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MPowered reacted to Andreo in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW
I lowkey missed the periodical Celebration slander... Still not here for it
Can we switch topic for once and focus on the real enemy, aka Madame X?
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MPowered reacted to DoneGone in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW
It’s definitely not the end of the world but they were not that miniscule when the label had to reprint the album two months after release updating and fixing four of the songs. And there were still more that should have been fixed.
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MPowered reacted to DoneGone in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW
It’s not about having free time, it’s about paying attention or not.
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MPowered got a reaction from Orko in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW
They fixed some errors but didn’t fix everything that was wrong with Celebration. I think the only tracks that were changed were Erotica & Cherish.
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MPowered got a reaction from Nowheretohide in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW
They fixed some errors but didn’t fix everything that was wrong with Celebration. I think the only tracks that were changed were Erotica & Cherish.
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MPowered reacted to Nowheretohide in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW
https://requiem4adream.wordpress.com/2009/09/19/celebration-a-retardation/
Here is what is included on Celebration.
There are 16 previously released songs featured in their full-length, original album versions.
BURNING UP
HOLIDAY
MATERIAL GIRL
INTO THE GROOVE
LIVE TO TELL
PAPA DON’T PREACH
LA ISLA BONITA
WHO’S THAT GIRL
LIKE A PRAYER
JUSTIFY MY LOVE
TAKE A BOW
FROZEN
BEAUTIFUL STRANGER
MUSIC – MASTERING ERROR: multiple digital pops and clicks that are not part of the original recording can be heard throughout this song.
DIE ANOTHER DAY – MASTERING ERROR: Track fades up late due to the incorrectly placed track index on the American Life album. This is ridiculous. The unaffected album version appears on both the US Promo CD single and the Die Another Day film soundtrack, all Warner Bros. releases.
HOLLYWOOD – MASTERING ERROR: Track starts abruptly and end of “American Life”‘s fade out is audible.
Of these, ten were released as singles in versions that differ from these LP mixes. I would have much preferred the inclusion of the difficult to obtain single mixes, but I’m in therapy and have mostly moved on. Mostly.
Fortunately, five tracks do appear in their official single versions.
SECRET (Edit)
RAY OF LIGHT (Edit)
SORRY (Single Edit)
4 MINUTES (Edit)
MILES AWAY (Radio Edit)
…and one more is a rarity from a US promo CD:
HUNG UP ([Unblended] Album Version)
Next up, there are five remixes lifted directly from The Immaculate Collection.
BORDERLINE (1990) (Q Sound Mix)
LIKE A VIRGIN (1990) (Q Sound Mix)
CRAZY FOR YOU (1990) (Q Sound Mix)
OPEN YOUR HEART (1990) (Q Sound Mix)
VOGUE (1990) (Q Sound Mix)
And now we pause to ask ourselves why.
The remaining nine tracks are unique to the collection. The first two are new recordings.
CELEBRATION
REVOLVER
One appears to be a from-the-vault rarity, likely included by mistake.
LUCKY STAR – ALTERNATIVE Q SOUND MIX
Virtually identical to the version heard on The Immaculate Collection, though there is noticeably more reverb on the “ee-yeah“‘s at the foot of each chorus. The music leading into the first verse is different (on TIC is was edited to match the original 7” version, on here it is not.) The most obvious difference is right at the fade, instead of the chorus it edits to a set of adlibs heard on longer versions of the song, but not heard on the Q Sound version. Odd, but inoffensive as it seems to be a genuine unreleased variation.
As for the rest, quality control has reached an all time low:
EVERYBODY – FAKE EDIT
This uses the full length, original 12″ version as its starting point (as did the official 7″ single version), but is structured differently. While the overall idea for this edit wasn’t horrendous, whoever was placed in charge of actually executing the edits needs to be tortured. Slowly… painfully.
DRESS YOU UP – FUCKED UP INTRO
What the hell happened here? This isn’t a mix variation so much as a mastering error… the album version started late with severe tape pinch/phasing issues right at the top. Of the four beats on the intro, all but the fourth are missing.
EXPRESS YOURSELF – FAKE FUCKING FUCK.
The most offensive. In a failed attempt to kindofsortof recreate the video version, they have taken the complete intro straight off of the Local Mix, “zipper” included. The actual, official video version starts at the percussion and is specially mixed to have echo on the line “Do you believe in love…” which is dry on the Local Mix and therefore not present here. This new monstrosity then incorrectly cuts to the 7″ Remix/Edit version and then again where they have BUTCHERED the song right at the bridge. A bad edit jumps the track from the end of the chorus to the repeat of the bridge which kills the structure of the track. This version is unlistenable.
CHERISH – FAKE EDIT
The original album version cut to the length of the super-short Immaculate Collection version. AMATEUR doesn’t begin to describe how bad these edits have been executed. Poor edits result in creating entirely new lyrics! How about this chestnut… “Can’t get away, I won’t let to” ?! They render all prior complaints about bad edits on Madonna’s releases void. Again, unlistenable. In the cases of “Express Yourself” and “Cherish,” why not just use the fucking Q Sound remixes?! They’re the exact same length as the fake edits and it’s not like there aren’t 6 others from that release present here.
EROTICA – FAKE Radio Edit
The edit points are around the same places as the OFFICIAL radio edit, but are poorly executed. The worst is around 3:30… they cut a beat late making for one of the sloppiest moments on this royalfuckupofacompilation. I don’t understand why this needed to be recreated as the official edit appears on countless singles and 2001’s GHV2 compilation. Oh. And the “surface noise” on the end of “Erotica” overlaps the beginning of “Justify My Love”.
