Neil

Adding a big fat “agreed on every count” to this post.

Adding a big fat “agreed on every count” to this post.

Just got Pit Tickets for Mexico 3rd Night!!!

you're probably right. I just got used at the first shows selling out so fast that i didn't even consider how the market works.
I mean Beyonce still has like half of her stadium dates with tickets available right now and she's about to start her tour, lmao.

I've said this many times before but I will reiterate. 
I am an avid tour box office/ticket sales watcher and there is nothing abnormal about how these newly announced shows are selling. How the original dates sold was what was abnormal. 
The days of instant sell outs are long behind us unless the artist has achieved a certain pop culture dominance that not many get to and/or the tour itself has drawn a lot of media commotion. That only accounts for 1-2% of touring artists today. In recent memory, the only artists to sell out arena or stadium tours immediately are Harry Styles and Taylor Swift. 
The sales rush Madonna experienced with the first dates came from the hype that was created around an artist of her stature doing a long awaited greatest hits tour. If this were just another album tour, we wouldn't have seen that happen. That was uncommon not just for her current standards, but the for the standards of most artists in today's world. 
Concerts are getting more and more expensive and people are less and less willing to spend that money for what amounts to 2-3 hours of their lives. As such, ticket sales tend to go much slower and we only see full sell outs in the days or sometimes hours before the show actually begins. On the Rebel Heart Tour, Toronto and Nashville both had a ton of tickets available in the week before the show, but by the time she was on stage that arena was full. 
Most people wait to buy either until they've saved money or until they know what they're going to get from a show. Only big fans get their tickets immediately, and as we saw, they did. This tour is not just catering to big fans, it's bringing in an audience she likely hasn't played for in years, and they move slower in buyng tickets just like the always have. The majority of artists won't have their venue sold out until the very day that the show is happening, and that is not some new phenomenon, it has been that way for well over a decade now. This show is months and months away, so no of course it isn't going to be sold out now. That's just now how it works anymore.
These shows will be just fine. LiveNation, the promoters, and the venue wouldn't have booked them if they felt they were in any danger of flopping. Once upon a time they'd take those chances, but not in a world now where touring is such a costly investment for all parties involved. 

These are great stats but they don’t tell the full story. Madonna hasn’t had instant sellouts like this *in the UK* since 2001.
(Have edited as I wasn’t clear I was talking UK only!) 

To help you out:
Cardiff S&S was under half capacity. Cardiff can house 70,000 for shows. 30,000 is still a huge number though. 
Wembley S&S was supposed to have two dates; the first show sold slowly and certainly didn’t shift Celebration level tickets in such a period of time. Again - 74,000 people for at the time was the biggest gross in Wembley history was still an awesome achievement - no misery here!
The second date to be put on sale for Reinvention in Manchester was papered and discounted to fill it. Her second S&S Manchester show sold under 3000 tickets and was cancelled. MDNA Hyde Park had a capacity of 85,000 but only pulled 54,000. Still a great figure! But remember Boxscores are submitted by the promoters, the sales are verified but capacities are obviously not (fans invented the concept of “technical sellouts” years ago to try and explain this but that was pure fan fiction).
None of the other shows you list sold as many tickets in such a short space of time. That’s not to say they weren’t fantastic sales but they still had a lot of tickets available long after the onsales. Which is normal in the UK - rarely do we see the level of sales for any artist arena shows like we did Madonna. The most I can liken it too recently would be a comedian, Peter Kaye, who sold 20, 30 maybe more arenas out in a day. 
Had she put 6 dates on in Birmingham and 6 in Manchester on top of the 4 in London they would have sold such was the initial panic demand; which then tailed off.
Anyway, hope this is useful context, the fact remains that Madonna hasn’t had this level of immediate sellout in the UK since 2001, and that is brilliant. 
 
(And no one is trashing her previous successes! Just keeping it to fact for comparison purposes)

These are great stats but they don’t tell the full story. Madonna hasn’t had instant sellouts like this *in the UK* since 2001.
(Have edited as I wasn’t clear I was talking UK only!) 

