(Interview) Ricardo Gomes, Madonna's Second Set of Eyes....

[Alpha 1,885]

1 hour ago, androiduser said:

my only worry is that legends like Meisel or other legendary icons won't be booked anymore because they don't provide insanely airbrushed and deformed images. It's a vicious circle - Madonna doesn't want their style because she's used to extreme airbrushing, and they don't want to compromise their integrity by producing unrecognizable work, so in the end there's no more collabs with legends.

Tell me you dont know Meisel without saying you don't know Meisel 🤣🤣🤣 you know, the photographer who is in literal hiding because he doesnt want anyone to see him old. Also his stuff with Madonna in the 00s is BEYOND airbrushed it's spray painted.

[I am madonna 383]

17 hours ago, Alpha said:

The employee for sure. We've all worked at places where there is that one stupid employee who can't do shit yet somehow the boss doesnt see and gets taken advantage of but everyone around wants to say something but doesnt. Madonna isn't telling him MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS COOL TONED TO THE POINT WHERE I LOOK LIKE A CORPSE. MAKE SURE YOU AIRBRUSH ME TO LOOK LIKE A TODDLER. Madonna is just that boomer who gets shown something on the computer and gets impressed like those boomers who don't think there's anything wrong with using comic sans.

This! This! This! Thank you!

I mean seriously. Some People keep insist that it's Madonna's fault because she is the one who hired him blah blah and some "fans' to enjoy to describe Madonna as Freak and lunatic  who can't accept her old self in reality. Seriously? And you keep saying yourself as Madonna fan?

 

This is what I wrote in other thread.

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That's an interesting point of view and argument. So your argument is that Ricardo is not a lunatic, Madonna is a lunatic. So you insist that Ricardo just photoshopped a little bit in a plain and elegant way and showed it to Madonna, and then Madonna ordered Ricardo to say, "No! this is not enough! reduce my waist in half the size and make my face look like an ugly alien!!! I don't want people to see who I really am right now!" Hmmmm. That's an interesting argument.

But I and countless other real fans think differently. For example, Take a look at her TikTok. She's not afraid to show the world her bare face without makeup and without a filter. This alone shows that it's Ricardo's responsibility for these bizarre photoshopped photos.

Let's look at another example? Look at Vanity fair italia 2023 photoshoot.  We can see bone structure of Madonna's face and see her actual waist size, unlike the bizarre Photoshop photos of Riccardo's.

You insist that it like Ricardo do little bit and elegantly photoshopped her photos and delivered it to Madonna, and then she looked at the pictures and said, "No, no, I need more photoshopped! Make me look like a alien!!" 

But we can easily guess from just those two examples that it's not like that.

 

Ricardo is useless incompetent Bitch. He should be fired as soon as possible. Period.

 

Madonna is just one of the old generation victims who doesn't know that there are So many people in the world who know how to photoshop naturally and appropriately. I bet that If Madonna fires Ricardo and hires someone who knows how to photoshop properly, Madonna will post properly photoshopped pictures on her Instagram. Rather than ordering new employee to be weird and over-photoshopped herself, as some so-called Madonna fans claim.

Ricardo is Incompetent delusional and horrible instargram photoshop bitch. And that delusional personal instagram photoshop  Bitch who perceives himself as an important person must be fired. ASAP. Period.

 

[sara94 2,534]

This man has done more harm than good to her fr.

And since he's acting like such a smart ass, why didn't he stop her from uploading some of those horrible pictures & clips from 2020 - 2022? 

[littlestartman 164]

This guy is talking a lot because he is insecure he is her Bitch. What he did was take a video of her boxing boyfriend.

 

Also ricardo is jurt recreating Klein/eroticas/old images with less budget and worst lighting

[cosmic_system 3,378]

10 hours ago, androiduser said:

my only worry is that legends like Meisel or other legendary icons won't be booked anymore because they don't provide insanely airbrushed and deformed images. It's a vicious circle - Madonna doesn't want their style because she's used to extreme airbrushing, and they don't want to compromise their integrity by producing unrecognizable work, so in the end there's no more collabs with legends.

