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I was always curious to know who Madonna played with this character from Madame X, which by the way scared me a little when I saw her since it is somewhat disturbing not being able to see her face, what does this character represent?, we never saw her in action as if we could see all the other alter egos.

Maybe another Frozen RMX. This time trap, reggaeton or some other crap  

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Your post should have been more respectful, you have freely insulted without substantiating why or the reasons for your insults, which looks bad in a forum and anyone would call you out for disrespect. For the next try to control your impulses and base your opinions without insulting. The only thing I agree with you is that she should choose well who she should collaborate with to achieve a new number one on the charts. For example, Britney Spears would be a good choice since she is in force in the media due to her recent wedding and her media friendship with Madonna.

Madonna vs Sickick - Frozen On Pride (feat. Jozzy)
 
 
 
And you guys believed that Frozen On Crap was the end of this nightmare

She sounds incredibly dull, as soon as I read about boring activism and LGBT and a woman of colour, I stopped reading. Madonna needs to stop working with these ridiculous virtue signallers and work with proper people that could actually give her a hit.

Julia Garner, it's the first time I've heard of her, so I decided to watch some of her videos on YouTube and I came to the conclusion that
I don't agree that she is the lucky actress destined to play such a complex character. I feel that she lacks that natural rebellion and mischievousness that has always characterized Madonna since her beginnings. I see her as very sweet, very good and boring, so I feel that it will be difficult for her to interpret someone totally different from her. Another thing that I don't like is that she has certain masculine features on her face that make her not look much like Madonna and give her a certain hard expression on her face and therefore less expressiveness.
Well, I have no choice but to Trust Madonna's perfectionism and demands when choosing the lucky actress who will play her and let's not end up disappointed when going to the cinema to see the movie with an actress who does not give the size at the end.

Julia Garner, it's the first time I've heard of her, so I decided to watch some of her videos on YouTube and I came to the conclusion that
I don't agree that she is the lucky actress destined to play such a complex character. I feel that she lacks that natural rebellion and mischievousness that has always characterized Madonna since her beginnings. I see her as very sweet, very good and boring, so I feel that it will be difficult for her to interpret someone totally different from her. Another thing that I don't like is that she has certain masculine features on her face that make her not look much like Madonna and give her a certain hard expression on her face and therefore less expressiveness.
Well, I have no choice but to Trust Madonna's perfectionism and demands when choosing the lucky actress who will play her and let's not end up disappointed when going to the cinema to see the movie with an actress who does not give the size at the end.

Julia Garner, it's the first time I've heard of her, so I decided to watch some of her videos on YouTube and I came to the conclusion that
I don't agree that she is the lucky actress destined to play such a complex character. I feel that she lacks that natural rebellion and mischievousness that has always characterized Madonna since her beginnings. I see her as very sweet, very good and boring, so I feel that it will be difficult for her to interpret someone totally different from her. Another thing that I don't like is that she has certain masculine features on her face that make her not look much like Madonna and give her a certain hard expression on her face and therefore less expressiveness.
Well, I have no choice but to Trust Madonna's perfectionism and demands when choosing the lucky actress who will play her and let's not end up disappointed when going to the cinema to see the movie with an actress who does not give the size at the end.

I definitely prefer a world tour. Madonna has already fulfilled her dream of doing a tour in theaters, which she wanted so much, which was surely a different experience but that cannot be compared to everything that involves performing in stadiums or large auditoriums where the energy and the shouts of the public form an indescribable and stimulating adrenaline for the artist.
Seeing her perform in Medellin reactivated my desire to see her live again, to see her choreographies full of sensuality and her imposing presence again, although some suggested that she limit herself to sitting in a chair playing her guitar all the time after seeing her last performance, well I'm sure Madonna will show them how wrong they were to underestimate her and they will have no choice but to retract their hasty opinions.

After making us reflect on the theme of wars where we don't know who is the good guy although probably none is, and the superficiality of the world of Hollywood where not everyone manages to achieve fame and those who do have probably paid a high price, now Madonna decides to give us a break and take us to dance to the disco through this wonderful album whose structure makes us not stop from the first to the last song of the album and where it reminds us, in case we have forgotten, who is the true Queen of the dance floors, and of course Pop.
Hung Up, Get together, Future Lover and I love New York are some of my favorites. I also find this version of Forbidden Love much more appealing than the one on Bedtime Stories, and that sample of West End Girls by the PetShopBoys used in Jump fits this song perfectly. I really enjoyed this era and it made me wonder what wonderful record Madonna would surprise us with after this album. I definitely had no idea that the worst was yet to come.
 