To help you out:
Cardiff S&S was under half capacity. Cardiff can house 70,000 for shows. 30,000 is still a huge number though. 
Wembley S&S was supposed to have two dates; the first show sold slowly and certainly didn’t shift Celebration level tickets in such a period of time. Again - 74,000 people for at the time was the biggest gross in Wembley history was still an awesome achievement - no misery here!
The second date to be put on sale for Reinvention in Manchester was papered and discounted to fill it. Her second S&S Manchester show sold under 3000 tickets and was cancelled. MDNA Hyde Park had a capacity of 85,000 but only pulled 54,000. Still a great figure! But remember Boxscores are submitted by the promoters, the sales are verified but capacities are obviously not (fans invented the concept of “technical sellouts” years ago to try and explain this but that was pure fan fiction).
None of the other shows you list sold as many tickets in such a short space of time. That’s not to say they weren’t fantastic sales but they still had a lot of tickets available long after the onsales. Which is normal in the UK - rarely do we see the level of sales for any artist arena shows like we did Madonna. The most I can liken it too recently would be a comedian, Peter Kaye, who sold 20, 30 maybe more arenas out in a day. 
Had she put 6 dates on in Birmingham and 6 in Manchester on top of the 4 in London they would have sold such was the initial panic demand; which then tailed off.
Anyway, hope this is useful context, the fact remains that Madonna hasn’t had this level of immediate sellout in the UK since 2001, and that is brilliant. 
 
(And no one is trashing her previous successes! Just keeping it to fact for comparison purposes)

Yes! Sorry if I wasn’t clear - my mistake! 
Re : Nashville - several dates looked like similar to this before Rebel Heart tour shows (Toronto 2 for example was half sold the week before the show, we were worried!). There are methods to fill arenas up in the UK and US - agencies specialise in selling cut price tickets and doing mass giveaways through local promoters and businesses. In the UK, Beyonce, Taylor Swift, Kylie Diana Ross, Steps off the top of my head have cleared THOUSANDS of unsold tickets the week before stadium and arena shows to fill them up.
 
I would also guess when the tour kicks off there will be a massive media campaign to highlight the setlist, advertise she’s back on tour with local markets re-hyping those 2024 US dates and possibly a return to Europe in summer 2024.

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I think it has a lot to do with slowly moving the production to Mexico - it's much more cost-effective to bring the whole stage production to the US and movie it around California/Nevada/Arizona on one side, and NY/Washington/Tennessee on the other, than to move it around Europe and then go all the way to Mexico from there. Shipping and travel costs are a major part of the itinerary. Tours are about making money first and foremost, pleasing the fans comes second.

Yes! Sorry if I wasn’t clear - my mistake! 
Re : Nashville - several dates looked like similar to this before Rebel Heart tour shows (Toronto 2 for example was half sold the week before the show, we were worried!). There are methods to fill arenas up in the UK and US - agencies specialise in selling cut price tickets and doing mass giveaways through local promoters and businesses. In the UK, Beyonce, Taylor Swift, Kylie Diana Ross, Steps off the top of my head have cleared THOUSANDS of unsold tickets the week before stadium and arena shows to fill them up.
 
I would also guess when the tour kicks off there will be a massive media campaign to highlight the setlist, advertise she’s back on tour with local markets re-hyping those 2024 US dates and possibly a return to Europe in summer 2024.

The Q1, the first quarter of the year is always slow for business. Having to pick up from Xmas expenses, ending the financial year. People having to take holidays (if they can) before March and the inflation and state of the economy right now. From now on is when summer festivals, concerts are more promoted and there's a tendency to spend more and look for leisure expenses. I'm sure all of the ticket sale will start happening towards June.

Yes! Sorry if I wasn’t clear - my mistake! 
Re : Nashville - several dates looked like similar to this before Rebel Heart tour shows (Toronto 2 for example was half sold the week before the show, we were worried!). There are methods to fill arenas up in the UK and US - agencies specialise in selling cut price tickets and doing mass giveaways through local promoters and businesses. In the UK, Beyonce, Taylor Swift, Kylie Diana Ross, Steps off the top of my head have cleared THOUSANDS of unsold tickets the week before stadium and arena shows to fill them up.
 
I would also guess when the tour kicks off there will be a massive media campaign to highlight the setlist, advertise she’s back on tour with local markets re-hyping those 2024 US dates and possibly a return to Europe in summer 2024.

Yes! Sorry if I wasn’t clear - my mistake! 
Re : Nashville - several dates looked like similar to this before Rebel Heart tour shows (Toronto 2 for example was half sold the week before the show, we were worried!). There are methods to fill arenas up in the UK and US - agencies specialise in selling cut price tickets and doing mass giveaways through local promoters and businesses. In the UK, Beyonce, Taylor Swift, Kylie Diana Ross, Steps off the top of my head have cleared THOUSANDS of unsold tickets the week before stadium and arena shows to fill them up.
 
I would also guess when the tour kicks off there will be a massive media campaign to highlight the setlist, advertise she’s back on tour with local markets re-hyping those 2024 US dates and possibly a return to Europe in summer 2024.

