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Aiwa08 got a reaction from BuschieFandango in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW
Using "Youlean Loudness Meter" software:
"Vogue (from Celebration)":
Momentary Max = -4.62 LUFS Short Term Max = -5.80 LUFS Integrated = -8.81 LUFS "Hung Up (from Celebration)":
Momentary Max = -4.29 LUFS Short Term Max = -6.35 LUFS Integrated = -8.52 LUFS
In DB:
formula: dB = LUFS + 23
Vogue:
Momentary Max (-4.62 LUFS): -4.62 + 23 = 18.38 dB Short Term Max (-5.80 LUFS): -5.80 + 23 = 17.20 dB Integrated (-8.81 LUFS): -8.81 + 23 = 14.19 dB Hung Up:
Momentary Max (-4.29 LUFS): -4.29 + 23 = 18.71 dB Short Term Max (-6.35 LUFS): -6.35 + 23 = 16.65 dB Integrated (-8.52 LUFS): -8.52 + 23 = 14.48 dB These values represent the sound levels in decibels relative to the maximum digital level (Full Scale).
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On TIDAL, there's always an option to "normalize" songs to ensure they play at the same level. For my compilations stored on a hard drive, I use wavegain to adjust all the tracks to the same volume as the "Like a Prayer" album (for example, "Vulgar" sounds as loud as "Express Yourself").
You might wonder why I use the same volume level as the "Like a Prayer" album to 'normalize' my compilations. It's because it's the last Madonna album that features the highest possible volume with no dynamic range compression.
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Aiwa08 got a reaction from Boombox90 in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW
Using "Youlean Loudness Meter" software:
"Vogue (from Celebration)":
Momentary Max = -4.62 LUFS Short Term Max = -5.80 LUFS Integrated = -8.81 LUFS "Hung Up (from Celebration)":
Momentary Max = -4.29 LUFS Short Term Max = -6.35 LUFS Integrated = -8.52 LUFS
In DB:
formula: dB = LUFS + 23
Vogue:
Momentary Max (-4.62 LUFS): -4.62 + 23 = 18.38 dB Short Term Max (-5.80 LUFS): -5.80 + 23 = 17.20 dB Integrated (-8.81 LUFS): -8.81 + 23 = 14.19 dB Hung Up:
Momentary Max (-4.29 LUFS): -4.29 + 23 = 18.71 dB Short Term Max (-6.35 LUFS): -6.35 + 23 = 16.65 dB Integrated (-8.52 LUFS): -8.52 + 23 = 14.48 dB These values represent the sound levels in decibels relative to the maximum digital level (Full Scale).
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On TIDAL, there's always an option to "normalize" songs to ensure they play at the same level. For my compilations stored on a hard drive, I use wavegain to adjust all the tracks to the same volume as the "Like a Prayer" album (for example, "Vulgar" sounds as loud as "Express Yourself").
You might wonder why I use the same volume level as the "Like a Prayer" album to 'normalize' my compilations. It's because it's the last Madonna album that features the highest possible volume with no dynamic range compression.
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Aiwa08 got a reaction from LX54 in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW
Using "Youlean Loudness Meter" software:
"Vogue (from Celebration)":
Momentary Max = -4.62 LUFS Short Term Max = -5.80 LUFS Integrated = -8.81 LUFS "Hung Up (from Celebration)":
Momentary Max = -4.29 LUFS Short Term Max = -6.35 LUFS Integrated = -8.52 LUFS
In DB:
formula: dB = LUFS + 23
Vogue:
Momentary Max (-4.62 LUFS): -4.62 + 23 = 18.38 dB Short Term Max (-5.80 LUFS): -5.80 + 23 = 17.20 dB Integrated (-8.81 LUFS): -8.81 + 23 = 14.19 dB Hung Up:
Momentary Max (-4.29 LUFS): -4.29 + 23 = 18.71 dB Short Term Max (-6.35 LUFS): -6.35 + 23 = 16.65 dB Integrated (-8.52 LUFS): -8.52 + 23 = 14.48 dB These values represent the sound levels in decibels relative to the maximum digital level (Full Scale).
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On TIDAL, there's always an option to "normalize" songs to ensure they play at the same level. For my compilations stored on a hard drive, I use wavegain to adjust all the tracks to the same volume as the "Like a Prayer" album (for example, "Vulgar" sounds as loud as "Express Yourself").
