Debord

Has she? I've seen heaps of collaborators who've only had good things to say about working with her. I've seen the repeated statements that the folk who work on and dance on her tour are the best paid in the business. And as for interactions with fans, I actually met her in 2019 and she was fabulous. Perhaps she is a horrible person but neither you or I have any way of knowing it, and it's a pretty extreme statement to make for no real purpose and very swiftly just becomes that self-aggrandising 'oh I'm an honest fan who tells it like it is, not a loon stan!' thing that has very little to do with the artist whatsoever. 
The folk who were there who've posted seem to have overwhelmingly had a great time and the one review from a Miami newspaper I've seen so far was very positive. This will be forgotten about by everyone except us hardcore stans, akin to when the London Palladium dropped its curtain.

Sitting studying videos of her shows and worrying about her "reactions" each night really is not healthy.

Has she? I've seen heaps of collaborators who've only had good things to say about working with her. I've seen the repeated statements that the folk who work on and dance on her tour are the best paid in the business. And as for interactions with fans, I actually met her in 2019 and she was fabulous. Perhaps she is a horrible person but neither you or I have any way of knowing it, and it's a pretty extreme statement to make for no real purpose and very swiftly just becomes that self-aggrandising 'oh I'm an honest fan who tells it like it is, not a loon stan!' thing that has very little to do with the artist whatsoever. 
The folk who were there who've posted seem to have overwhelmingly had a great time and the one review from a Miami newspaper I've seen so far was very positive. This will be forgotten about by everyone except us hardcore stans, akin to when the London Palladium dropped its curtain.

Has she? I've seen heaps of collaborators who've only had good things to say about working with her. I've seen the repeated statements that the folk who work on and dance on her tour are the best paid in the business. And as for interactions with fans, I actually met her in 2019 and she was fabulous. Perhaps she is a horrible person but neither you or I have any way of knowing it, and it's a pretty extreme statement to make for no real purpose and very swiftly just becomes that self-aggrandising 'oh I'm an honest fan who tells it like it is, not a loon stan!' thing that has very little to do with the artist whatsoever. 
The folk who were there who've posted seem to have overwhelmingly had a great time and the one review from a Miami newspaper I've seen so far was very positive. This will be forgotten about by everyone except us hardcore stans, akin to when the London Palladium dropped its curtain.

Has she? I've seen heaps of collaborators who've only had good things to say about working with her. I've seen the repeated statements that the folk who work on and dance on her tour are the best paid in the business. And as for interactions with fans, I actually met her in 2019 and she was fabulous. Perhaps she is a horrible person but neither you or I have any way of knowing it, and it's a pretty extreme statement to make for no real purpose and very swiftly just becomes that self-aggrandising 'oh I'm an honest fan who tells it like it is, not a loon stan!' thing that has very little to do with the artist whatsoever. 
The folk who were there who've posted seem to have overwhelmingly had a great time and the one review from a Miami newspaper I've seen so far was very positive. This will be forgotten about by everyone except us hardcore stans, akin to when the London Palladium dropped its curtain.

This is just weird to me. We don't know what she's like as a person. The nature of parasocial fandom is we think we do cos we take the (generally very carefully choreographed) glimpses we see and turn that into a whole person. She's over 70 shows in and and this is the first time we've had something like this, and it's clear from the exchanges here that no-one really knows what was going on behind the scenes and we're guessing. It really doesn't seem that big a deal.
As for AC, I went to a couple of shows where I read after the fact that apparently the AC was turned off but I honestly didn't notice..but then again they were in generally cold countries!

When the tour launched there was an article in Billboard about it estimating that Madonna would make over £80 million from it. I mean however expensive the logistics might be, they're not going to be tens of millions. There was a Business Insider article about touring last year which said that your average artist will make about $40 from a $100 ticket, and bigger artists will be able to get more, so I'm sure she'll do very well out of it.

When the tour launched there was an article in Billboard about it estimating that Madonna would make over £80 million from it. I mean however expensive the logistics might be, they're not going to be tens of millions. There was a Business Insider article about touring last year which said that your average artist will make about $40 from a $100 ticket, and bigger artists will be able to get more, so I'm sure she'll do very well out of it.

When the tour launched there was an article in Billboard about it estimating that Madonna would make over £80 million from it. I mean however expensive the logistics might be, they're not going to be tens of millions. There was a Business Insider article about touring last year which said that your average artist will make about $40 from a $100 ticket, and bigger artists will be able to get more, so I'm sure she'll do very well out of it.

She's a smart woman, she knows exactly what she's doing by saying M's music was just fun dance music without any import, specifying the 80s and comparing it to Kylie.

She's a smart woman, she knows exactly what she's doing by saying M's music was just fun dance music without any import, specifying the 80s and comparing it to Kylie.

She's a smart woman, she knows exactly what she's doing by saying M's music was just fun dance music without any import, specifying the 80s and comparing it to Kylie.

It's important to remember that vocals deteriorate with age, something you can hear with pretty much every singer. For Madonna to still be doing relatively physically demanding shows and singing live I'm sure is why the backing tracks are more pronounced now.

