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Wow ... I'm so curious about the unreleased tracks (we know there is one called React and now Can't you see my mind and the electro version of Xtatic Process).
Said that, I'm not a huge fan specifically of their writing together when it comes to acoustic stuff, they're good in making noicey and dancey stuff: I agree about Die another day being among the best M productions, but I think their electrofolk songs are melodically too basic and, even when good like Love Profusion or I deserve it, it has a strong influence on the result.
I think their best collab in terms of creativity is the Music album (Music, Impressive instant, Nobody's perfect - when vocoder seems saying something nd not just put there without a reason, Paradise, Don't tell me), their work on Madame X had points of exellence (BATUKA - such a gem and, yes, it's all about how the sounds reinforce the soul and the spirit of the whole message, Extreme Occident, Killers, I don't search I find, Ciao Bella)  and very low and messy failures in terms of experimentation (God control and, the most guilty one , Dark ballet, wich would have been such a good track herself). 

"People would always come and go for specific projects".....
And for that, we thank them.

"People would always come and go for specific projects".....
And for that, we thank them.

Has To Be is the one worthy of being included on an album release. 
I would have replaced half of the tracks on Erotica with The Beast Within.

Has To Be is the one worthy of being included on an album release. 
I would have replaced half of the tracks on Erotica with The Beast Within.

The Beast within strictly followed by Has to be and Cyberraga

The Beast Within for me!

Love this to death!! 
 

If only they did a KILLER video for GB instead of making that lame Secret Project thing… 💀💀💀

Does she have a new stylist? Cuz it's giving "I have a new stylist who knows how clothes should fit". Thank God.

 
 
 

Go watch Gwen's "Wind It Up" video and check out what the others did after that. I know the kids just think she's Blake Shelton's gf now. But Ms. Thing was THAT GIRL from No Doubt to those solo albums. Music and fashion. The closest she came to an M moment sonically is "Serious" on LAMB.
And can we be honest? LG's run as Ladonna was so much fun. I'd take it over everything she's done post Artpop. 
All of the girls are extremely lucky Bjork sings in Morse code and doesn't do straight up dance pop. It would be over.
 

You know what time it is. And you know how this place is. Everyone here thinks the last 15 years were no different from 1990.   

You know what time it is. And you know how this place is. Everyone here thinks the last 15 years were no different from 1990.   

She can pull on those numbers because her career was carefully and successfully managed for 35 years with one multinational record company and execs who knew what they were doing. She already fucked up her own record label and then thought I’m gonna go with a new venture again some years later? Instincts change too. What she might have had in terms of drive and instinct in the 80’s and 90’s certainly waned towards the 2010’s where her interests lay elsewhere. Hard Candy, MDNA and Madame X are the three most polarising Madonna albums in the fan base and probably outside of it. Rebel Heart is a fave of mine but it was messy as hell and certainly had its detractors. Her late starts times, her previously erratic and odd social media presence and continued messing with facial and assial perfection certainly shows her artistic and social metric has been somewhat distracted from her Warner years. Even the schizophrenic digital singles releases and the FEL tracklist where the woman is rewriting the charts for herself is a WTF moment. She don’t always make the best decisions.
 
Did everyone try the Black Madonna? 
I thought the Black Madonna was …… fucking dumb. 

Look.. I love my mom and it’s her life and career and it’s been brilliant and I’m just some ranting British Cig on the inter web. But we don’t have to gloss over the missteps and WTF moments. We’ve all probably felt a little “hmmm ok” about some of her career and personal choices since her freedom from Warner. She’s a women in charge. Good for her. But I respect her enough not to patronise her. She’s made missteps and her career since Warner has been patchy as fuck. 
..and now we’re at the mercy of her in house team (Ricardo god help us) throwing crumbs every 12 months or so to Warner HQ and not Warner creating them and Madonna signing them off? This is actually the worst thing I’ve heard about the deal so far and actually I’m a bit gutted at this new info. 

Prove me wrong mother please 🙏🏻 

It's a very interesting discussion happening here. 
I understand the deal with LiveNation, It made her a huge amount of money, and I completely understand why she signed with them at that time. However the other point of view would be if it was really worth it (not from money point of view). 
We can think whatever we want about Hard Candy, but she was still huge at that time. Sticky and Sweet being her biggest tour, 4 Minutes being a huge hit in US etc. Warner actually did a good job to keep her relevant. 
Deal with LiveNation made her money, but the main question here is if it was worth it having multiple years of messy eras (MDNA, Rebel Heart, Madame X) and, let's be honest, significantly dropping her status and relevancy as marketing genius and Queen of Pop. We can talk here about ageism in pop music as well, but I strongly believe the drop wouldn't be so drastical under Warner leadership. At least, eras wouldn't be such a mess and Warner would actually care much more about albums becoming hits (and trying to have a few hit singles). What happened after moving to LiveNation was they simply didn't care about any of the albums there at LN (naturally) and the albums (especially MDNA and Rebel Heart) basically became only ammendments and reason to tour,as I see it. 

The Live Nation Deal made sense at the time and they made so much money but she toured more in her 50s than ever in her carreer and that took a big toll on her. The albums had no A&R behind them and she was kind of lost

I mean yeah if you think Madonna getting an absolute shit load of cash vs what was better for her artistry, output and fans between 2009-2021 then great. I know what I’d rather have had as a fan. But yeah business wins god forbid artistry and output should triumph. 

I’d also add that while she was brilliant for a lot of her career her strongest asset was working with and taking advice from collaborators and record execs. Her career dipped like a mother fucker on so many fronts as soon as she said she was leaving Warner mid Hard Candy. Her instincts while good are not always great in terms of marketing her product. 

She looks beyond. 
And I love how Kevin JZ Prodigy goes up for her. The commentator telling the audience to scream. The old school girls just GET IT in a different way. I listened to an interview they gave and said M & Janet saved their life.
 

She looks beyond. 
And I love how Kevin JZ Prodigy goes up for her. The commentator telling the audience to scream. The old school girls just GET IT in a different way. I listened to an interview they gave and said M & Janet saved their life.
 

She looks beyond. 
And I love how Kevin JZ Prodigy goes up for her. The commentator telling the audience to scream. The old school girls just GET IT in a different way. I listened to an interview they gave and said M & Janet saved their life.