NothingReallyMatters

In Kabbalah aging is considered a sin.

this isn't a retirement tour 

From uk mix:
”more releases coming (allegedly 😉 )

You'll See (The remixes) - street date Oct 23
Nothing Fails (The remixes) - street date Oct 26”
I doubt her team would release two maxis in the same week, but at this point nothing would surprise me.
 
 

Tell me about it!!

I wonder if we'll get to hear Oh Father, Sorry, and Hold Tight in the future 

@Honey LittleI guess this answers why I am being the most silent about commenting on Celebration Tour, I could give some answer to him in the vein of what Roland Barthes did (ofc trying a different approach since I stan Kylie and as much as I respect M, I respect her too), I guess the level of talking we are taking here doesn't allow me to express myself, as I told you, I left socials for a reason. There's a way to express, the choice of words, and, most of all, the compromise with being direct and elegant. Calling M an "elderly woman," despite not being a complete lie, is something a M stan would never use as an argument for anything. There's something called RESPECT. Sometimes it's better to keep the motherfvcker shut up than say something only to worsen the debate. There was a time I was engaged to savagery, but time has only proven me how wrong I was. Sorry confideinmenow, but everyone can do better, I know you weren't insultating M in your heart but there are better ways to say something to current M is flawed. Especially because her stamina and willpower are still intact, no matter how much she ages. You all can call me pedantist or illuded, but I don't see any "elderly woman" doing what M's doing on this tour. This situation only emphasizes M's own quote displayed on I Don't Search I Find, "to age is a sin."
Btw, to answer DiegoLCL's words as they follow,
My only personal complaint about anything on this tour was to her choosing doing a cover, rather than using her selfpenned song, "You'll See," to express her driven desire to keep being alive for her children. But I also understand "I Will Survive" is a natural motto to this mindset as "Imagine" or "La vie en rose" to M's purposes for the tours these covers appeared. No matter if Shirley Bassey or Susan Boyle covered You'll See, I Will Survive will remain forever the anthem that it is. Actually now I praise M for recognizing once again the crucial importance of disco music in her input. Gloria Gaynor always deserves her flowers here and there, she's a sweetheart in many levels.
Other than that, no complaining from me. Even have applauded her choice of using The Beast Within the way it features on tour, while I was sort of crucified here for defending such an important song (more than a mere remix, a song in its full right to be one) to M herself and such a politic testament that since 96 CE has come to make people think about the danger of idolizing evil things, more than simply putting fear to naive Christians, these words from a time where the governant was dictating who should keep living and who should not based in his own tastes and ideas find echo to this date and forever will do while there's exploitation of the humanity by a small group of people.
Again, to me to be a M stan is not merely to love looks or anything external, but essentially the message she has always delivered. Angels = messengers, by ethymology, so the Good comes with the communication.

I'm not saying this to anyone specific here but I just saw another comment about how the little skit with Bob before Holiday brings down the show and takes too long and I went to check and it doesn't take more than 3 minutes!

We are living in a world where people suffer from attention span and if things are not clear, direct and quick they are quickly seen as bad. There's no way a show can be built like this. I sometimes wonder how people would react to the long banter of Blond Ambition and Girlie Show today... This technological world, and here I also include myself as guilty, where everyone is able to edit, modify and reimagine things as they are happening makes us fail to appreciate the artist's vision and appreciate things for what they are.

The show has 7 hits from the 80s in a row in versions extremely close to the originals, not counting those from the 90s and 00s that come later during the show and even so, there are people saying that she didn't think about the general public when doing the show. It's not her fault that the people who decided to leave the house and go to the show expect her to act like an artist that she never was and never will be. It's been 40 years, if people still don't know what Madonna has to offer, again, that's not her problem or her fault.

I saw a lot of people wanting Frozen instead of Rain and like, the songs are literal opposites in their meaning. Everything that Madonna puts on her shows has a reason, no matter how much we like or dislike a song choice, let's take some time to at least understand the reason for her choices and respect her as an artist with a vision, especially in a day and age where there are very few of these in the mainstream pop music.

