Single Reissues Campaign - Open Your Heart (incl. Remix/Edit!) OUT 19/11/2024

[planetbenjamin 275]

12 minutes ago, RyanUK said:

Blond Ambition in Paris is one of the holy grail items for me. They claim that the whole show wasn’t filmed, only the performances that they intended to show in Truth or Dare. I find that kind of hard to believe, but who knows. 

I've spoken to several of the film crew over the years and they all confirmed that all the Paris shows were filmed in full. It's a lie that they didn't film the complete shows. The lie was fuelled by one of the producers who was tasked with locating the film reels/tapes. They haven't found them yet so they falsely claimed that the shows weren't filmed. Maybe to cover their own back?

I've never shared this, but here are some comments from a discussion I had we Toby Phillips, the cinematographer:

It was three shows in Paris and we filmed all three in full, moving the cameras to different positions for each night.

We didn’t shoot anything that wasn’t “live”.

We used 3200 Kelvin stock and I’m pretty sure it was Kodak 5296 (500T)

There was a complete rig set-up for audience lighting.

Primarily we reduced the intensity of side lights crossing the stage to eliminate harsh shadows.  Controlling levels of some lights in various scenes so that there wasn’t massive overexposure / underexposure.  Otherwise I thought that the design had a great theatrical feel to it.  The follow spots on Madonna were put in different positions than normal (per my request) and had a light pink and softening gel added.  Each of the two follow spots was set carefully to be at the level required for each song and not to change so that there was never a need to change exposure on the cameras during the show.  This also required the very best follow spot operators, as there wasn’t a “hard edge” to the spots with the added gels, so hard to see if it was “on”.

Like many commercial jobs, the negative often sits somewhere for a very long time and not with the “owner”.  In this case I would assume that Madonna was the owner, as she funded the project.  Propaganda as the production company would have been responsible for protecting the assets.  The Post Group / LA is where we did the color correction over a couple of weeks.

I would think that the Post Group would be the first place to start when looking for the original negative.  However, because the film was “cut” to make the master print for the movie, the negative could have moved to another editorial company for that.

 

[wtg1987 10,945]

Dont get me started on BA and why it STILL has not had an official release post laserdiscs from 1990 !! considering how iconic it was/is and that it created the blue print for modern concert format-when they announced the campaign 3 years ago i thought this meant we would finally get some official live content (maybe bundled in with expanded releases as Prince estate have done) and NOTHING !! all people care about is those friggin DAD dubs instead like they were high art remixes ....

[Erotico 609]

I would love to see the nights David Fincher shooted the BA  in Tokyo, especially the one under the rain! 

[Aiwa08 19,546]

17 minutes ago, wtg1987 said:

Dont get me started on BA and why it STILL has not had an official release post laserdiscs from 1990 !! considering how iconic it was/is and that it created the blue print for modern concert format-when they announced the campaign 3 years ago i thought this meant we would finally get some official live content (maybe bundled in with expanded releases as Prince estate have done) and NOTHING !! all people care about is those friggin DAD dubs instead like they were high art remixes ....

Let me tell you something amazing: asking for the 'DAD' dubs or the fade of 'Jimmy Jimmy' does NOT mean or prevent them from releasing 'BAT' on DVD. In fact, we've been asking for 'BAT' on DVD for 30 years straight. We've only been asking for the dubs, remixes, and edits for one year since the streaming singles campaign started.

[RyanUK 375]

2 hours ago, planetbenjamin said:

I've spoken to several of the film crew over the years and they all confirmed that all the Paris shows were filmed in full. It's a lie that they didn't film the complete shows. The lie was fuelled by one of the producers who was tasked with locating the film reels/tapes. They haven't found them yet so they falsely claimed that the shows weren't filmed. Maybe to cover their own back?

I've never shared this, but here are some comments from a discussion I had we Toby Phillips, the cinematographer:

It was three shows in Paris and we filmed all three in full, moving the cameras to different positions for each night.

We didn’t shoot anything that wasn’t “live”.

We used 3200 Kelvin stock and I’m pretty sure it was Kodak 5296 (500T)

There was a complete rig set-up for audience lighting.

Primarily we reduced the intensity of side lights crossing the stage to eliminate harsh shadows.  Controlling levels of some lights in various scenes so that there wasn’t massive overexposure / underexposure.  Otherwise I thought that the design had a great theatrical feel to it.  The follow spots on Madonna were put in different positions than normal (per my request) and had a light pink and softening gel added.  Each of the two follow spots was set carefully to be at the level required for each song and not to change so that there was never a need to change exposure on the cameras during the show.  This also required the very best follow spot operators, as there wasn’t a “hard edge” to the spots with the added gels, so hard to see if it was “on”.

Like many commercial jobs, the negative often sits somewhere for a very long time and not with the “owner”.  In this case I would assume that Madonna was the owner, as she funded the project.  Propaganda as the production company would have been responsible for protecting the assets.  The Post Group / LA is where we did the color correction over a couple of weeks.

I would think that the Post Group would be the first place to start when looking for the original negative.  However, because the film was “cut” to make the master print for the movie, the negative could have moved to another editorial company for that.

 

Thank you for this. I had a feeling the whole show would have been filmed. Didn’t she post a picture of her finding some footage from Truth or Dare a few years back? Perhaps they have finally found the light of day? Paris, I would assume, would have to be a full re-edit to make it into a full show, but this could be done easily. 
 

