Husam Elzien

Both - cold and hard to read but no less true.
As a artist who makes the top 10 of multiple countrys with her latest single (what ever that may be) she is done, its over.
I ask anyone rteading my comments to do so while remembering that I am as big a fan as anyone on here but I am also a realist.
 
As many have already said on this thread her way forward is her back catalogue and its rightful place in music history.
She may not like it but in this sense she is a living breathing genuinely historic artist with a body of hits that no one will ever match.
 
 

Honestly, I think her disdain of deeply revisiting her past has now reached a point of backfiring. In the politics of women in music, Madonna managed to maintain relevancy chart wise well past the "expiration" years because she still had killer hits and the appeal to back her up. But there was a shift in her public persona that started during MDNA where some of the things she said or did for shock-value or controversy came across as desperate and/or an attempt to keep up with Katy, Gaga, Beyonce, Rihanna and Taylor who all blew up in the four years (minus Beyonce) in between HC and MDNA . It's also worth noting that she was 53-54 during that era and was at an age where most artists would've been begun to transition into a legacy act that was more reliant on keeping up long term relevancy by embracing their past and introducing a younger generation to it. But Madonna kept going, kept pushing to stay apart of the present and not be a relic of the past and that kind of backfired. MDNA was kind of an aggressive era and an aggressive Madonna and that probably turned off a whole generation of younger people that she could've won over after the Super Bowl performance. In contrast to her other semi- divorce album, Like a Prayer, Madonna did not seem to handle her divorce to Guy as well as she did the one to Sean and it rubbed people the wrong way. RH and Madame X are better bodies of work but I think she should've done some legacy rebuilding before putting out more material because it's actually painful that those albums only got attention from a fanbase that's clearly running out of patience with her. Madonna unfortunately has to be very careful with her career moves and statements now because certain things she could do and get away with in her 20s, 30s and 40s and barely get away with in her 50s probably won't go down well in her 60s and 70s.

Honestly, I think her disdain of deeply revisiting her past has now reached a point of backfiring. In the politics of women in music, Madonna managed to maintain relevancy chart wise well past the "expiration" years because she still had killer hits and the appeal to back her up. But there was a shift in her public persona that started during MDNA where some of the things she said or did for shock-value or controversy came across as desperate and/or an attempt to keep up with Katy, Gaga, Beyonce, Rihanna and Taylor who all blew up in the four years (minus Beyonce) in between HC and MDNA . It's also worth noting that she was 53-54 during that era and was at an age where most artists would've been begun to transition into a legacy act that was more reliant on keeping up long term relevancy by embracing their past and introducing a younger generation to it. But Madonna kept going, kept pushing to stay apart of the present and not be a relic of the past and that kind of backfired. MDNA was kind of an aggressive era and an aggressive Madonna and that probably turned off a whole generation of younger people that she could've won over after the Super Bowl performance. In contrast to her other semi- divorce album, Like a Prayer, Madonna did not seem to handle her divorce to Guy as well as she did the one to Sean and it rubbed people the wrong way. RH and Madame X are better bodies of work but I think she should've done some legacy rebuilding before putting out more material because it's actually painful that those albums only got attention from a fanbase that's clearly running out of patience with her. Madonna unfortunately has to be very careful with her career moves and statements now because certain things she could do and get away with in her 20s, 30s and 40s and barely get away with in her 50s probably won't go down well in her 60s and 70s.

Cherish
White Heat or Now I'm Following You?

She had to stay up until 3am because even on dvd the show started late  

Found it! Geez, that host IS cheesy lol... he says that M "tried to stop this broadcast, even though she herself has a problem with censorship" 

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Cherish
White Heat or Now I'm Following You?

Drowned World
Holy Water or Gang Bang?

Dark Ballet cost $2 for the coffee Madonna was having whilst it was being filmed on her phone by the twins.

Madame X said fuck epileptics.
 

my country Canada not Bad.

I wonder if she’s laid down her vocals yet? was she recording them yesterday? 
#Sticky&SweetTour coming right up 

She probably does but she doesn't care because she thinks we'll keep waiting... for her. Just waiting. I think the issue is interest probably would hold amongst everyone, not just die hards if she wasn't plastering her life all over Instagram. Like in the 90s and early 00s if there was a large gap between projects, people would be on the edge of their seats because they didn't know what was happening behind the scenes so there would be a belief that she was spending most of that time working. But now, we see her in milk baths, and with her kids and the boy toy almost every day so it's like, "ok girl we get it, finish this for us and then you go back to living your life. "  
Also, her last three DVD releases all had a year gap between filming and release but Confessions only had a five month turnaround between filming, editing and releasing. Actually two-three months because NBC aired it during Thanksgiving that same year. They wrapped that show and hit the editing bay. What happened to that speed? Maybe NBC had a say on final edit and she wasn't interested in going back and doing a re- edit?

She probably does but she doesn't care because she thinks we'll keep waiting... for her. Just waiting. I think the issue is interest probably would hold amongst everyone, not just die hards if she wasn't plastering her life all over Instagram. Like in the 90s and early 00s if there was a large gap between projects, people would be on the edge of their seats because they didn't know what was happening behind the scenes so there would be a belief that she was spending most of that time working. But now, we see her in milk baths, and with her kids and the boy toy almost every day so it's like, "ok girl we get it, finish this for us and then you go back to living your life. "  
Also, her last three DVD releases all had a year gap between filming and release but Confessions only had a five month turnaround between filming, editing and releasing. Actually two-three months because NBC aired it during Thanksgiving that same year. They wrapped that show and hit the editing bay. What happened to that speed? Maybe NBC had a say on final edit and she wasn't interested in going back and doing a re- edit?

Then 6 months + makes sense. Excessive editing is a Madonna tour DVD's best friend.

I'm hoping she doesn't do "arena" editing for a theatre show. It would be hard to get into the intimate feel of the show with multiple cuts, high levels of audience noise and overly produced flashing imagery. 

Then 6 months + makes sense. Excessive editing is a Madonna tour DVD's best friend.

please be in 4K please be in 4K please be in 4K please be in 4k please be in 4K please be in 4K please be in 4K
 
*I typed all that (and this) with one hand because I'm eating ketchup chips 

Then 6 months + makes sense. Excessive editing is a Madonna tour DVD's best friend.

Omg thats really how long editing takes? 6 months? Like if someone works on it everyday?

I'm hoping she doesn't do "arena" editing for a theatre show. It would be hard to get into the intimate feel of the show with multiple cuts, high levels of audience noise and overly produced flashing imagery. 

Although it seems another life, remember she has been touring for the first three months of 2020. Lockdown and surgery followed.

1. Like A Prayer
2. Erotica
3. Ray of Light
 
 
 

Promise to Try
Unapologetic Bitch or Human Nature?