If in the past Blond Ambition managed to be iconic and reinvent what is expected of a show with a Dick Tracy segment, and the Girlie Show is still revered in the fandom today, having that version of Like a Virgin and I'm Going Bananas, I think we are capable of overcoming something that we personally don't love in this great show without making it the end of the world and the end of Madonna's redemption as a touring force.


This is a woman who has done it all and is still giving it all at 65 years of age and 40 years of career, we probably won't be seeing anybody doing like her again. Let's be nice and grateful, it doesn't cost anything.

The show is amazing I can’t wait to see it again in December. Never thought I would ever hear Erotica and Open your heart in their original form. We get NRM, BS, Rain, and Demo of Burning up, come on peeps let’s enjoy it it’s a Celebration!!!!!

Probably a mix of this era.

Is this person supposed to be dressed as a version of her?

I've heard her going on about how she missed her and then give her a kiss, but I just thought it was some girl I didn't know lol

Yeah, I can't remember which member it was, but I thought the hope for this was delusional...I can't believe she actually opened with it 
Was SO happy to hear Up Down Suite. It's such a hidden gem in her discography, and it sounds incredible in an arena. For that matter, all of her 90s house music does. Really hope she's feeling inspired to make another house type of album in the future, especially with her celebration of ballroom culture as a big centerpiece of this show...
 

Sure, like saying you can take a crap in the bathtub because is in the same room than the toilet bowl. Of course you can but it doesn't means everyone else have to be exposed to your shit.
 

This tour is blowing my mind. I'll admit I thought that because she was so averse to doing a 'greatest hits' type of show for her entire career, that she might not actually enjoy doing it. I mean we all knew she would bring it from a production standpoint (she always does), but I wondered if she would feel somewhat uninspired actually performing it. Turns out it's exactly the opposite: Madonna hasn't looked this happy on tour since literally 1987. It's like she's discovering her own catalogue and realising, hey that's right I built that shit. There's a joy and sense of peace that she's exuding, she's smiling and having a fucking BLAST with her dancers... and a different type of performing style, less perfectionist machine with something to prove, and more just... confidently the biggest pop star in history and let's have fun with it. FABULOUS to see.
This is a special time to be a Madonna fan and feels like a career renaissance.

LOOK AT THIS GORGEOUS RECORDING OF OCT. 17 SHOW:
 

Technology is a curious thing. Back when I was just 13 years old, I had a VHS tape that played with scratches, pops, and all sorts of imperfections. It contained a recording of Madonna's Blond Ambition tour, and I watched it until it practically wore out. Alongside that, I had my collection of cutout photos from various magazines, and that was the extent of my connection to Madonna.
Fast forward to today, and it's a whole new world. We can stream shows online from anywhere on the globe. We have access to thousands upon thousands of images, videos, and information, all available at our fingertips. We know what was planned, what was discussed, and even what got discarded. Behind-the-scenes snapshots are readily accessible. It's all laid out for us.
Yet, here we are, discussing the most trivial details like Madonna's butt or a mole above her lip. It makes you wonder if we truly deserve all this.
The transformation brought by technology is astounding, but it also raises questions about how we choose to use it and what we focus on

"Herpes, butt talk again, she's lost, something's wrong with her..." OMG some people in here r never gonna stop? Holy f*ck... Thank God for the ignore button, honestly... 
I see her better and better each night, smiling, and having lots of fun and enjoying presenting her vision and her journey to the audience. Can't wait to see her in both Barcelona shows, spanish people gonna show how it's done when it comes to passion <3 :-P She looks and sounds fantastic, and this show is TOP already, some choreographies r the best she's done in a while. Damien Jalet is an ARTIST, the DAD one is gorgeous, u should check this
https://www.instagram.com/p/CybbkFCL11B/
"Act of living for love
Justify my love
Die another day

Are the numbers I choreographed for this tour

Thanks to @doni_q and @jamesvuanh for helping me developing « die another day » . this number could be also named « the struggle of the magicians » a ballet created originally by the philosopher Gurdjeff who s also quoted at the start of the song and in many movements of the choreography".

I think you are more obsessed with that butt than she is

The ass is still there.
She has lost weight. Everything on her is smaller.
Can we please move on from the subject?

this isn't a retirement tour 

It makes sense that is present on the show. As she always says Evita was such an important time in her life and career.