 

[BADonna 27,212]

1 hour ago, RyanUK said:

Thank you for this. I had a feeling the whole show would have been filmed. Didn’t she post a picture of her finding some footage from Truth or Dare a few years back? Perhaps they have finally found the light of day? Paris, I would assume, would have to be a full re-edit to make it into a full show, but this could be done easily. 
 

 

Yeah, she posted pics of herself in a warehouse going through archives from Blond Ambition tour as well showing some reels of Truth or Dare. I tried to google the images, but all I can find images from this time. Though, I thought there was another time before this where she actually showed some reels?

[scamper 2,124]

6 hours ago, planetbenjamin said:

I've spoken to several of the film crew over the years and they all confirmed that all the Paris shows were filmed in full. It's a lie that they didn't film the complete shows. The lie was fuelled by one of the producers who was tasked with locating the film reels/tapes. They haven't found them yet so they falsely claimed that the shows weren't filmed. Maybe to cover their own back?

 

I think the same... I remember an interview with Alek Keshishian published on a Spanish magazine (I can't remember if it was "Fotogramas" or others that doesn't exists anymore and he said that the concert was filmed in full. Years later they started with the "we have to find the reels" and even later the "We didn't recorded the show in full". In ten years from now maybe they'll say "I don't remember Madonna went on tour in 1990. "Truth or dare" must be an AI movie made by fans" :P

 

[Madonnino 6]

7 hours ago, Adonna said:

Yeah, she posted pics of herself in a warehouse going through archives from Blond Ambition tour as well showing some reels of Truth or Dare. I tried to google the images, but all I can find images from this time. Though, I thought there was another time before this where she actually showed some reels?

Here they are

https://www.instagram.com/p/CrbeUmwO55n/?igsh=MWdjb2lxMHBwOWhrdA==

[BADonna 27,212]

8 minutes ago, Madonnino said:

Here they are

https://www.instagram.com/p/CrbeUmwO55n/?igsh=MWdjb2lxMHBwOWhrdA==

Ahhh thanks!  So they were from the same time. Thank you!! 

Here is the specific pic of of what I'm assuming are the reels from TOD...

[Would You Like To Try 10,397]

So I think we all know that Open Your Heart is not coming any time soon?

[Boombox90 7,456]

10 hours ago, wtg1987 said:

Dont get me started on BA and why it STILL has not had an official release post laserdiscs from 1990 !! considering how iconic it was/is and that it created the blue print for modern concert format-when they announced the campaign 3 years ago i thought this meant we would finally get some official live content (maybe bundled in with expanded releases as Prince estate have done) and NOTHING !! all people care about is those friggin DAD dubs instead like they were high art remixes ....

Look at MJ

they don’t have a single Single EP of his streaming

 

not sure what’s going on with these legacy artists

[cabbageboy 262]

45 minutes ago, Boombox90 said:

Look at MJ

they don’t have a single Single EP of his streaming

 

not sure what’s going on with these legacy artists

Prince is similar, limited singles/EPs on streaming. Same with Janet, Whitney etc. Considering, Madonna's output is amazing!

[Boombox90 7,456]

9 minutes ago, cabbageboy said:

Prince is similar, limited singles/EPs on streaming. Same with Janet, Whitney etc. Considering, Madonna's output is amazing!

Janet has a lot of her singles streaming.

Rhythm Nation is pretty much all there, mix wise, Janet. has a few things but very limited mixes per single, Control is completely lacking.

[Would You Like To Try 10,397]

So I accepted that Die another day is not coming anytime soon it seems! Let's just conform with the Deepsky Dub and Brother Brown vinyl rips forever I guess 

[DoneGone 17,437]

According to PopJustice:

Like A Virgin (2024 Remaster) - Single coming at midnight:

01. Like A Virgin (2024 Remaster)

02. Stay (2024 Remaster)

Will be interesting to see if it's similar to the "Material Girl" 2024 remaster or actually better.

[Bradley 1,090]

Out now here in New Zealand. No extended remix, bizarrely.

[BLUE JEAN 20,913]

No blanket??!!!

[Karma 3,203]

 

It seems they uploaded the album instead of the single on Apple Music

https://music.apple.com/nz/artist/madonna/20044/see-all?section=singles

[DoneGone 17,437]

1 minute ago, Karma said:

 

It seems they uploaded the album instead of the single on Apple Music

https://music.apple.com/nz/artist/madonna/20044/see-all?section=singles

I think this is Apple Music usual internal f**kery. It also happened with the "Like A Prayer" single at first, when they have the same title they mix them up and combine "editions" and it's a mess.

I'm sure it will be sorted in a few hours, but that's Apple Music's side, not her team or Rhino (for once).

[Would You Like To Try 10,397]

This doesn't seem to appear on the NZ apple music...can't wait for the removal so they can add the extended mix next year!

[Would You Like To Try 10,397]

https://www.qobuz.com/nz-en/album/like-a-virgin-madonna/j1nsldmq5jcjc

Sounds the same type of compression used on the previous 2024 remaster judging by the audio preview...

[lucasciccone 4,320]

[Would You Like To Try 10,397]

2 minutes ago, lucasciccone said:

As always..... flop team 

[steady75 10,667]

No Extended mix. 

An album

These absolute fucking clowns. 

I'm so done with her shit fuck team. 

It's literally the basics.

Absolutely wretched.

[DoneGone 17,437]

31 minutes ago, Would You Like To Try said:

https://www.qobuz.com/nz-en/album/like-a-virgin-madonna/j1nsldmq5jcjc

Sounds the same type of compression used on the previous 2024 remaster judging by the audio preview...

This sounds... not good.