You might wonder why I use the same volume level as the "Like a Prayer" album to 'normalize' my compilations. It's because it's the last Madonna album that features the highest possible volume with no dynamic range compression.
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Aiwa08 got a reaction from CHERISH2 in Like A Virgin (Remix/Edit), Material Girl (Remix/Edit), Bad Girl (Remix/Edit) & Cherish (Remix/Edit)
As I've said before, I need to be familiarized with the Extended Remix to do a good edit. I haven't play that remix since 1995. I hope you like it but it's not one of my best edits. I'm really sorry.
Secret (Junior's Sound Factory Mix Edit) 5:00
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Aiwa08 reacted to DoneGone in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW
Bass and volume booster and you're set.
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Aiwa08 got a reaction from Orko in Causing a Commotion
Thank God. 'Gambler' is so compressed (louder) that it sounds atrocious and distorted. 'CAC' is taken from the master without any alterations, uncompressed and with the original EQ.
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Aiwa08 got a reaction from madaboutM in RUMOUR: New The Weeknd, Madonna & Taylor Swift collab!
I'm still waiting for Madonna to do a collab that I actually like. The previous ones have always seemed like very simple and forgettable songs to me.
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Aiwa08 reacted to DoneGone in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW
I don't think they were intentional in the first place?
Keep in mind we're talking about mid 00s (2005 exactly) when the iTunes store was rising and Warner quickly had to put together a whole digital catalogue for the store (and later Amazon Music and the rest), when Madonna and Apple reached an agreement to add her music to the platform before the "Confessions" release (the infamous video chat announcement with Steve Jobs).
The easiest thing to do would have been ripping all the original CDs as they were, right?
Well, Warner don't work like that (other labels do). They always used (use?) original digitalized master files for the digital stores and now streaming, never CD rips. For some internal reason NO CD rips.
So the team in charge for Madonna's iTunes/digital catalogue just put together the albums tracklists with whatever they had available. The shorter Q-Sound Mix of "Holiday" wasn't created for the "Madonna" digital album, it existed already from a random 2001 Warner compilation. The original Q-Sound mixes masters of "Lucky Star" and "Borderline" must be lost or damaged, cause they have never been used on digital and they even found alternate ones for "Celebration". So the "New" mix and the album version were used for digital "TIC".
Also remember for years the extended remix of "Dress You Up" was part of the "Like A Virgin" album on Spotify, the extended of "Papa" on "True Blue", a remix of "Express Yourself" instead of the album version on Amazon...
It wasn't intentional. It was messy.
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Aiwa08 reacted to DoneGone in New podcast interview with Patrick Leonard
As far as I know, there's only one bit of 100% new information about M. on this podcast (all the rest he's told before previously):
Freddy DeMann was nervous about having "Like A Prayer" for the first single (super long song, too many starts and stops, etc.) until the day they recorded with the choir. He was in the studio that day and at some point during the choir singing he tapped Patrick Leonard's shoulder and said to him:
"It's the national anthem, isn't it?"
On the other hand, about the one take stories: while it fits some kind of narrative, they probably are for the songs Patrick Leonard always mentions, "Live To Tell", the "LAP" album tracks... all of them have some overdubs but the main vocal track is the same as the demo, at least for the only two demos we've listened to, "Like A Prayer" and "Cherish".
They simply did overdubs for the original vocal take or try different takes but kept the original and used the second for support.
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Aiwa08 reacted to DoneGone in New podcast interview with Patrick Leonard
https://www.youtube.com/live/60EjavjK2XU
No embed allowed but... this hasn't been share here yet, right? Done a month ago.
Madonna talk starts around the 26 minute mark.
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Aiwa08 got a reaction from CHERISH2 in [FANMADE] Borderline (Alternate Album Version - New Vocal Mix)
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This is the Instrumental Remix with the album version vocals added.
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Aiwa08 got a reaction from Holger in [FANMADE] Borderline (Alternate Album Version - New Vocal Mix)
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This is the Instrumental Remix with the album version vocals added.
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Aiwa08 got a reaction from Pierpaolo Nathan Corrieri in [FANMADE] Borderline (Alternate Album Version - New Vocal Mix)
Post lost in forum transition:
This is the Instrumental Remix with the album version vocals added.
