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Oh puh-lease you're the last person to be saying that. Whether it was asking if my penis was small or weird micro aggressions and your little jabs, YOU are not the one to be calling me out. Also re-read what i said. I said your lil one liner was a bitchy gay not well thought out reply. Now, whether you're a little bitch in real life, idk idc that's a YOU problem, not a me problem. All I really care about is how you approach me and anytime you come at me with respect, i do reply civil. When you dont like that reply, then no...I'm not gonna be sunshine and roses for you. Also i will also say, if I ever go too far or feel what I've said is too much I am ALWAYS going to be messaging that person in private apologizing. Now that this has gone off on a tangent, when Adonna was really offended by me saying something about old fans dying I messaged them to personally apologize. Of course I didnt realize they were nuts and a big liar, but I am ALWAYS admitting when I mess up. YOU on the other hand say stuff that may be throw away comments to you but I personally find you not nice at all. Take that however you wanna take it. Anyway, I'm not manic. Lol

I mean it's all hearsay but I remember people being shocked that madonna performed for the met gala

Yeah and i mentioned all the promo and the counter argument about her being inspired. And cmon now!

Yeah it does, you saying ThErES a FaCt for you is very indicative of that narrative. Also, since you edited your original post, guess what? Rebel Heart and MX failed too. While artists like Gaga and Katy were having their interviews, performances, etc being uploaded to Youtube, Madonna wasnt. Times changed and people were watching things at a later date online. I mean did ANY of the traditional promo do anything for those albums? No.

Nah. That's just a bitchy gay one-liner that doesnt have any merit other than being a quip. She was obviously inspired to know she was NOT going to work with RedOne despite her label wanting her to. She was also going to work with Diagram of the Heart going to their gigs and it didnt work out only because the two members started having issues and broke up. Deadmau5 was also someone else that she rejected which is probably why he held such a grudge against her. Nervo also submitted things, RichardX and his partner Luciana, Cerderic Gervais, even Avicii among countless others. If all she was doing was slapping something together she wouldn't have gone out of her way to select Martin Solveig, Benassi (which was a given since she loved his remix for Celebration) and Orbit. The making of the album wasnt this radical disconnected thing that bitchy fans like to perpetuate. If anything that was Rebel Heart. That was the first time she really complained about how producers no longer needed her in the studio and how sloppy they all were sending her tracks back that were literally missing stems. Madame X as well which why that is such a patchwork album. MDNA is literally the last album she made in a traditional way.

Yeah but look how much that traditional promo helped. I mean it's mind boggling how fans have this amnesia. The promo for MX was Mtv...in 2019. And it doesn't matter if it's a whole album or not because regardless those became her biggest hits. Fans cherry pick their own facts or alternative facts. Madonna fans absolutely are the worst when getting with the times and rewriting history and ignoring context.

Orbit went on gushing about her on the EPK and of course there's the infamous story about Gang Bang where she totally changed it behind his back. Then once it flopped, that's when all of a sudden his tune changed. He totally defended her saying how involved she was when arguing against Elton John on his own facebook. Let's also get facts straight because ALOT of her fan favorites and most of her albums have had songs that were already existing demos. Holiday, Open Your Heart, Papa Don't Preach, Ray of Light, Don't Tell me, i mean the list can go on and on. Doesn't mean she wasnt engaged with them and retooled them the way she did for MDNA. As for Confessions promo, its funny how it's forgotten how fans complained saying they wanted more! Things also drastically changed in those short years between 2005 and 2012 and how promo is done. Promo was already transitioning to online/social media like how she did the live stream for jimmy fallon, or that DJ set at Ultra. She even premiered a snippet of the video for GMAYL on American Idol and GGW on E! News. The Superbowl worked the same way the EMAs did for Hung Up. There was also huge radio deals premiering the song and with Perez Hilton premiering the album with snippets. Times had changed in 2012 so context is absolutely important. She wasn't going to do all these talk shows, she wasn't going to do all these specials for Mtv and VH1 or TRL because times CHANGED. she even did the whole twitter Q&A stuff. Everything was already shifting to online and viral promo.

Then that's just the fanbase trying to rearrange the narrative. Happens all the time. She even posted she was "in the mood to dance" when announcing she was going to go back to the studio in 2011. Also the whole "not engaged" narrative is dumb because she was even busier during confessions editing the doc and the unreleased RIT dvd and writing childrens books and 2 musicals using alot of the leftovers for the album. The only difference was social media was a thing during MDNA so the negativity was even louder. She also prioritized the confessions tour over album promo which is why the videos were lacking. When it came to Hard Candy fans also said she only made the album so she could have a tour but the music industry changed so much in those few years that touring was a NECESSITY. MDNA just always got the short end of the stick and used as a scapegoat and whipping boy for whatever vendetta people have against her, fans included.

Yeah surprised it wasn't Meisel...btw i wonder if she'll ever do the cover again. I've always heard the rumor Anna hates her so i wonder what happened?

Too bad Madonna has never had an amazing Vogue cover. Even the one for Erotica isnt very impressive despite other great images from that shoot.

I need an angry react

I just wanna hear Can't You See My Mind? before i die...please. My Ejector as well.

Because MDNA was that record. Remember, the criticism of MDNA was that it was not serious and EDM. In 2010 fans BEGGED for an album like Flesh Tone and they got it with MDNA. Even all the catholic imagery was very much the "old classic madonna" fans wanted back. Gone were the Kaballaah references. Cut to fans all of sudden saying it was too pop not serious, no more features etc too slutty we need a mature look give us the REAL "old classic madonna". What does she do? Give us an old school La Isla Bonita/Take a Bow moment with a 90s house SOLO track that could've easily been a new song off Immaculate Collection following Vogue or even Erotica's dance songs. Then the moment fans heard Ghosttown YES SERIOUS MATURE MAKE IT A SINGLE. Flop. So what does she do? Release the song all the fans hated (Not me) that had her dressed in Moschino being totally slutty and tacky but HIP and trendy with a hyper-pop trap song. It actually began to rise with the Jimmy Fallon performance alone. Just ONE performance did what all those boring fan approved performances didnt do. Fans still hate it and don't want to admit that that was the song that could've been a big hit for her like i said is STILL streaming well. For Madame X im sorry but look back at posts and old comments GIVE US SOMETHING MATURE NOT MAINSTREAM! GO BACK TO SOMETHING GREAT LIKE AMERICAN LIFE! so what does she do? Hook up with Mirwais. The anticipation was IMMENSE. Even that ugly Moirs Rose wig was praised. Everyone wanted an American Life moment except they forgot American Life is the whole reason she's had the missteps she's had. Rant over. 😅

See this is where i disagree and have mentioned it before...she's reading the comments and it gives her a warped perception. Fans wanted something serious like American Life and wanted her to go dark again and she did. Even with Rebel Heart, fans bitched about features so we got Living for Love then fans creamed themselves over a dusty ol ballad Ghosttown so she switched plans and made that the follow up. What a surprise, both flopped and the ones the fans hated BIM was the only one to chart and still gets good streams. My advice to her (pff as if she'd care much less take it), do NOT read comments. Do NOT listen to fans. Do what feels organic and do not feel you have to live up to old incarnations.

Somebody Shazamed it and it's another artist! But you know, Stuart is very versatile so it could easily be a more alt-poprock vibe which i definitely wouldn't be mad at! Check out his band Zoot Woman!