Sorry but Meisel is not the Meisel of the 90s, this is the last project they did together 

The latest Vainity Fair America 2008 photoshoot is aribushed to death 

The same goes for Luigi & Iango and Mert And Marcus 

 

Now of course Ricordo can’t use photoshop but at least the latest three “photo shoots” he did are better than his usual stuff. 

[cosmic_system 3,378]

Also she’s not collaborating with huge photographers because magazines are not sadly interested in her anymore like in the past (something stupid since her covers always sells out). In the last 5 years we had Vogue UK with Mert and Marcus, the hideous Steven Klein V magazine, L’Official Italia and Ibizia by Ricardo  and Re-Edition with Ricardo (1 cover with 20 variants). Vanity Fair Europe did the whole Religious phothoshoot last year but the latest international Vanity Fair was 15 years ago, the latest Vogue America cover was 19 years ago for example. Paper magazine did a cover the the cover with her but it was only digital, Interview does every year for pride something with her but they don’t put her on the cover. So what’s the point?  She’s doing something new next month (I can’t say more) and it looks like it’s not with Ricardo (but it’s not someone new and it’s not Klein) and I hope it’s for a huge magazine (could be Vogue Italia but it’s just my guess) but at the end of the day Ricardo (he’s an arrogant and I can’t stand him) is the next best thing. He’s cheap and does the job. 
Beyonce does the same, lots of photos on her Instagram about her going out with he husband and stuff like that, not different than what Madonna does. Beyonce’s latest W cover was also horrible and photoshopped to death but let’s bash Madonna because she wants photoshop. 

[Lorx 392]

I get that he has to follow her everywhere for photos. And she needs someone to do so. But for a star like Madonna, you'd expect someone more skilled for this.

Sure, editing her face is part of the job, but not to the point of making photos look fake and ridiculous. He's not a photographer, just a random guy using FaceApp. His main "skill" seems to be exploiting Madonna's dysmorphia. Embarrassing. He's improved a bit over time, probably because he's paid well, but he doesn't see his own mediocrity and luck in being there.

Madonna, like many from her generation, might not realize there are many people out there who can use Photoshop. Just a few years ago, she worked with decent photographers like Tom Munro, who did a good job in 2014, now it's just Ricardo.

I'm not a photographer, but I love photography and I know how to use a DLSR. Even with just a smartphone, I'd do a better job than he does. A good photographer can take amazing photos with a smartphone.

I get that she wants lots of content for social media, but anyone could do that. Picking a random person might actually get better results.

Madonna, I understand you might not hire Helmut Newton for this, but at least choose someone with decent skills who can avoid such gross mistakes

[cosmic_system 3,378]

2 hours ago, Lorx said:

I get that he has to follow her everywhere for photos. And she needs someone to do so. But for a star like Madonna, you'd expect someone more skilled for this.

Sure, editing her face is part of the job, but not to the point of making photos look fake and ridiculous. He's not a photographer, just a random guy using FaceApp. His main "skill" seems to be exploiting Madonna's dysmorphia. Embarrassing. He's improved a bit over time, probably because he's paid well, but he doesn't see his own mediocrity and luck in being there.

Madonna, like many from her generation, might not realize there are many people out there who can use Photoshop. Just a few years ago, she worked with decent photographers like Tom Munro, who did a good job in 2014, now it's just Ricardo.

I'm not a photographer, but I love photography and I know how to use a DLSR. Even with just a smartphone, I'd do a better job than he does. A good photographer can take amazing photos with a smartphone.

I get that she wants lots of content for social media, but anyone could do that. Picking a random person might actually get better results.

Madonna, I understand you might not hire Helmut Newton for this, but at least choose someone with decent skills who can avoid such gross mistakes

You comparing a picture from 20 years ago (or 15) with something recent? Also she pumped her lips in real life, that’s not photoshop. 

[Starchild 3,497]

11 hours ago, I am madonna said:

This! This! This! Thank you!