It's important to remember that vocals deteriorate with age, something you can hear with pretty much every singer. For Madonna to still be doing relatively physically demanding shows and singing live I'm sure is why the backing tracks are more pronounced now.

I mean...it does? Not a linear one but there's obviously a lot more going on than 'here's a song, here's another song'. Seems pretty uncontroversial to say that.

I'll have a go since I've not seen it anywhere else.
Intro/Nothing Really Matters - an overview of her career, a thank you to the fans and an acknowledgement that she's now at a place of peace and maturity.
Everybody through to Holiday - her early years in New York, both as an artist and as a person with her friends. This ends with AIDS hitting at the end of Holiday which takes us to...
Live To Tell/Like A Prayer/Unholy/Act of Contrition - AIDS wreaking havoc in New York and the world, taking many of her friends and many others. Gay men are trapped inside this nightmare and face a society which thinks they deserve it. Madonna tries to help, not just her friends but by challenging moralism and speaking up for sexual liberation and tolerance. She is a warrior ally, which takes us to...
Erotica through to Vogue - Madonna being transgressive, pushing boundaries, celebrating the underground and the queer community and then...
Human Nature/Crazy for You - the backlash hits, both in Madonna's career and in society which sees a resurgent moralism. Though it's painful and turbulent at the time, Madonna embraces herself from that period, accepting everything she did and that she experienced with love.
Die Another Day through to Don't Cry For Me Argentina - Coming out the other end of the backlash, Madonna keeps going. She is a survivor and keeps going no matter what. A huge part of what enables her to do this is her family, which lays to rest the demons she has always battled regarding her mother's death.
Bedtime Story/Ray of Light/Rain - her embrace of electronic music sees her still pushing forward and breaking boundaries but ultimately takes her back to her roots. She feels the love of her fans again, which brings her peace.
Bitch I'm Madonna/Celebration - ending again with an overview of her career, a celebration of her iconic career, legacy and everyone who's been part of it on the way. But it ends abruptly, because she's not done yet. The future is still unwritten.

I'll have a go since I've not seen it anywhere else.
Intro/Nothing Really Matters - an overview of her career, a thank you to the fans and an acknowledgement that she's now at a place of peace and maturity.
Everybody through to Holiday - her early years in New York, both as an artist and as a person with her friends. This ends with AIDS hitting at the end of Holiday which takes us to...
Live To Tell/Like A Prayer/Unholy/Act of Contrition - AIDS wreaking havoc in New York and the world, taking many of her friends and many others. Gay men are trapped inside this nightmare and face a society which thinks they deserve it. Madonna tries to help, not just her friends but by challenging moralism and speaking up for sexual liberation and tolerance. She is a warrior ally, which takes us to...
Erotica through to Vogue - Madonna being transgressive, pushing boundaries, celebrating the underground and the queer community and then...
Human Nature/Crazy for You - the backlash hits, both in Madonna's career and in society which sees a resurgent moralism. Though it's painful and turbulent at the time, Madonna embraces herself from that period, accepting everything she did and that she experienced with love.
Die Another Day through to Don't Cry For Me Argentina - Coming out the other end of the backlash, Madonna keeps going. She is a survivor and keeps going no matter what. A huge part of what enables her to do this is her family, which lays to rest the demons she has always battled regarding her mother's death.
Bedtime Story/Ray of Light/Rain - her embrace of electronic music sees her still pushing forward and breaking boundaries but ultimately takes her back to her roots. She feels the love of her fans again, which brings her peace.
Bitch I'm Madonna/Celebration - ending again with an overview of her career, a celebration of her iconic career, legacy and everyone who's been part of it on the way. But it ends abruptly, because she's not done yet. The future is still unwritten.

Folk writing essays about her vocals should listen to some of the bootlegs of the Blond Ambition tour, where she sounded appalling at times. Doing a 2 hour concert every night takes it out of you I'm sure - she sounds great the majority of the time and far better than many 'fan' doom mongers were predicting for this tour.

Folk writing essays about her vocals should listen to some of the bootlegs of the Blond Ambition tour, where she sounded appalling at times. Doing a 2 hour concert every night takes it out of you I'm sure - she sounds great the majority of the time and far better than many 'fan' doom mongers were predicting for this tour.

Folk writing essays about her vocals should listen to some of the bootlegs of the Blond Ambition tour, where she sounded appalling at times. Doing a 2 hour concert every night takes it out of you I'm sure - she sounds great the majority of the time and far better than many 'fan' doom mongers were predicting for this tour.

She is most definitely singing live the vast majority of the time, sometimes with a backing track behind her. It's not even a debate, it's obvious.

I'm just absolutely dying at folk presenting discussion of a woman's bottom as some brave truth-telling that shouldn't be censored. Get a grip!

I'm just absolutely dying at folk presenting discussion of a woman's bottom as some brave truth-telling that shouldn't be censored. Get a grip!

I'm just absolutely dying at folk presenting discussion of a woman's bottom as some brave truth-telling that shouldn't be censored. Get a grip!

I'm just absolutely dying at folk presenting discussion of a woman's bottom as some brave truth-telling that shouldn't be censored. Get a grip!