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Well, unflattering wasn't the first that popped out. Gross was. That's different. 
I have yet to understand how a naked body (total or partial, male or female) can be descibed as gross. That's actually the only thing that bothers me - as I kinda question why Mert Alas is posting these pics '-' I mean : on what purpose ?

Let's move the photo controversy conversation to the Instagram thread, shall we ? It doesn't really have much to do with the actual album... 

It was nothing personal, it just turns out you were the to bring it up and to call the pic gross. I know I would have had the exact same reaction if someone else said this. So I think people were not coming to you, they were coming to what you said.

It was nothing personal, it just turns out you were the to bring it up and to call the pic gross. I know I would have had the exact same reaction if someone else said this. So I think people were not coming to you, they were coming to what you said.

It was nothing personal, it just turns out you were the to bring it up and to call the pic gross. I know I would have had the exact same reaction if someone else said this. So I think people were not coming to you, they were coming to what you said.

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Not necessarily, but so are tons of Instagram photos posted everyday. 
"Gross" or "atrocious" is abit of a stretch, I think. 

How do both situations even compare ? If I post a photo of a war scene, should I compare it to actually sending people to a real war ? 
 
Anyways, I guess it's another case of "to each his own". 

Let's move the photo controversy conversation to the Instagram thread, shall we ? It doesn't really have much to do with the actual album... 

How do both situations even compare ? If I post a photo of a war scene, should I compare it to actually sending people to a real war ? 
 
Anyways, I guess it's another case of "to each his own". 

Well, unflattering wasn't the first that popped out. Gross was. That's different. 
I have yet to understand how a naked body (total or partial, male or female) can be descibed as gross. That's actually the only thing that bothers me - as I kinda question why Mert Alas is posting these pics '-' I mean : on what purpose ?

Not necessarily, but so are tons of Instagram photos posted everyday. 
"Gross" or "atrocious" is abit of a stretch, I think. 

I understood the word, I just don't know what's gross or atrocious about it.
It's a woman's body, we're supposed to believe it's Madonna. So ? 
It may not be in the best taste, but gross ?

Well, unflattering wasn't the first that popped out. Gross was. That's different. 
I have yet to understand how a naked body (total or partial, male or female) can be descibed as gross. That's actually the only thing that bothers me - as I kinda question why Mert Alas is posting these pics '-' I mean : on what purpose ?

Saying a pic in unflattering is really different than saying someone is ugly.
We all know Madonna doesn't look bad at all, yet she has her unflattering photos too. 
 
Saying a pic is unflattering is not an ad hominem attack. Calling someone ugly is. 

Saying a pic in unflattering is really different than saying someone is ugly.
We all know Madonna doesn't look bad at all, yet she has her unflattering photos too. 
 
Saying a pic is unflattering is not an ad hominem attack. Calling someone ugly is. 

Saying a pic in unflattering is really different than saying someone is ugly.
We all know Madonna doesn't look bad at all, yet she has her unflattering photos too. 
 
Saying a pic is unflattering is not an ad hominem attack. Calling someone ugly is. 

Saying a pic in unflattering is really different than saying someone is ugly.
We all know Madonna doesn't look bad at all, yet she has her unflattering photos too. 
 
Saying a pic is unflattering is not an ad hominem attack. Calling someone ugly is. 

Don't worry, I wasn't taking on you either.  
the 00s were something else (the whole "I'm a mom, wife and english duchess" thing) but the was provocative in the 90s : showing her breasts at a Gaultier fashion show, her outfits at the ToD premieres were quite revealing, let's not even mention the whole S&M SEX premiere party thing... 
 
She watered it down a bit when she got all this backlash though.
 
But now, the fact that it bothers people is a good reason for her to do it, I think. As there is nothing wrong with a 56 yo woman being sexy and provocative. 

Is she naked in the 1994 Esquire shoot ? I remember the bra and thong, but not naked pics... her first actual topless photo ws by Helmut Newton for Vanity Fair in 1990, though.
 
Anyways... I think the very reason she's doing it a lot lately is because it still generates reactions like yours.
Now, it might sound like I'm one of those Madonna-ass-kissers, but I think she actually makes a point here (or any other 56-57 celebrity acting the same would, for what it's worth). 
She first felt like acting provocatively in spite of her age, and she got a shitstorm for it. Is she known for backing down ? Nope. She actually does it even more, maybe a bit too much. But she's entititled to it, and that's a great in-your-face way to say "fuck you" to ageism. 

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Well, yes. There's not really any way around it.

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Well, yes. There's not really any way around it.

This !