I mean seriously. Some People keep insist that it's Madonna's fault because she is the one who hired him blah blah and some "fans' to enjoy to describe Madonna as Freak and lunatic  who can't accept her old self in reality. Seriously? And you keep saying yourself as Madonna fan?

This is what I wrote in other thread.

Madonna is just one of the old generation victims who doesn't know that there are So many people in the world who know how to photoshop naturally and appropriately. I bet that If Madonna fires Ricardo and hires someone who knows how to photoshop properly, Madonna will post properly photoshopped pictures on her Instagram. Rather than ordering new employee to be weird and over-photoshopped herself, as some so-called Madonna fans claim.

Ricardo is Incompetent delusional and horrible instargram photoshop bitch. And that delusional personal instagram photoshop  Bitch who perceives himself as an important person must be fired. ASAP. Period.

You need to tone it down a few notches.

We're not trying to save lives here.

[I am madonna 383]

On 7/9/2024 at 3:15 PM, xavier said:

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What’s your creative relationship with Madonna and how involved were you in the Celebration Tour production?

At this point, I oversee, give my opinion and give notes if I see something. Me and M[adonna] went to a few different types of shows before we started rehearsing [for Celebration], looking for inspiration and researching. Then we started having meetings, and it was all a conversation and an exchange of ideas. But she is the main creative of the show. It's really her vision and what she wanted to do. 

When you’d watch the show back, what elements of yourself would you see reflected?

The second act of the show, which is the ’90s, Erotica, until the end and gets kind of “Bad Girl”-ish. That's really where my vision came to life because I directed the videos, and was very involved for the whole show on the camera work and the live video. There were a lot of people involved in this show, it's a whole village. 

It’s probably the biggest show, in terms of production, that I've ever been to in my life. You’re in such a unique position with Madonna because there’s a lot of trust and you’ve built a very close relationship. How did you get to that place with her?

I don't really know, it was so organic. Everyone talks to me about it, the people that are really close to her and the people that have been working with her for so long. They respect me a lot because they're like, “You managed to create your own position with her and no one has ever managed to do that.” People would always come and go for specific projects. I came in to help her promote her last album, create visuals and photos for press or for Instagram. 

It was very hard in the beginning to direct her because she didn't know me. I was supposed to come for three months to work with her until she started rehearsing for the previous tour and she just kept me on. I was like, “Maybe I'm gonna go home after rehearsals and I'm not going on tour,” but then I ended up going on tour. We figured out a way to keep working [through COVID], and to stay creative and communicate, and then I moved to LA with her and we just kept working. 

I kept bringing her projects and ideas and introducing her to new people, and that's how it happened. She likes to just keep going and stay connected with what's happening in the moment. There is no one else around her that really does that to the level that she likes, bringing things the way I bring them to her. I keep it very real and very straight. Very much like, “This is cool, you should do it.” Of course, sometimes the idea changes and it becomes her idea, but at least I start something with her.

Living in this world, I would imagine it's difficult to be exposed to new ideas or talent all the time. How do you stay connected and inspired, while still being in Madonna’s circle touring the world? 

During tour is a little hard. I managed to do other projects, at the same time, smaller projects. I don't know how, but I managed. We've been on the road for so long and rehearsals started last year in February. I try to watch movies, sometimes. When I'm in different cities, I walk around. That's what keeps me inspired. I go out, I see people and I try to have a little bit of a life outside of the touring world. I don't just wake up at 1 PM and go to the venue. I’d rather sleep a little less, wake up earlier, and go out and then go to the show later. On the days without a show, I either work on other projects, meet people or stay active. That's how I keep going. 

What do you do during the show? 

Every night, I’m on the barricades around the stage. I kind of follow her, looking at different things. I'm looking at hair, sometimes the skirt gets shortened. Sometimes this gets added, this gets removed. I report feedback. After I look at the screens, sometimes we change something on lighting. I'm just really connected to the show. I'm kind of like her eyes in the audience, if she was in the audience. 