After making us reflect on the theme of wars where we don't know who is the good guy although probably none is, and the superficiality of the world of Hollywood where not everyone manages to achieve fame and those who do have probably paid a high price, now Madonna decides to give us a break and take us to dance to the disco through this wonderful album whose structure makes us not stop from the first to the last song of the album and where it reminds us, in case we have forgotten, who is the true Queen of the dance floors, and of course Pop.
Hung Up, Get together, Future Lover and I love New York are some of my favorites. I also find this version of Forbidden Love much more appealing than the one on Bedtime Stories, and that sample of West End Girls by the PetShopBoys used in Jump fits this song perfectly. I really enjoyed this era and it made me wonder what wonderful record Madonna would surprise us with after this album. I definitely had no idea that the worst was yet to come.
 

Although I am surprised (disappointed) that Mother and Father is so low and Die Another Day is so high in the results, I am glad that the album in general has a good score and reception from the fans, so it was predictable a tour based on the songs on the album...
…but it wasn't like that because this album was practically relegated and few songs were performed on the tour taking their place nosy songs due to the cliché speech of “Reinvention”, by the way, could this have been something genuine or forced? Soon I will talk about this topic in a post (I need a little more information)
and I'm still waiting for a live presentation of one of the best ballads on the album: Love Profusion, since Madonna made me believe that she would perform it live on tour, since it was not only a single from the album but also had a video (quite insipid and sleepy to be honest) but I was very disappointed not to see this song in the setlist of the tour (not even in the discards) but despite this I still have the hope of seeing it performed live as it deserves.

I also thought about that possibility because the lyrics fit with the way of life of those women (especially the final sentence) but I am more convinced by the version that she wanted to empower women by not making them feel guilty for being ambitious and using men to achieve benefits because they also did the same with them using the power of money and everything would be justified because "we live in a material world."

Contradiction that would not have been formed if Madonna had made the music videos for these two songs (Material girl and Like a Virgin) respecting the original message but surely the controversy would have been too much, especially for those times when women were very repressed to express their sexuality or what they wanted to do with their body. That is why I think that the videos for these songs softened the original message and that is where the contradiction is formed because one does not know whether to believe the lyrics of the song or the video that tells us something different. Let us remember that at that moment Madonna began her provocative phase and the controversial plot of both songs was enough and perhaps she did not want to risk too much because it could have been counterproductive. She would have time to do it without fear in the Like a Prayer, Erotica and American Life era.

More than describing the story of a single girl, it is narrating a real situation that happened, happens and will always happen in the world: women who see in the rich man the opportunity to achieve a life full of comforts and without having to work. Maybe that reality was something taboo in the 80s (I don't know because I'm not from that time but I imagine it was because in those times they were scandalized by everything), that's why they used satire to talk about that topic and the rhythm used in the song helped a lot for it.
A theme that is still valid to this day (in fact now more and more men are going after rich women and we see it in the current popularity of the terms "sugar daddy" or "sugar mommy"). And about the video, by altering the original meaning of the song, I don't take it into account when formulating the original question of the post.

But it doesn't means it has a meaning itself. You can be sarcastic and have some depth. In fact sarcasm in music has been used to showcase serious issues.
Madonna is a woman and she will be talking from her experience, it doesn't means it's a feminist activist with each song.

Something that always caught my attention was the fact that the video made for Material Girl totally contradicted the original lyrics of the song. As we all know in the video, although Madonna is shown obsessed with material things and money, we later realize that all this was only in appearance since in real life she was a woman who valued simple things and romance ( although I can't imagine someone in real life who prefers an insignificant bouquet of roses to an elegant and expensive jewel as seen in the video)
This "happy ending" is not mentioned in the original lyrics of the song, which rather talks about a woman who prefers to relate to men with money, always speaking of them in the plural, implying that she is not looking for a formal relationship (marrying a millionaire ) but relationships as brief and fleeting as possible (hinted further by the final phrase “Experience has made me rich…” where I think “Experience” refers to multiple relationships with several different men.
That is why I see that it goes against the empowerment of women since it contradicts the ideal that women should not depend on men and fend for themselves without the need to use their bodies or their beauty to seduce rich men and get material things or economic stability, thus becoming sexual objects.
On the other hand, I also feel that the song empowers them in a certain way by showing that in the end it is they, the material girls, who have the power to decide whether or not to be with someone despite having a lot of money and these men will have to submit to the final decision of the woman who, thanks to her beauty, has power in her hands. Two opposite thoughts to each other but that are found in an apparently simple song but whose lyrics contain a lot of complexity. Perhaps it was for this reason that Madonna decided to make a video that changed the original and controversial meaning of the song for something more digestible and romantic, although this would not prevent the public from identifying her as a material and ambitious girl, an image that apparently will follow her until the end of her days.