Im genuinely expecting a new Greatest Hits to be released with a new single at the end of November. Just cannot see Warner not capitalising on Madonna finally going on a greatest hits tour. 
I also think they will 100% make this collection an addition to fans collections by including some of the long forgotten singles she has performed on this tour all this before the inevitable live album. It's time to cash the fuck in. It's entirely possible that it will be a three disc repack of Celebration with a few more or her post Warner contract thrown in, maybe with a Chronological order. I don't think any of us really took the FOUR DECADES thing quite as literally when thinking about the concert as she really did go there in terms of sectioning of the shows. That could also be an option for a singles collection (one I would personally love). MJ and Prince both did separate CD's for their hits collections in the 90's
With the vinyl resurgence you can see Warner milking the fans with Four Double albums splitting the decades up and quadrupling their profits.
If it's a Celebration extended three disc affair ...
Max Martin Song Popular Bitch Im Madonna GMAYL Turn Up The Radio Girl Gone Wild Vulgar Human Nature Bad Girl Fever I Don't Search I Find Bedtime Story Nothing Really Matters Living For Love Medellin Crave Rain Ghosttown and rather sadly potentially some of those swapped out for Frozen on Fire and Hung Up On Tik Tok.
Hopefully its something more along the lines of a 4 disc doing the decades thing and we don't get fucked on tracks like Deeper & Deeper, Give It 2 Me, Gambler, Causing A Commotion, The Power Of Goodbye etc.
I think once this Greatest Hits period has all died down in a year or two we'll see the beginning of the reissues. Yes I'm positive that whole project has been put back a substantial way and will now probably start around the time of the not quite dead yet biopic. This is all ground work to rebuild the GP's love affair with her to 
I also thing the new model of releasing the concert to cinemas mid or end of tour is a new trend that is here to stay and will only get bigger. 
Beyonce and Taylor are the first. Madonna will be the next. Taylor tickets are £25 here in the UK for the cinema event. This is a new revenue stream for artists, one that people wont be able to rip and share online. It also bridges the gap between the new norm of very expensive concert tickets that people can't afford with travel and hotels etc and les fortunate fans who will be able to experience a concert type environment in a movie theatre. I loved watching the live concert of Truth or Dare in cinema and would 100% go to watch a Madonna tour in the cinema. What a hoot.
I also think the Renaissance tour was originally twinned with the timing of the new APPLE VR head set for the visuals but there is a delay APPLES end so the deal fell through hence no visuals. I think the multi camera thing Bey did and it seems Madonna may be doing is so these concerts can be bought to fans as an immersive experience with multi camera angles and you can watch them and look round the arena in the Madonnaverse. It's time to think ahead and while we are here bickering about old Maxi singles being uploaded it's minor fry when the powers that be are taking the next steps to innovate and reinvigorate the concert experience which is now where the real money is. Madonna spread dipped into augmented reality with the Medellin live performance. I think it's about to get exciting. 
Plus no late starts with a VR headset 
 
 
 

-The late starts are nothing new. This has been happening for over a decade now. Really, it started happening even earlier it was just irregular but from The MDNA Tour forward, super late starts have been the norm. 
-She has worn a knee wrap on stage since 2004. This is not new. The only difference is she doesn't hide it like she used to. 
-No one is really saying the setlist doesn't feel finalized, just that the ordering is a little random. But after opening night, it became pretty evident the reason it feels that way is that this show just doesn't follow her normal act-by-act structure as there's no themed sections, but moreso an overarching theme. 
-No one has said from what I've seen that she looks lost? Unless you're referring to opening night when she was dealing with the tech issues which is a normal response to losing sound. Otherwise she's been super engaged every night, I'm not sure where this idea has come from. 
She has been nothing but happy these shows, really. She looks like she's having more fun than she's had in years. It's nice you're concerned for her but all these concerns seem a bit unwarranted as nothing you're suggesting is worrisome is out of place, and some of it just isn't happening at all. 

Some people saying Rita Ora is the judge tonight 

Damn. They gonna leave her ass hanging off the ceiling with Ray of Light when they switch everything off tonight. But at least she'll be there tomorrow night on time 😂