That's probably why you and Madonna get along so well. Having worked with you both, you're extremely particular and such perfectionists. Have you ever just enjoyed the show with a drink?

To be honest, I haven't sat down and watched the show for fun. I’m either following the show or following M[adonna] on stage, photographing her or photographing the show details. And after the show, we go into the editing of the show. I've been living on this show for a while, it's intense. 

You've been doing more directing work. Is that what you’re interested in moving more into, music videos?

I love photography, but video is a completely different world. It's so much more real time and I'm starting to relate to it more and more. Before working with M[adonna], I was really into photography and that's all I wanted to do. I thought that video was not for me, but the longer I work with her I see myself more involved with video. I'm starting to look at other artists’ work and I'm like, “I wish they would have done it this way,” you know? I feel very involved.

Obviously, you've done so much with Madonna. Is there like a dream project in the music space that you could see yourself working on at some point?

Working with artists is very complicated. You’re not able to do everything you want to do, that's the problem. Of course, there are other artists I would love to work with, but I'm not dreaming about working with any other artists. If it happens, it's great. I'm not really pushing for it to happen. I love documentaries and I love campaigns, that's what I want to go towards. Working a little bit more in the fashion world, and outside of music and show business. 

You’ll probably need time to recalibrate creatively and decide what’s next after such a busy tour. 

I don't want to take a long break, I'm fine. 

What's been the most memorable place to visit on this tour?

Middle America, I don't understand. Some are a little bit fascinated by it. Nothing really made me feel like I had to go back there.

I’m from Minnesota–

Going to Prince’s house was fun. He would never go out and didn't like to travel, so he would just invite people to his home like M[adonna] and her dancers. Europe is always fun, like when we went out shopping in Paris, it was cute. We walked a little bit and the car would pick us up somewhere and we’d walk somewhere else. My birthday in Cleveland was not cute, it was just a random place. We ended up going bowling, which is something that I would never do. The West Coast was fun, Vegas was crazy. It's basically like: wake up, explore, maybe go to the show, maybe there's an after thing, and then it's repeat repeat, repeat. Touring with M[adonna] is very particular. She's very dedicated to work and her family, so that's all she does on tour: work and family. She doesn't party, she doesn't drink. There is no sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll. So I kind of live that way too, I don't drink or do anything crazy.

Did you ever anticipate having as many crazy experiences as you've had since beginning this work?

No, I never get starstruck. So I never anticipate anything, I just go with it. I'm just happy to be there and I'm grateful that it happened.

I wonder if it's because you've humanized Madonna, one of the most famous and most powerful people in entertainment.

Before working with her I always respected her and her as an artist, but it wasn't the type of music I would listen to. One time she asked me, “Did you come out to my music?” And I was like, “No,” because it's the truth. I love her, but I was just listening to other things. When I was asked to work with her I came in as, “Let me see what this person is about, let me feel the energy in the room, let me see if I can see myself.” She allowed me to be myself and I also allowed myself to be myself, which a lot of people don’t around her because they're afraid. 

The first time I worked with her, it was very cold. And when I came back, they became more personal. They allowed me in her dressing room and I started giving my opinion: “Maybe not that t-shirt, maybe that hair.” Literally everyone that was there, like the glam team, they were looking at me like, “Who the fuck is this person that just arrived?” I was like, “If it doesn't work out and I’m not asked to work again, it's fine.” I'm not gonna change my personality, just because it’s Madonna, Beyoncé or Rihanna. I read the room, as well, I don't just go in and start talking. If I'm welcomed and the artist is asking questions, and if everyone's being afraid of answering, I will talk.

That is the worst when you're in a room with talent and everyone's walking on eggshells. Why does that dynamic suddenly exist, when one person walks in and everyone's afraid?