Yes! Sorry if I wasn’t clear - my mistake! 
Re : Nashville - several dates looked like similar to this before Rebel Heart tour shows (Toronto 2 for example was half sold the week before the show, we were worried!). There are methods to fill arenas up in the UK and US - agencies specialise in selling cut price tickets and doing mass giveaways through local promoters and businesses. In the UK, Beyonce, Taylor Swift, Kylie Diana Ross, Steps off the top of my head have cleared THOUSANDS of unsold tickets the week before stadium and arena shows to fill them up.
 
I would also guess when the tour kicks off there will be a massive media campaign to highlight the setlist, advertise she’s back on tour with local markets re-hyping those 2024 US dates and possibly a return to Europe in summer 2024.

These are great stats but they don’t tell the full story. Madonna hasn’t had instant sellouts like this *in the UK* since 2001.
(Have edited as I wasn’t clear I was talking UK only!) 

To help you out:
Cardiff S&S was under half capacity. Cardiff can house 70,000 for shows. 30,000 is still a huge number though. 
Wembley S&S was supposed to have two dates; the first show sold slowly and certainly didn’t shift Celebration level tickets in such a period of time. Again - 74,000 people for at the time was the biggest gross in Wembley history was still an awesome achievement - no misery here!
The second date to be put on sale for Reinvention in Manchester was papered and discounted to fill it. Her second S&S Manchester show sold under 3000 tickets and was cancelled. MDNA Hyde Park had a capacity of 85,000 but only pulled 54,000. Still a great figure! But remember Boxscores are submitted by the promoters, the sales are verified but capacities are obviously not (fans invented the concept of “technical sellouts” years ago to try and explain this but that was pure fan fiction).
None of the other shows you list sold as many tickets in such a short space of time. That’s not to say they weren’t fantastic sales but they still had a lot of tickets available long after the onsales. Which is normal in the UK - rarely do we see the level of sales for any artist arena shows like we did Madonna. The most I can liken it too recently would be a comedian, Peter Kaye, who sold 20, 30 maybe more arenas out in a day. 
Had she put 6 dates on in Birmingham and 6 in Manchester on top of the 4 in London they would have sold such was the initial panic demand; which then tailed off.
Anyway, hope this is useful context, the fact remains that Madonna hasn’t had this level of immediate sellout in the UK since 2001, and that is brilliant. 
 
(And no one is trashing her previous successes! Just keeping it to fact for comparison purposes)

All these US date will be sold out, probably when tour start(there are 9-10 months to them). I kinda think she will add another Europe leg next year for summer, they only  said US is finished.

Yeah what I can account for the speed of the Mexican sell outs has been impressive, since S&S as she she didn’t tour for ages. MDNA and RH second dates took ages to sell out, and Celebration did almost instantly.

Examples?

These are great stats but they don’t tell the full story. Madonna hasn’t had instant sellouts like this *in the UK* since 2001.
(Have edited as I wasn’t clear I was talking UK only!) 

To help you out:
Cardiff S&S was under half capacity. Cardiff can house 70,000 for shows. 30,000 is still a huge number though. 
Wembley S&S was supposed to have two dates; the first show sold slowly and certainly didn’t shift Celebration level tickets in such a period of time. Again - 74,000 people for at the time was the biggest gross in Wembley history was still an awesome achievement - no misery here!
The second date to be put on sale for Reinvention in Manchester was papered and discounted to fill it. Her second S&S Manchester show sold under 3000 tickets and was cancelled. MDNA Hyde Park had a capacity of 85,000 but only pulled 54,000. Still a great figure! But remember Boxscores are submitted by the promoters, the sales are verified but capacities are obviously not (fans invented the concept of “technical sellouts” years ago to try and explain this but that was pure fan fiction).
None of the other shows you list sold as many tickets in such a short space of time. That’s not to say they weren’t fantastic sales but they still had a lot of tickets available long after the onsales. Which is normal in the UK - rarely do we see the level of sales for any artist arena shows like we did Madonna. The most I can liken it too recently would be a comedian, Peter Kaye, who sold 20, 30 maybe more arenas out in a day. 
Had she put 6 dates on in Birmingham and 6 in Manchester on top of the 4 in London they would have sold such was the initial panic demand; which then tailed off.
Anyway, hope this is useful context, the fact remains that Madonna hasn’t had this level of immediate sellout in the UK since 2001, and that is brilliant. 
 
(And no one is trashing her previous successes! Just keeping it to fact for comparison purposes)

There’s clearly demand - fingers crossed there’s enough shows so people aren’t dissappointed.  
 
There hasn’t been this demand for a madonna tour since Drowned World, it’s so great for her.