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Ok guys, let's leak Regresando today uh?  I'll be waiting here ok? Thank you, thank you.

Do we understand that, at more than five years since her last album, the most exciting thing for us is to wait for the first of october and see the tracklist of an anniversary limited edition of a 30 years old album so we could check if maybe we will really get one or - but only if we are very very lucky - two old unreleased songs ...

I hate those people ... tell me the names, I'm gonna go after them!  

I hate those people ... tell me the names, I'm gonna go after them!  

Do we understand that, at more than five years since her last album, the most exciting thing for us is to wait for the first of october and see the tracklist of an anniversary limited edition of a 30 years old album so we could check if maybe we will really get one or - but only if we are very very lucky - two old unreleased songs ...

1. In terms of social and pop culture impact. If for social and cultural impact you mean sales, maybe. Frankly who cares who's the first one, the importance is being among them. The main thing is that M has always been a controversial character, she is devisive cause she takes strong positions on sensitive matters, provoking discussions, often offending some people. Now, nobody had that kind of impact for 25 years with the same ammount of success and attention. And a very few went on for 25 years releasing hits and classics that young people have at least heard around without knowing who was singing (if you watch some random reaction videos by youngest, they all basically say the same thing "I might have heard it somewhere cause it's familiar and wow so catchy, even if dated"). Madonna changed the rules of the game in terms of performing and visualizing the music she released. Now, this is for me social and cultural impact. Of course, in terms of sales, Swift or someone else will or have already surpassed her. But what is the cultural impact of Swift when many of us know that fuching Espresso thing by Carpenter and not one Swift song, except Shake it off?
2. In terms of peak longevity... Her peak is 15 years long, M didn't have such a long peak in terms of sales and general public appreciation, but that was not her only goal: M created always new stuff, she changed almost everything (image, music genre, discussion themes) every single time and often pushing people. So she didn't have that kind of peak but she was able to reconquer each time their attention and the appreciation of people who didn't like what she did three years before (the most famous episodes are ROL and COADF). And in terms of longevity it's interesting how, passed the scandal moment, the Erotica era especially, but for many also the American Life one, got to be considered among her best and underrated works, still appreciated by critics and who choses to explore her catalogue. So yes, Swift has a 15 years long continous peak, M had a stronger and overall longer impact and definitely a more innovative, wich means risky, approach to her work. Who knows what will be remembered of Swift's long commercial peak in time?
3. In terms of artistry, mainly songwriting. I just know people who don't know her or kids (my nephews and the children of a couple of friends) who don't appreciate her cause they say her music is shallow, flat so ... Still waiting for a generation hymn composed by her, like LAP, LIB, Frozen, Vogue or Music. And I don't think Elton John is a metre when it comes to judge M's work. 
4. In terms of youth appeal. M at 46 was in the ears, hearts and especially feet of millions of kids around the world who went back to school listening "Time goes by so slowly". The Erotica backlash was a phase, M always regained her numbers. At the age of 42 she went cowgirl and aaaall the kids and the young people clothes shops windows in the city centers were full of flared jeans and cowboy hats. The same five years later with the Hung Up bombers and leotards. And, once again about social and cultural impact, did it ever happen something like this with Swift? For M it was the norm ...
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Note: I sometimes read that the era of big legendary megastars is over, but this doesn't seem to be the case of Taylor Swift.
THIS IS THE POINT for me, I definitelly agree about it. I never saw such a stardom phenomenon as this one since the 80s. It was not Britney and far far far from that it was Gaga. They had their huge moments but Swift is a phenomenon, so she'll probably end up being one of them if she goes on, but surpassing M or Jacko is impossible cause they released songs that defined two or even three generations and created a way to make their job that was not as we know it today. That's what the Beatles did, that's what Elvis did. Swift sells, good for her.