That happens here. But I've been in other rooms with other people where it also happens. I've also felt that it's sometimes better to stay quiet and just do my job. I've worked with people that I didn't like to work with, I have worked with very sweet and warm people, and I've worked with very rude people where I haven't even shared one photo online because I hated them so much. That's how it is. To me, photography is so personal and it's my baby. It's what I've wanted to do since I was 17. I don't give a fuck if if I go into a room and I shoot someone that's really rude to me and I don't want to share it. I won't share it, even if it's good for my career. Something else will come.

I think that's a good way to be. You’re no bullshit, which I appreciate and I'm sure Madonna also appreciates. 

I hope so, yeah.

Do you see yourself that way?

I do. Sometimes you need a little bit of bullshit, but most of the time I’m straight to the point and I will tell you what I think. And sometimes it's a problem that I have. I might hurt people a little bit because I tell everyone what I think about in that moment. Sometimes I'm like, “Maybe I should have said something a little bit different.” But then I'm like, “No, I was being real. That's, that's how I feel, that's how I think, so then we can figure it out.” 

When I first met you for PAPER’s Madonna cover, I was like, “Whoa, okay I'm processing–” 

I feel like you hated me for the first five minutes.

And then I was like, “Okay, I love this.” 

I always appreciate that when I work, especially with M[adonna], and a magazine that it's so complex and specific. When I go into a project with her I already know what I'm going to go through, so I try to be very clear. I always try to say the bad things and the good things. Sometimes people are like, “Let’s look at the good side,” but I'm like, “There might not be a good side,” you know? It's just very specific and that's why she is who she is. 

I loved our shoot. There was so much spontaneity and it basically became one big party in Brooklyn.

In the beginning, I was a bit freaked out by everything. We had so many people on set, it was actually insane. I don't know how we made that happen. I mean, you made it happen, but I will never forget that shoot because I also met incredible people from New York, cool kids. I really saw a different side of New York and it made me curious. I knew about this side in Europe, but it was a really fun shoot, for sure. And it was one of the first times that I shot without a real shot list. We only had the locations planned and then whatever happened happened in that location, which is crazy. But it worked out. 

It’s not like we pre-planned any of that, it all just happened. It was interesting to see firsthand how people light up around Madonna. She is a force, for sure.

Yeah, it was a night. A night in Brooklyn.

What impact do you think the Celebration Tour had and what would you say is its larger message?

Regarding her as a performer, I think it's insane. I feel tired looking at her performing every night. Her energy is crazy. At her age, to still be performing the way she's performing, there’s nobody that does that. And a lot of the new performers, the younger artists or bigger artists that are still younger, I don't know if they would ever be able to do that. So I think that's the main inspiration for every artist: rehearse for so long, almost die, come back to life, go on the road for so long and just be so strong mentally. That’s very inspiring. 

Visually, it's a such a minimal show, but still feels huge. It doesn't have many props, it doesn't have 100 chairs, it doesn't have stairs. It's really just a video and a stage. And for such a big pop artist to do that, everything else has to be solid. And I'm actually so happy that she allowed herself to do that. It's way, way stronger, because it's all about her and the dancers. And if that is not good enough, then the show wouldn't be good.

Photography: ROSARIIO

 

The only funny thing about this long, boring, horrible interview is that Ricardo is really trying hard to make himself look like a very important person. Yada Yada Blah Blah~~~ But The problem is, the whole world knows exactly what he really doing and what he really is. He's just a useless and incompetent Photoshop Bitch. That's all.

[Madnness 252]

No one will ever come close to capturing Madonna like Ritts did. It's even unfair to compare him to this Ricard guy. But, at this point, we know that Madonna wouldn't let him post anything without her blessing, would she? His editing skills are shit, but she hired him for a reason. 

[Lorx 392]

2 hours ago, cosmic_system said:

You comparing a picture from 20 years ago (or 15) with something recent? Also she pumped her lips in real life, that’s not photoshop. 

No, I am not comparing the two photos. The first one is old and was republished two years ago on Madonna's profile but edited with FaceApp, almost certainly by Ricardo Gomes. It's obvious because FaceApp makes everyone look the same in this way. There was even a photo of him holding his iPhone, showing the app icon on his screen.