DON’T TELL ME – FAKE Radio Edit
The least offensive/noticeable fake edit, but incorrect nonetheless. The true radio edit was a unique mix for the very last second that does not feature the “whimsical strings” tag. For Celebration, they have chopped off the end, but the first millisecond of this tag is audible.
Regarding the mastering: It sounds as though noise reduction was used to remove “tape hiss” which is unnecessary on most recordings post 1980. This process kills part of the high end of recordings. In addition, the entire album has a smear of bass over it. I really wanted to like it, but it sounds like a cheap “bass boost” EQ effect was applied to the songs, not proper remastering.
I had accepted the slightly shoddy sequencing, several major omissions and overall lack of consistency and attention to detail with the mixes chosen for this release. I love the look of the entire project, but I cannot understand the use of newly created, butchered versions of songs.
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MPowered reacted to Aiwa08 in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW
Why the tears? From Causing a Commotion onward, all the yellow CDs are practically indistinguishable from Madonna's other CDs released in different countries. By 1987, it was already common to use digital masters. The ones with issues are the yellow CDs from before Causing a Commotion, because the masters used were the ones intended for vinyl and the mastering for CD was done very poorly.
For example, these CDs are from 1989 and are from Germany (the same label that released the yellow CDs in 1995):
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MPowered reacted to JustinTimes in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW
I like the Celebration album too, I love singing Cherish with the fucked up lyrics
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MPowered reacted to DoneGone in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW
Who's Liam!!
My friend, as 90% of the time and with all respect, I don't have a f*****g clue of what you're talking about!
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MPowered got a reaction from Burroughs in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW
It’s sadly a few more 😅
Check the pinned post!
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MPowered got a reaction from kesiak in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW
Borderline - LP Version
Borderline - US Remix 6:56 (12")
Borderline - Dub 5:44 (12") also known as Instrumental
Borderline - Edit 3:58 (most 7" releases) same as the Video Version, an entirely new mix dine for the 7"
Borderline - Remix 3:56 (Promo Only) from the "It's That Girl" promo cassette, reconstructed
Borderline - Fade 3:59 (Brazil 7", BR 18.084)
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MPowered reacted to Blue Jean in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW
She hired her gardner to film / edit and has fans design single and album covers lol. I don’t think it’s that unusual or hard to believe a webmaster could or would edit audio. Half the people on this forum can do it.
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MPowered reacted to DoneGone in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW
I was just thinking today how probably Emily was the one doing all those questionable edits already on the "Celebration" compilation...
She likes to do her own edits. We saw it later on "Finally Enough Love" (more reconstructed edits) and the "American Life Mixshow" RSD EP.
Luckily for us she got better at it with time.
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MPowered got a reaction from Nowheretohide in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW
I swear, every year the discussion about the Borderline remixes comes up because someone is confused. 😂😂😂
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MPowered got a reaction from luckypierre78 in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW
I swear, every year the discussion about the Borderline remixes comes up because someone is confused. 😂😂😂
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MPowered got a reaction from Nowheretohide in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW
Borderline - LP Version
Borderline - US Remix 6:56 (12")
Borderline - Dub 5:44 (12") also known as Instrumental
Borderline - Edit 3:58 (most 7" releases) same as the Video Version, an entirely new mix dine for the 7"
Borderline - Remix 3:56 (Promo Only) from the "It's That Girl" promo cassette, reconstructed
Borderline - Fade 3:59 (Brazil 7", BR 18.084)
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MPowered got a reaction from Aiwa08 in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW
Borderline - LP Version
Borderline - US Remix 6:56 (12")
Borderline - Dub 5:44 (12") also known as Instrumental
Borderline - Edit 3:58 (most 7" releases) same as the Video Version, an entirely new mix dine for the 7"
Borderline - Remix 3:56 (Promo Only) from the "It's That Girl" promo cassette, reconstructed
Borderline - Fade 3:59 (Brazil 7", BR 18.084)
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MPowered reacted to Blue Jean in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW
God help if a bunch of Madonna fanatics ever meet Emily in a bar. She will be lectured for hours on end.
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MPowered got a reaction from Aiwa08 in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW
I swear, every year the discussion about the Borderline remixes comes up because someone is confused. 😂😂😂
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MPowered got a reaction from DoneGone in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW
I swear, every year the discussion about the Borderline remixes comes up because someone is confused. 😂😂😂
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MPowered reacted to Aiwa08 in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW
The 7'' remix is neither an edit of the album version nor of the US remix. It's a remix specifically for the 7''
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MPowered reacted to Aiwa08 in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW
A side 01 - Open Your Heart (12") 10:36
A side 02 - Open Your Heart (Straight Pass #2) 4:52
A side 03 - Open Your Heart (Straight Pass) 4:45
B side 01 - Open Your Heart (Dub) 6:26
The 7'' remix is just the Straight Pass (or Straight Pass #2; I can’t remember right now) with an early fade-out.
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MPowered got a reaction from Aiwa08 in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW
Are we gonna count the ones that were available on CD but happen to be lossy? 😅😅😅
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MPowered reacted to DoneGone in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW
YES.
https://music.apple.com/nz/album/causing-a-commotion-single/1763701702
It's not REMASTERED/BOOSTED/F**ED UP. Thank God.
Sounds gloriously QUIET.
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MPowered reacted to Aiwa08 in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW
Yes, at last the original sound for CAC without any atrocious remastering or compression.