1. In terms of social and pop culture impact. If for social and cultural impact you mean sales, maybe. Frankly who cares who's the first one, the importance is being among them. The main thing is that M has always been a controversial character, she is devisive cause she takes strong positions on sensitive matters, provoking discussions, often offending some people. Now, nobody had that kind of impact for 25 years with the same ammount of success and attention. And a very few went on for 25 years releasing hits and classics that young people have at least heard around without knowing who was singing (if you watch some random reaction videos by youngest, they all basically say the same thing "I might have heard it somewhere cause it's familiar and wow so catchy, even if dated"). Madonna changed the rules of the game in terms of performing and visualizing the music she released. Now, this is for me social and cultural impact. Of course, in terms of sales, Swift or someone else will or have already surpassed her. But what is the cultural impact of Swift when many of us know that fuching Espresso thing by Carpenter and not one Swift song, except Shake it off?
2. In terms of peak longevity... Her peak is 15 years long, M didn't have such a long peak in terms of sales and general public appreciation, but that was not her only goal: M created always new stuff, she changed almost everything (image, music genre, discussion themes) every single time and often pushing people. So she didn't have that kind of peak but she was able to reconquer each time their attention and the appreciation of people who didn't like what she did three years before (the most famous episodes are ROL and COADF). And in terms of longevity it's interesting how, passed the scandal moment, the Erotica era especially, but for many also the American Life one, got to be considered among her best and underrated works, still appreciated by critics and who choses to explore her catalogue. So yes, Swift has a 15 years long continous peak, M had a stronger and overall longer impact and definitely a more innovative, wich means risky, approach to her work. Who knows what will be remembered of Swift's long commercial peak in time?
3. In terms of artistry, mainly songwriting. I just know people who don't know her or kids (my nephews and the children of a couple of friends) who don't appreciate her cause they say her music is shallow, flat so ... Still waiting for a generation hymn composed by her, like LAP, LIB, Frozen, Vogue or Music. And I don't think Elton John is a metre when it comes to judge M's work. 
4. In terms of youth appeal. M at 46 was in the ears, hearts and especially feet of millions of kids around the world who went back to school listening "Time goes by so slowly". The Erotica backlash was a phase, M always regained her numbers. At the age of 42 she went cowgirl and aaaall the kids and the young people clothes shops windows in the city centers were full of flared jeans and cowboy hats. The same five years later with the Hung Up bombers and leotards. And, once again about social and cultural impact, did it ever happen something like this with Swift? For M it was the norm ...
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Note: I sometimes read that the era of big legendary megastars is over, but this doesn't seem to be the case of Taylor Swift.
THIS IS THE POINT for me, I definitelly agree about it. I never saw such a stardom phenomenon as this one since the 80s. It was not Britney and far far far from that it was Gaga. They had their huge moments but Swift is a phenomenon, so she'll probably end up being one of them if she goes on, but surpassing M or Jacko is impossible cause they released songs that defined two or even three generations and created a way to make their job that was not as we know it today. That's what the Beatles did, that's what Elvis did. Swift sells, good for her.

This hair and make up is totally Jean Harlow vibes =)

Ok this is just for super crazy fans of the LAP cover shoot as I am, cause the pic is almost impossible to enjoy but super rare. She wears the most beautiful dress of the session imo and she is close to the bramble where they also took the gorgeous released one   
 

It's funny cause the press is  pumping her all over and talking about her almost everywhere, but nobody who is over 25 can name or sing any of her songs.
She may win a lot of now useless VMAS awards (is Mtv still a thing?), she may have million of streams, but she has very little impact on music and culture.
I think the thing that reminds me most of Madonna's success is all those girls trying to dress like her. I was in London in August and the trains were full of this new generation of "wannabes".  Still, dressing as Madonna was almost a rebel move, this look is just superficial, glittery and conformist.

Do we understand that, at more than five years since her last album, the most exciting thing for us is to wait for the first of october and see the tracklist of an anniversary limited edition of a 30 years old album so we could check if maybe we will really get one or - but only if we are very very lucky - two old unreleased songs ...

Do we understand that, at more than five years since her last album, the most exciting thing for us is to wait for the first of october and see the tracklist of an anniversary limited edition of a 30 years old album so we could check if maybe we will really get one or - but only if we are very very lucky - two old unreleased songs ...

Who is tuning in to watch Madonna win?
Who is tuning is to see Taylor win?
It's all about viewer numbers and while Madonna might get a viral clip or two for a stunt Taylors fans will bring the viewers in. It's simple TV economics. Awards shows are not what they were. Don't sweat it.

Yep.

Madonna changed the trajectory for women in music and is highly influential and admired. Madonna is iconic and will be remembered for decades. They are not in the same league and never will be.

this slays me !!! and its so true too - her last album sold millions but no general music fan could probably even name one song of it(yet she still one loads of MTV awards - like that was a shock ) and yet everyone raves about how popular she is - imo she will never be in same league as M because she is not outspoken or takes any kind of artistic risks, she cant dance, has no sex appeal and just appeals to (mostly) vacuous teenage girls.... but i like her Lover album only ...

She has number 1 records and songs, and high grossing tours.
Shes successful. No doubt about that.
But her artistry and creative expression is not in the same league. And there will always be that distinction. So no, she has not surpassed Madonna.

honestly, does anyone knows any of her songs besides Shake it off ? nope .
so I wouldn't worry, Madonna is safe from that insignificant crap .

Do we understand that, at more than five years since her last album, the most exciting thing for us is to wait for the first of october and see the tracklist of an anniversary limited edition of a 30 years old album so we could check if maybe we will really get one or - but only if we are very very lucky - two old unreleased songs ...

yeah definitely ridiculous, such a pity cause all the rest was so on point this time: hair, make up, coat, bag, the falling on the street. But you know, it's our girl: she creates the Celebration tour and then she closes it with the Bitch I'm Madonna drunk granny nonsense  

Do we understand that, at more than five years since her last album, the most exciting thing for us is to wait for the first of october and see the tracklist of an anniversary limited edition of a 30 years old album so we could check if maybe we will really get one or - but only if we are very very lucky - two old unreleased songs ...

Do we understand that, at more than five years since her last album, the most exciting thing for us is to wait for the first of october and see the tracklist of an anniversary limited edition of a 30 years old album so we could check if maybe we will really get one or - but only if we are very very lucky - two old unreleased songs ...

Do we understand that, at more than five years since her last album, the most exciting thing for us is to wait for the first of october and see the tracklist of an anniversary limited edition of a 30 years old album so we could check if maybe we will really get one or - but only if we are very very lucky - two old unreleased songs ...

Breathtaking! This photoshoot