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    Nowheretohide got a reaction from FreshPrince in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW   
    https://requiem4adream.wordpress.com/2009/09/19/celebration-a-retardation/
    Here is what is included on Celebration.
    There are 16 previously released songs featured in their full-length, original album versions.
        BURNING UP
        HOLIDAY
        MATERIAL GIRL
        INTO THE GROOVE
        LIVE TO TELL
        PAPA DON’T PREACH
        LA ISLA BONITA
        WHO’S THAT GIRL
        LIKE A PRAYER
        JUSTIFY MY LOVE
        TAKE A BOW
        FROZEN
        BEAUTIFUL STRANGER
        MUSIC – MASTERING ERROR: multiple digital pops and clicks that are not part of the original recording can be heard throughout this song.
        DIE ANOTHER DAY – MASTERING ERROR: Track fades up late due to the incorrectly placed track index on the American Life album. This is ridiculous. The unaffected album version appears on both the US Promo CD single and the Die Another Day film soundtrack, all Warner Bros. releases.
        HOLLYWOOD – MASTERING ERROR: Track starts abruptly and end of “American Life”‘s fade out is audible.
    Of these, ten were released as singles in versions that differ from these LP mixes. I would have much preferred the inclusion of the difficult to obtain single mixes, but I’m in therapy and have mostly moved on. Mostly.
    Fortunately, five tracks do appear in their official single versions.
        SECRET (Edit)
        RAY OF LIGHT (Edit)
        SORRY (Single Edit)
        4 MINUTES (Edit)
        MILES AWAY (Radio Edit)
    …and one more is a rarity from a US promo CD:
        HUNG UP ([Unblended] Album Version)
    Next up, there are five remixes lifted directly from The Immaculate Collection.
        BORDERLINE (1990) (Q Sound Mix)
        LIKE A VIRGIN (1990) (Q Sound Mix)
        CRAZY FOR YOU (1990) (Q Sound Mix)
        OPEN YOUR HEART (1990) (Q Sound Mix)
        VOGUE (1990) (Q Sound Mix)
    And now we pause to ask ourselves why.
    The remaining nine tracks are unique to the collection. The first two are new recordings.
        CELEBRATION
        REVOLVER
    One appears to be a from-the-vault rarity, likely included by mistake.
        LUCKY STAR – ALTERNATIVE Q SOUND MIX
        Virtually identical to the version heard on The Immaculate Collection, though there is noticeably more reverb on the “ee-yeah“‘s at the foot of each chorus. The music leading into the first verse is different (on TIC is was edited to match the original 7” version, on here it is not.) The most obvious difference is right at the fade, instead of the chorus it edits to a set of adlibs heard on longer versions of the song, but not heard on the Q Sound version. Odd, but inoffensive as it seems to be a genuine unreleased variation.
    As for the rest, quality control has reached an all time low:
        EVERYBODY – FAKE EDIT
        This uses the full length, original 12″ version as its starting point (as did the official 7″ single version), but is structured differently. While the overall idea for this edit wasn’t horrendous, whoever was placed in charge of actually executing the edits needs to be tortured. Slowly… painfully.
        DRESS YOU UP – FUCKED UP INTRO
        What the hell happened here? This isn’t a mix variation so much as a mastering error… the album version started late with severe tape pinch/phasing issues right at the top. Of the four beats on the intro, all but the fourth are missing.
        EXPRESS YOURSELF – FAKE FUCKING FUCK.
        The most offensive. In a failed attempt to kindofsortof recreate the video version, they have taken the complete intro straight off of the Local Mix, “zipper” included. The actual, official video version starts at the percussion and is specially mixed to have echo on the line “Do you believe in love…” which is dry on the Local Mix and therefore not present here. This new monstrosity then incorrectly cuts to the 7″ Remix/Edit version and then again where they have BUTCHERED the song right at the bridge. A bad edit jumps the track from the end of the chorus to the repeat of the bridge which kills the structure of the track. This version is unlistenable.