 
 

Something that always caught my attention was the fact that the video made for Material Girl totally contradicted the original lyrics of the song. As we all know in the video, although Madonna is shown obsessed with material things and money, we later realize that all this was only in appearance since in real life she was a woman who valued simple things and romance ( although I can't imagine someone in real life who prefers an insignificant bouquet of roses to an elegant and expensive jewel as seen in the video)
This "happy ending" is not mentioned in the original lyrics of the song, which rather talks about a woman who prefers to relate to men with money, always speaking of them in the plural, implying that she is not looking for a formal relationship (marrying a millionaire ) but relationships as brief and fleeting as possible (hinted further by the final phrase “Experience has made me rich…” where I think “Experience” refers to multiple relationships with several different men.
That is why I see that it goes against the empowerment of women since it contradicts the ideal that women should not depend on men and fend for themselves without the need to use their bodies or their beauty to seduce rich men and get material things or economic stability, thus becoming sexual objects.
On the other hand, I also feel that the song empowers them in a certain way by showing that in the end it is they, the material girls, who have the power to decide whether or not to be with someone despite having a lot of money and these men will have to submit to the final decision of the woman who, thanks to her beauty, has power in her hands. Two opposite thoughts to each other but that are found in an apparently simple song but whose lyrics contain a lot of complexity. Perhaps it was for this reason that Madonna decided to make a video that changed the original and controversial meaning of the song for something more digestible and romantic, although this would not prevent the public from identifying her as a material and ambitious girl, an image that apparently will follow her until the end of her days.

 
 

I always wanted to see a rock or acoustic Madonna and with this album both wishes were fulfilled and better still, discreet and ear-friendly electronic sounds were added and all this mix resulted in a product that exceeded my expectations although I admit that it is not an album many will like it at first listen, but right there lies its charm and particularity, it is an album that you learn to love over time.
The only song that I feel breaks the cohesion of the album is Die Another day, I feel that it should not have been included for this reason because its sound differs a lot from the rest of the songs on the album (something similar to what happened with 4 Minutes on Hard Candy), plus I don't like it because I find it overproduced both in sounds and in Madonna's distorted voice. Therefore, for being the different and rejected of the group, I will have to give it the score it deserves, although the video for this song is wonderful and it has nothing to do with hating the song.
Special mention for Mother and Father, my favorite on the album, both for the message and for the production, the perfect example of how sounds can transmit emotions, especially the final part where Madonna, whose voice is distorted like a girl, repeats that she is trying to overcome the memory of her mother's death and lead a normal life while in the background the sounds come together and gradually increase in intensity until they end up in something chaotic, a chaos that reflects the mental struggle that develops in her because of the difficulty that it is for her to overcome the trauma and that we do not know if she will be successful in it. That's why I think that The song that should have followed after should have been Easy Ride and not Die Another Day since its slow and calm rhythm made the perfect contrast with the intensity of the final part of Mother and Father.

I always wanted to see a rock or acoustic Madonna and with this album both wishes were fulfilled and better still, discreet and ear-friendly electronic sounds were added and all this mix resulted in a product that exceeded my expectations although I admit that it is not an album many will like it at first listen, but right there lies its charm and particularity, it is an album that you learn to love over time.
The only song that I feel breaks the cohesion of the album is Die Another day, I feel that it should not have been included for this reason because its sound differs a lot from the rest of the songs on the album (something similar to what happened with 4 Minutes on Hard Candy), plus I don't like it because I find it overproduced both in sounds and in Madonna's distorted voice. Therefore, for being the different and rejected of the group, I will have to give it the score it deserves, although the video for this song is wonderful and it has nothing to do with hating the song.
Special mention for Mother and Father, my favorite on the album, both for the message and for the production, the perfect example of how sounds can transmit emotions, especially the final part where Madonna, whose voice is distorted like a girl, repeats that she is trying to overcome the memory of her mother's death and lead a normal life while in the background the sounds come together and gradually increase in intensity until they end up in something chaotic, a chaos that reflects the mental struggle that develops in her because of the difficulty that it is for her to overcome the trauma and that we do not know if she will be successful in it. That's why I think that The song that should have followed after should have been Easy Ride and not Die Another Day since its slow and calm rhythm made the perfect contrast with the intensity of the final part of Mother and Father.

