh-oh-wo-oh-oh...)
It's like everybody in this party's
Shining like Illuminati. (Oh-wo-oh-oh-wo-oh-oh...)
You know that everything that glitters ain't gold;
So let the music take you out of control,
It's time to feel it in your body and soul:
 
Come on, let's go...
We're gonna dance and turn the dark into somethin';
So let the fire burn, this music is bumpin'.
We're gonna live forever, love never dies,
It starts tonight...
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