    CHERISH – FAKE EDIT
        The original album version cut to the length of the super-short Immaculate Collection version. AMATEUR doesn’t begin to describe how bad these edits have been executed. Poor edits result in creating entirely new lyrics! How about this chestnut… “Can’t get away, I won’t let to” ?! They render all prior complaints about bad edits on Madonna’s releases void. Again, unlistenable. In the cases of “Express Yourself” and “Cherish,” why not just use the fucking Q Sound remixes?! They’re the exact same length as the fake edits and it’s not like there aren’t 6 others from that release present here.
    EROTICA – FAKE Radio Edit
        The edit points are around the same places as the OFFICIAL radio edit, but are poorly executed. The worst is around 3:30… they cut a beat late making for one of the sloppiest moments on this royalfuckupofacompilation. I don’t understand why this needed to be recreated as the official edit appears on countless singles and 2001’s GHV2 compilation. Oh. And the “surface noise” on the end of “Erotica” overlaps the beginning of “Justify My Love”.
    DON’T TELL ME – FAKE Radio Edit
        The least offensive/noticeable fake edit, but incorrect nonetheless. The true radio edit was a unique mix for the very last second that does not feature the “whimsical strings” tag. For Celebration, they have chopped off the end, but the first millisecond of this tag is audible.
    Regarding the mastering: It sounds as though noise reduction was used to remove “tape hiss” which is unnecessary on most recordings post 1980. This process kills part of the high end of recordings. In addition, the entire album has a smear of bass over it. I really wanted to like it, but it sounds like a cheap “bass boost” EQ effect was applied to the songs, not proper remastering.
    I had accepted the slightly shoddy sequencing, several major omissions and overall lack of consistency and attention to detail with the mixes chosen for this release. I love the look of the entire project, but I cannot understand the use of newly created, butchered versions of songs.
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    Nowheretohide got a reaction from Veronica-Electronica in Which 10 Madonna Videos Would You Choose For A Weekend Rotating Playlist Right Now?   
    Burning up
    Open your heart
    Oh Father
    Vogue
    Bad girl
    Bedtime story
    Frozen
    Don't tell me
    Hung up
    Girl gone wild
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    Nowheretohide got a reaction from Adonna in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW   
    Here a recent (2022) interview to Stephen Bray:
     
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    Nowheretohide got a reaction from Voguerista in Which 10 Madonna Videos Would You Choose For A Weekend Rotating Playlist Right Now?   
    Burning up
    Open your heart
    Oh Father
    Vogue
    Bad girl
    Bedtime story
    Frozen
    Don't tell me
    Hung up
    Girl gone wild
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    Nowheretohide got a reaction from madgefan in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW   
    In this interview published by Madonnatribe, SB speaks also about the Madonna songs and their remixes (second part... the first part concerns the Breakfast Club)
    https://www.madonnatribe.com/interviews/madonnatribe-meets-stephen-bray-breakfast-club/
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    Nowheretohide got a reaction from Aiwa08 in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW   
    Here a recent (2022) interview to Stephen Bray:
     
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    Nowheretohide reacted to ChrisK in Causing a Commotion   
    I agree! 
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    Nowheretohide reacted to Aiwa08 in Causing a Commotion   
    I've never liked the album version. I enjoy the song thanks to the remixes.
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    Nowheretohide reacted to Aiwa08 in Causing a Commotion   
    Whether we like it or not, many remixes are superior to the original; that doesn’t mean the original versions are bad.
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    Nowheretohide got a reaction from Orko in Causing a Commotion   
    I've never been a fan of this song, but I think the mixes are far superior to the original version on the album, which is very weak.
    Movie House Mix, definitely.
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    Nowheretohide got a reaction from proxy in Causing a Commotion   
    I've never been a fan of this song, but I think the mixes are far superior to the original version on the album, which is very weak.
    Movie House Mix, definitely.