I always wanted to see a rock or acoustic Madonna and with this album both wishes were fulfilled and better still, discreet and ear-friendly electronic sounds were added and all this mix resulted in a product that exceeded my expectations although I admit that it is not an album many will like it at first listen, but right there lies its charm and particularity, it is an album that you learn to love over time.
The only song that I feel breaks the cohesion of the album is Die Another day, I feel that it should not have been included for this reason because its sound differs a lot from the rest of the songs on the album (something similar to what happened with 4 Minutes on Hard Candy), plus I don't like it because I find it overproduced both in sounds and in Madonna's distorted voice. Therefore, for being the different and rejected of the group, I will have to give it the score it deserves, although the video for this song is wonderful and it has nothing to do with hating the song.
Special mention for Mother and Father, my favorite on the album, both for the message and for the production, the perfect example of how sounds can transmit emotions, especially the final part where Madonna, whose voice is distorted like a girl, repeats that she is trying to overcome the memory of her mother's death and lead a normal life while in the background the sounds come together and gradually increase in intensity until they end up in something chaotic, a chaos that reflects the mental struggle that develops in her because of the difficulty that it is for her to overcome the trauma and that we do not know if she will be successful in it. That's why I think that The song that should have followed after should have been Easy Ride and not Die Another Day since its slow and calm rhythm made the perfect contrast with the intensity of the final part of Mother and Father.

But think that it may be something temporary, in fact if I wanted to define Madonna's personality I could not since throughout her career she has shown different personalities. Just remember how she behaved in the Ray of Light era and the radical change in attitude in the Music era, totally opposite.

Now we are in a new era where she behaves in a different way (a mixture of artificial and synthetic) which I think will last until she releases a new album and promotes it and at the end of that era she will show us a new personality different from the current one.
And as for her physique, well she decided to resort to the help of technology to face the passage of time and gravity and I think it's fine since more and more people are looking for "eternal youth" and the only option for it are these methods although I would have liked them not to be so excessive in the case of Madonna but well.
And you also think that at least Madonna has not ended like other stars who did fall into decline like Michael Jackson, for example, who became the mockery of the whole world due to his physique (the urban legend of his change in skin color ) and his pathetic scandals (when he covered his children so they wouldn't take pictures of them). If Madonna reached that extreme, I would want her to retire from music.

I didn't ask for the definition of forum,  I'm reasonably versed in the English language and even have the ability to Google things.  I can't Google you though and it's you I'm asking about.
What did you hope to gain with your thread? What was it's purpose? What response did you expect from it? Why use the specific language you used?  Why won't you answer?
Is it because you just fancied setting people off? You wanted to play with other's emotions? You don't believe that the words you used could cause offense? You don't care? You want to cause offense?
 
 

But think that it may be something temporary, in fact if I wanted to define Madonna's personality I could not since throughout her career she has shown different personalities. Just remember how she behaved in the Ray of Light era and the radical change in attitude in the Music era, totally opposite.

Now we are in a new era where she behaves in a different way (a mixture of artificial and synthetic) which I think will last until she releases a new album and promotes it and at the end of that era she will show us a new personality different from the current one.
And as for her physique, well she decided to resort to the help of technology to face the passage of time and gravity and I think it's fine since more and more people are looking for "eternal youth" and the only option for it are these methods although I would have liked them not to be so excessive in the case of Madonna but well.
And you also think that at least Madonna has not ended like other stars who did fall into decline like Michael Jackson, for example, who became the mockery of the whole world due to his physique (the urban legend of his change in skin color ) and his pathetic scandals (when he covered his children so they wouldn't take pictures of them). If Madonna reached that extreme, I would want her to retire from music.