luckypierre78

No offence but I don't think Lady Gaga innovated anything. The electro-dance pop sound was already trending by the time she released The Fame (just the previous year we had Rihanna's Don't Stop The Music and Disturbia, Kylie Minogue's X album, Flo Rida's Low, Hilary Duff's Dignity album, M.I.A.'s Paper Planes. Rihanna's SOS was already 3 years old by then. The Dr. Luke/Max Martin/Bloodshy & Avant electro/rock/pop/hip hop sound was already in full swing after Kelly Clarkson's Since U Been Gone, Avril Lavigne's Girlfriend, The Veronicas 4Ever, Britney's Blackout and Circus albums. The tropical pop vibes of Eh Eh Nothing Else I Can Say had Kevin Lyttle's Turn Me On and Paris Hilton's Stars Are Blind as a blueprint. Musically, The Fame gave us nothing that hadn't come out before, just now with performance art lifted from David Bowie, Freddie Mercury, Elton John, and modern pop-art artists. Or if we want to talk about how Alejandro's reggae pop was a callback to Ace of Base, Born This Way was Express Yourself 2.0, The Fashion of His Love was I Wanna Dance With Somebody 2011, You & I was a Shania Twain song + the step step clap of We Will Rock You... I can keep going.

I would say Charli XCX and the success of the hyperpop album Brat is in direct opposition to this. We have Billie Eilish essentially giving jazz vocals and being one of the biggest singers in the world who makes music that you can barely categorize what genre it's in. We have Kacey Musgraves blurring the lines between disco, country, pop, and folk. Chappell Roan is a lesbian drag queen. Beyonce made a country album where one of the songs samples one of the biggest 90's rave anthems of all time - Underworld's Born Slippy.NUXX. Even that last sentence is INSANE. There will always be bottom of the barrel garbage in pop music (Jennifer Lopez - not to say that I don't like some of her music, but man she cannot sing and her songs are vapid). There will always be high quality but "safe" pop (Dua Lipa, Sabrina Carpenter) because the music industry is a business and things need to be profitable. Taylor Swift and Olivia Rodrigo might be on the more commercial side of things but their deeply personal, emotional and insightful lyrics set them apart. I would say the current state of pop music is almost the most inventive and innovative it's been since the pre-electronic/post-electronic divide of the late 70's-early 80's. The reason why is likely because kids today grew up downloading/streaming whatever they wanted and had the entire history of music available with a few strokes of the keyboard. So artists nowadays are reflecting that by blending genres to the point where straight up "pop" music is hard to come by. The kids are alright.

Both aren't the world's greatest singer, so at least that's comparable lol. Saying this as a fan of both

I'm a 40 year old gay man and I know every Taylor Swift album except her self titled. I think a lot of you have your heads stuck in the sand if your idea of Taylor Swift's music is "teeny bopper" and you're talking about Shake It Off. That song is almost a decade old and if going by total stream count is only her FIFTH most popular song. The string of Folklore/Evermore/Midnights/The Tortured Poets Department have most people in the music industry praising her songwriting ability. Adele, Billy Joel, Carole King, Stevie Nicks, Ringo Starr, Bruce Springsteen, Phoebe Bridgers, Olivia Rodrigo, Jon Bon Jovi, and Dolly Parton have all praised her songwriting. Taylor might not write songs that you specifically like to listen to, but to discredit her songwriting ability is basically saying some of the people known for being the best lyricists of all time have no idea what they're talking about. Multiple women can make good music. It's ok.

Does anyone know if there's still like a 6 month lead time for vinyl production? If any of these reissues would be released on vinyl (which is highly likely) I would expect retailers to have advanced knowledge. Which unfortunately means that if we don't know anything at the moment it's probably not coming any time #soon (unless she releases digital only and then makes us all wait several months for the vinyl versions).

I don't know... I've seen BOTH Madonna and Charli XCX rumoured to both be collaborating with Taylor Swift (and also both with Katy Perry). Makes me think they're all fake rumours.

Guess there's no Holiday single this week? It was a long shot, but does this now mean the releases are going to stretch until September 2025? Ugh