What’s incredible is that the AI failed twice to recognize the sunglasses and created fake, strange-looking eyes. This happens sometimes with FaceApp.

See these two examples. It’s embarrassing. It's shocking that someone so incompetent is hired by Madonna, a global pop star with a 40-year career.

[TheGoth 673]

He is so cheap I'm sure he doesn't even subscribe to Adobe to use Photoshop. Effing facetune.

[Lorx 392]

44 minutes ago, TheGoth said:

He is so cheap I'm sure he doesn't even subscribe to Adobe to use Photoshop. Effing facetune.

I think he doesn't even know how to download Photoshop 

[Justice 361]

Some of the comments...

Madonna is the one who hires people. She does what she likes and wants. If we want to criticize, then let's criticize actual works like photos for magazines. Who cares about Instagram stuff.

This woman has done similar photoshoots for quite some time. It is always photoshoped photos with dark Hollywood glamour and "look at me, i am still sexy" attitude. If that what she wants, then it is fine. She also tends to work with the same people, because she created this comfort zone. That's why we are getting the same stuff.

She is obsessed with photoshop, but even some of the best photographers out there tend to use it and many of them tend to exaggerate just like Ricardo.

And, yes, Madonna also posts unflattering pics of herself on Instagram, which is unusual.

 

Anyway, I can't at some fans acting like Madonna is a boomer who knows nothing about photography. And what is with this generalization that all boomers are the same? Just because some boomer is amazed by some crappy photo or art doesn't mean the other boomer feels the same. You do realize that the same situation exists among every generations. Even Z generation can be amazed by the same shit like some boomer. All people don't have the same taste, or "the taste" to know what is good or bad. Some can see a nice pic, other can see many flaws on that pic. Plus, the best stuff Madonna did in her career was with other boomers.

Madonna learned some things from other artists. She has taste. That's why she worked with so many visionaries who also have taste. But Madonna is a human being too. She also can make mistakes.  Sometimes she did in the past.  And Madonna isn't the same person anymore she used to be. She doesn't care about everything being perfect. Sometimes she does perfect visuals on a tour (MDNA tour), while not showing the same passion for other projects (MDNA album). 

We talk about a woman who says that Cherish is corny or whatever, then proceeds to make Superstar, then talks about artistic integrity.

Like I said, Madonna isn't the same woman she used to be, so if you don't like the current Madonna, then stan the old one. I mean, even I tend to criticize some of her recent works, but it goes too far when we blame other people and act like she is a puppet in music industry. Yes, there are situations when her collaborators deserve to be criticized, but don't forget that Madonna approves everything.

She likes to go with the flow at this point, because she has other things to focus on.

Anyway, pic one:

- Classic Madonna (before Evita)

- Modern Madonna (from Evita to COADF) - mature, spiritual, improved voice, vocal effects, electronica,  British accent.

- Contemporary Madonna (from HC onward) - Messydonna. Sometimes great, sometimes "wtf", but we love her.

[pawn_shop_blues 722]

He isn't even consistent with filters. Each pic is giving different madonna and this is why he sucks. 

[pawn_shop_blues 722]

She herself was better photographer ngl. Miss her selfies like these.

[Magic Pussy 423]

2 hours ago, I am madonna said:

The only funny thing about this long, boring, horrible interview is that Ricardo is really trying hard to make himself look like a very important person. Yada Yada Blah Blah~~~ But The problem is, the whole world knows exactly what he really doing and what he really is. He's just a useless and incompetent Photoshop Bitch. That's all.

Based on that interview, his seemingly inflated sense of his importance to her is giving me Christopher Ciccone vibes . At least Ricardo must've signed an NDA which I'm sure is a huge part of her keeping him around the house for now. I wouldn't stay too worked up about it because Madonna evolves and moves onto the next. We may not understand or agree with Madonna's reasoning for the heavy filters ( as well as some of her IRL alterations) but I doubt it's a blind spot that hasn't been pointed out by at least one person close to her. She must like it. I'd guess her older kids, especially Lola, would let Mom know what's what without threatening their trust funds.  