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Aiwa08 reacted to DoneGone in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW
She's gone through a four decades career of material spanning different main formats: first vinyl mainly, then CDs, then digital downloads, then digital streaming.
True Warner could have put more effort when the digital era arrived and true her staying with them would have probably helped in doing so. I don't think they would have allowed "Celebration" as we got it if she stayed, for instance.
BUT with so many albums and singles, many of them released before digital retailers even existed, it would be almost impossible to not face issues even with maximum care.
It happens with any other artist in her situation, Kylie for instance, she has a complete digital catalogue but not free of issues with covers, some files, releases that are live and then off and then reuploaded, etc. etc.
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Aiwa08 reacted to DoneGone in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW
They fixed "Borderline" on the album (it was the Extended Mix instead of the proper album version up until last year) when the single was released but it was messy, as you said. They didn't dare to touch "Holiday" then, probably because of the weird thing explained in my previous post.
The short edit must be included on many playlists so maybe they don't know what to do about it and prefer to do nothing.
To be fair, managing such a vast catalogue is a nightmare. There's always going to be issues of some kind. Not an excuse, but an explanation.
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Aiwa08 got a reaction from sbrombolessio in [FANMADE] Borderline (Alternate Album Version - New Vocal Mix)
Post lost in forum transition:
This is the Instrumental Remix with the album version vocals added.
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Aiwa08 got a reaction from AutotuneBoy in [FANMADE] Borderline (Alternate Album Version - New Vocal Mix)
Post lost in forum transition:
This is the Instrumental Remix with the album version vocals added.
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Aiwa08 got a reaction from Boombox90 in [FANMADE] Burning Up (First Album Version) [Hybrid Source]
Ahhh, I apologize for the misunderstanding @RUADJAI
No, the first album version of 'Burning Up' is not available on CD. Only the video remix and the original 7'' and 12'' versions are available on CD.
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Aiwa08 got a reaction from Boombox90 in [FANMADE] Burning Up (First Album Version) [Hybrid Source]
What the hell is hybrid source? Well, it means that I took the instrumental version from a digital source and combined it with the vocal from the Japanese vinyl. It's not entirely digital, but it's an improvement over the vinyl-only version.
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Aiwa08 got a reaction from Boombox90 in Like A Virgin (Remix/Edit), Material Girl (Remix/Edit), Bad Girl (Remix/Edit) & Cherish (Remix/Edit)
Here they are, together in a Rar file.
This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up I'm sorry, the mega account is not mine, so I not always can upload what I want.
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Aiwa08 got a reaction from Boombox90 in Like A Virgin (Remix/Edit), Material Girl (Remix/Edit), Bad Girl (Remix/Edit) & Cherish (Remix/Edit)
This is my replica in WAV.
WORST EDIT EVER!!!!
I will hate the Secret Remixes for centuries.
Secret (Junior's Sound Factory Mix Edit #2) 4:57
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Aiwa08 got a reaction from Boombox90 in Like A Virgin (Remix/Edit), Material Girl (Remix/Edit), Bad Girl (Remix/Edit) & Cherish (Remix/Edit)
Just for fun I've edited the extended remixes of these songs to be similar to their album versions. They sound almost identical to the album versions, but they have new elements or instruments not available in the album versions.
Like A Virgin (Remix Edit) 4:04 *New*
Material Girl (Remix Edit) 4:01
Over And Over (Remix Re-Edit) 5:28
Cherish (Remix Edit) 5:01
Bad Girl (Remix Edit) 5:28
Secret (Junior's Luscious Club Edit) 4:54
Don't Tell Me (Tracy Young Alternative Club Mix Edit) 5:28
EDIT: All the remix edits of this post reuploaded in a single rar file:
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Aiwa08 got a reaction from dead or alive in [FANMADE] Borderline (Alternate Album Version - New Vocal Mix)
Post lost in forum transition:
This is the Instrumental Remix with the album version vocals added.
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Aiwa08 got a reaction from Madnness in RUMOUR: New The Weeknd, Madonna & Taylor Swift collab!
I'm still waiting for Madonna to do a collab that I actually like. The previous ones have always seemed like very simple and forgettable songs to me.
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Aiwa08 reacted to ChrisK in Bedtime Stories 30th plans -reissues?
It was clearly intentional - In my opinion, at that time they were considering what to do - and I think a reissue of the felt digipack was a serious consideration - but have thankfully now 'riffled through the old vault'.