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    Nowheretohide got a reaction from TOpher in Causing a Commotion   
    I've never been a fan of this song, but I think the mixes are far superior to the original version on the album, which is very weak.
    Movie House Mix, definitely.
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    Nowheretohide got a reaction from Aiwa08 in Causing a Commotion   
    I've never been a fan of this song, but I think the mixes are far superior to the original version on the album, which is very weak.
    Movie House Mix, definitely.
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    Nowheretohide reacted to cosmic_system in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW   
    That’s true, but it’s “to go to gh” because it’s the most complete. I would take GHV2 over it any day. Great (real) edits and no mastering errors. If only it had the video version of Human Nature.
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    Nowheretohide reacted to kesiak in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW   
    Really? That version actually became my go to. Love how the rhythm guitar is higher in the mix there, makes it a but more funky.
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    Nowheretohide got a reaction from deathproof in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW   
    The edit of Lucky Star on Celebration is one of the few right things in a disaster compilation...
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    Nowheretohide got a reaction from rlittler81 in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW   
    The edit of Lucky Star on Celebration is one of the few right things in a disaster compilation...
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    Nowheretohide reacted to DoneGone in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW   
    Noooo actually "Borderline" and "Lucky Star" are two of the few good things coming from "Celebration". For some reason they sound GOOD. Both were alternate "Immaculate" Q-Sound mixes. Quite similar to the final ones used on "The Immaculate Collection" but with better structure, in my opinion.
    Plus the "Celebration" remastering those didn't destroy them, it helped. I'd dare to say "Lucky Star" has never sound better like in "Celebration" (which it's something considering that compilation). Maybe cause they used original unmastered files or something, since they were alternate mixes, who knows. For the rest I think they just used the final already mastered album versions, etc. and just applied EQ filters and s**t to them.
    EMILY I'M TALKING TO YOU.
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    Nowheretohide got a reaction from DoneGone in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW   
    The edit of Lucky Star on Celebration is one of the few right things in a disaster compilation...
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    Nowheretohide reacted to Blue Jean in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW   
    I don’t like the edit of Lucky Star on Celebration, it sounds crap. They should have used the single versions only.
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    Nowheretohide reacted to DoneGone in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW   
    I was just thinking today how probably Emily was the one doing all those questionable edits already on the "Celebration" compilation...
    She likes to do her own edits. We saw it later on "Finally Enough Love" (more reconstructed edits) and the "American Life Mixshow" RSD EP.
    Luckily for us she got better at it with time.
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    Nowheretohide reacted to MPowered in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW   
    I swear, every year the discussion about the Borderline remixes comes up because someone is confused. 😂😂😂
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    Nowheretohide reacted to Blue Jean in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW   
    It’s a remix, done by Jellybean for the single release and was also used in the video. There IS an album edit as well which is an edit of the album version with the hi hats. I can’t remember which release/s that was included on.
    The US remix/New remix/12” remix, also done by Jellybean is noticeably different to the 7” remix as it features cow bells, different vocal effects among other things. The ‘It’s That Girl’ version is an edit of that.
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    Nowheretohide reacted to MPowered in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW   
    Borderline - LP Version
    Borderline - US Remix 6:56 (12")
    Borderline - Dub 5:44 (12") also known as Instrumental
    Borderline - Edit 3:58 (most 7" releases) same as the Video Version, an entirely new mix dine for the 7"
    Borderline - Remix 3:56 (Promo Only) from the "It's That Girl" promo cassette, reconstructed
    Borderline - Fade 3:59 (Brazil 7", BR 18.084)
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    Nowheretohide reacted to Aiwa08 in Single Reissues Campaign - Causing a Commotion - OUT NOW   
    No, the Borderline from the Japanese CD-Singles Box is the regular 7'' Remix:
    Borderline LP version Borderline US Remix Borderline 7'' remix (Available on CD on the Japanese Box) Borderline US remix edit from It's that girl...
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