[Gonzus 2,834]

22 hours ago, Adonna said:

She knows how filters work

I know, right? 

[Gonzus 2,834]

10 hours ago, cosmic_system said:

Sorry but Meisel is not the Meisel of the 90s

Neither is Madonna

[Gonzus 2,834]

On 7/9/2024 at 11:21 AM, TheGoth said:

The overuse of filters is a giveaway that his images have little to know substance to begin with

But it seems that's what she likes and wants, unfortunately. Speaking of filters, do we have to mention Klein's horrific photoshoot for V magazine? It's not the photographers' fault, though: it is she who's after filters and retouching.

[Gonzus 2,834]

1 hour ago, pawn_shop_blues said:

Each pic is giving different madonna and this is why he sucks. 

She did the same thing for decades by changing the colour of her hair, with different hairdos, haircuts and make-up. But now she sadly does it with filters. And plastic surgery and fillers. 

[Adonna 20,427]

1 hour ago, Justice said:

Some of the comments...

Madonna is the one who hires people. She does what she likes and wants. If we want to criticize, then let's criticize actual works like photos for magazines. Who cares about Instagram stuff.

This woman has done similar photoshoots for quite some time. It is always photoshoped photos with dark Hollywood glamour and "look at me, i am still sexy" attitude. If that what she wants, then it is fine. She also tends to work with the same people, because she created this comfort zone. That's why we are getting the same stuff.

She is obsessed with photoshop, but even some of the best photographers out there tend to use it and many of them tend to exaggerate just like Ricardo.

And, yes, Madonna also posts unflattering pics of herself on Instagram, which is unusual.

 

Anyway, I can't at some fans acting like Madonna is a boomer who knows nothing about photography. And what is with this generalization that all boomers are the same? Just because some boomer is amazed by some crappy photo or art doesn't mean the other boomer feels the same. You do realize that the same situation exists among every generations. Even Z generation can be amazed by the same shit like some boomer. All people don't have the same taste, or "the taste" to know what is good or bad. Some can see a nice pic, other can see many flaws on that pic. Plus, the best stuff Madonna did in her career was with other boomers.

Madonna learned some things from other artists. She has taste. That's why she worked with so many visionaries who also have taste. But Madonna is a human being too. She also can make mistakes.  Sometimes she did in the past.  And Madonna isn't the same person anymore she used to be. She doesn't care about everything being perfect. Sometimes she does perfect visuals on a tour (MDNA tour), while not showing the same passion for other projects (MDNA album). 

We talk about a woman who says that Cherish is corny or whatever, then proceeds to make Superstar, then talks about artistic integrity.

Like I said, Madonna isn't the same woman she used to be, so if you don't like the current Madonna, then stan the old one. I mean, even I tend to criticize some of her recent works, but it to going to far when are blame other people like she is a puppet in music industry. Yes, there are situations when her collaborators deserve to be criticized, but don't forget that Madonna approves everything.

She likes to go with the flow at this point, because she has other things to focus on.

Anyway, pic one:

- Classic Madonna (before Evita)

- Modern Madonna (from Evita to COADF) - mature, spiritual, improved voice, vocals, vocal effects, electronica,  British accent.

- Contemporary Madonna (from HC onward) - Messydonna. Sometimes great, sometimes "wtf", but we love her.

I may not agree with everything you post!  But THIS!  Point on!  The hatred for Ricardo is unbelievably ridiculous. None of us here knows him personally to criticize his actual mentality or his intentions.  Sure, we can criticize his work, but like you pointed out, Madonna chose him. She isn't naive to how he's presenting her.  Also, I don't think she takes it so seriously.  

[Madnness 252]

2 hours ago, pawn_shop_blues said:

He isn't even consistent with filters. Each pic is giving different madonna and this is why he sucks. 

 

This one grinds my gears.

 

[TheGoth 673]

#soon he will join the long list of hangers on whom Madonna will eventually move on from. Once they're out of her orbit she'll find a new toy to play with.