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For very fuck sake....the freebies some will have access to are more new and unique than the product...but of course fans wont get access to that. The team are utterly useless. For a tote bag l would reorder the product.

There's obviously truth to it - and there's always two sides to every story, and then somewhere in the middle is the truth of it all.
We do know Madonna does keep people and fans waiting without any care - hello her tours.
But, we also know she's a very hard working, dedicated and loyal mum - ALL of her children are very close to her, yes they've had falling outs, but they seem very well rounded, supported and loved. Everyone also has different parenting styles - Madonna clearly was and maybe still is is very strict.

Or maybe Madonna’s charming habit of belittling her own children in private and in front of friends and coworkers is just one of her lesser-known personality quirks. Maybe it's something that basically happened A LOT and has been whispered about for, well, decades now. Maybe she did it to hubby #2 and that was one of the main causes for them divorcing. Maybe that's even written in their divorce papers which were obtained eons ago by several UK journalists and by some fans.
Who’s to say?
Perhaps the world would be absolutely shocked to read the unredacted version of an interview she gave just a few years ago - one where she eviscerated her two eldest kids with such flair that her lawyers had to threaten legal Armageddon unless the whole thing was edited to death for publication or thrown into oblivion.
But hey, who can really know?
Maybe the story about her fallout with Gwyneth Paltrow is actually spot-on and utterly unsurprising to anyone close to "the circle". Maybe it’s old news since Chris Ciccone (RIP) already spilled the tea years ago over and over about this, took Gwyneth’s side, and called his sister’s behavior "undignified and disgusting" and even mentionned Madonna having a major argument with her dad and stepmom over this about 15 years ago.
Who knows ? It's all earsay anyways.

What pisses me more is the July 25 date and the fact that there are no digital bonus tracks - the 2 full Skin and Sky Fits Heaven remixes would be fun

I feel they didn't even explore the possibilities (well we know they didn't), the intern picked some edits

Lets hope so but my feel is its cancelled, they still have no clue how to harness the power of Madonna.

I feel they didn't even explore the possibilities (well we know they didn't), the intern picked some edits

I feel they cut it short - a 20 track album of edits would have been better maybe add Revenge
Fans could make a vikram, kruder and for Ray Of Light the Ultra Violet edit, but nothing else really - 20 track album would have been easy had they added edits for all tracks who don't have it

I hear you, yeah this VE project is a little (much) underwhelming

I am happy with good songs with a classic M melody and hook that are not too in the moment trends, MX was amazing but a little rushed at the end and some fusion just did not work for harmonious album but we got some great songs and visuals, esp Dark Ballet, Crazy.
Only expectation is quality, which is why the VE project is so underwhelming and a bad indicator for legacy releases

Well .. no
For example, I think Madame X songs are great and her strongest ones since COADF. But fans have been bitching about Madonna's last albums being too commercial (HC, MDNA, RL) for years and as soon as she's got a freedom to release an (non-commercial) album SHE wanted .. half of you are constantly complaining. And now we want her to be fun and dancey and commercial again. Vicious circle.

why do people still give a shit about streaming numbers and think she is going to get her numbers up as per taylor swift and gaga who are half her age and have millions more fans than M now who is mostly seen as joke by the "young generation "??? this release was about the laziest thing she could come up with after nearly 4 years since this mirage (sorry campaign ) was announced and all she could be bothered to release was a demo thats been around for 15 years - maybe in 10 years we will get our revenge ? its quite obvious now that we arent getting any expanded releases if all she can do is throw this crap at us.....

Imagine: if a proper BS / untold chapter with 1/2 unheard tracks, how POWERFUL Shep's demos like "Something's coming over" or "Bring it" would have been.... THAT would have been exciting! And streamed to death by fans!

I dont think we are being unsuferable at all. We are sick of being fed crumbs when there is a wealth of material that is sitting in the vault. No one cares about badly edited remixes or demos that have been leaked for over 20 years. It's a cash grab at its finest and as usual people buy when they should use their heads and hold off from buying to make a point that laziness is not the way to make money from fans. I don't mean that disrespectfully to those that have bought it btw you do you. I just think one can only make a point if everyone stands up and holds them accountable for this ill conceived release.

I think had they released an actual unleaked track it would have done better- Gone Gone Gone has been around for decades - fans have streamed it for 20 years, downloaded it for 20 years lol

Gone Gone Gone is readily available on the internet if her team got their act together and actually released unreleased material and promoted it effectively it would no doubt debut with stronger steaming figures.

Only 202 pages and its now July, that's restraint. Well done infinitians

Interesting release strategy, proving they still have no strategy tailored at all for Madonna releases 😂 The intern got tapped to get a quick Vinyl release together.
This one is really sloppy from a real fans perspective because its bastardised and Kardashianized the VE concept that has been more an artistic vision, they decided to monetize that as a lazy existing remix and disrespected the art and musical substance of it.
I've heard it now l can cancel my pre order

Interesting release strategy, proving they still have no strategy tailored at all for Madonna releases 😂 The intern got tapped to get a quick Vinyl release together.
This one is really sloppy from a real fans perspective because its bastardised and Kardashianized the VE concept that has been more an artistic vision, they decided to monetize that as a lazy existing remix and disrespected the art and musical substance of it.
I've heard it now l can cancel my pre order

Interesting release strategy, proving they still have no strategy tailored at all for Madonna releases 😂 The intern got tapped to get a quick Vinyl release together.
This one is really sloppy from a real fans perspective because its bastardised and Kardashianized the VE concept that has been more an artistic vision, they decided to monetize that as a lazy existing remix and disrespected the art and musical substance of it.
I've heard it now l can cancel my pre order

Madonna or her team will give you nothing or lowball you for it!
Sell sell sell!!

Interesting release strategy, proving they still have no strategy tailored at all for Madonna releases 😂 The intern got tapped to get a quick Vinyl release together.
This one is really sloppy from a real fans perspective because its bastardised and Kardashianized the VE concept that has been more an artistic vision, they decided to monetize that as a lazy existing remix and disrespected the art and musical substance of it.
I've heard it now l can cancel my pre order

I think she has good taste.....this time.....

Interesting release strategy, proving they still have no strategy tailored at all for Madonna releases 😂 The intern got tapped to get a quick Vinyl release together.
This one is really sloppy from a real fans perspective because its bastardised and Kardashianized the VE concept that has been more an artistic vision, they decided to monetize that as a lazy existing remix and disrespected the art and musical substance of it.
I've heard it now l can cancel my pre order

I hate being a debby downer but if an AI remaster of the same demo (which we got in WAV too, btw) that we have since the early 2000s is what is supposed to make me excited, then we are not in the same boat.
Anyways moving on, just sharing my two cents.