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It’s so wild to me that that remix hasn’t done better. I guess neither artists’ fans were feeling it. I think it’s great but apparently in the minority. 

I learned recently that even though she doesn’t seem to get that much media coverage, P!nk apparently still has very devoted fans. Who knew.

Who the fuck is still streaming Pink and Sia? 

A thought crossed my mind while listening to some of the Lucas demos that @tscott has posted here. Diana Ross released a deluxe anniversary edition of her diana album a few years back and it included the original Chic mixes that she’d disliked and had Motown adjust prior to release. It would be cool if M did that with the original Lucas mixes or demos.  
 
Granted we all know she’s picky about only allowing things to be heard the way she wants them heard, and we still don’t know what, if anything, we’re getting. But a boy can dream…

I don’t mind them. They’re a bit trebly but at least they sound clear. Granted I’m not a fastidious audiophile and just listen to music on my phone w/regular old ear buds. Gambler to me just sounds authentic of it’s time. Everybody is a bit tinny but then on Celebration it sounds muddy in comparison.
I don’t always have volume equalizing active bc while it helps sometimes, it inadvertently causes other occasional issues. TIC for example has a strange, progressive volume decrease with sound check enabled that doesn’t happen w/out it. 

This is probably my overall favorite track associated with the album. I just love the raw, soulful extra vocals at the end.

This is probably my overall favorite track associated with the album. I just love the raw, soulful extra vocals at the end.

If they called Lu Con’t mix a Dub, I wouldn’t have a problem with it, as I do love the production.
So many fans just get so wet over it like the A&B Dub of What It Feels Like, that have hardly any vocals.
As dubs, I can really get into them.
Someone posted a fanmade vocal mix of the Lu Cont mix with most of the vocals and it was excellent!

I assumed so. They’re louder and have slightly better sound quality than some of the tracks.
That release is so weird. About half the tracks, including the dubs, are noticeably louder than the others. Not sure what was going on there.

I mean that’s kind of dubs in general tho, no? They’re just dj/remixer showcases. I get annoyed when they get included in remix singles. Leave them on white labels where they belong.
I’m still annoyed about the Like A Prayer remixes and that they made a big deal about the dubs they exhumed, even remastering them, while the dance mix, club version and extended remix sound like they’re lifted from an old Remixed Prayers cd.

I’d say they performed about the same in most major markets. EY is just more remembered. The Born This Way situation helped that a bit.
But he’s right, the IC mix of EY ctrl + H replaced the album version in the public consciousness, to the point I think some people don’t know the album version even exists. For a while I thought the same was going to happen w/LAP as the IC mix seemed to get all the recurrent airplay in the 90s-00s. I guess including the album version on Celebration saved it.

I’d say they performed about the same in most major markets. EY is just more remembered. The Born This Way situation helped that a bit.
But he’s right, the IC mix of EY ctrl + H replaced the album version in the public consciousness, to the point I think some people don’t know the album version even exists. For a while I thought the same was going to happen w/LAP as the IC mix seemed to get all the recurrent airplay in the 90s-00s. I guess including the album version on Celebration saved it.

Who’d have thought MIA’s stans would be more supportive than the barbz…
Immaculate unfortunately did seem to fall out of favor in the streaming era after holding its own through the digital sales era. That’s why I think it’s nice they released that remastered for atmos version to sort of renew interest. Even if it won’t matter much on spotify.
It’s interesting how things vary from spotify to apple. On 🍎 it’s primarily the original album versions of her classics that get the highest streams. The power of playlisting I guess. Even TIC tracks stream better than their Celebration counterparts, which seem to get very little.

Who’d have thought MIA’s stans would be more supportive than the barbz…
Immaculate unfortunately did seem to fall out of favor in the streaming era after holding its own through the digital sales era. That’s why I think it’s nice they released that remastered for atmos version to sort of renew interest. Even if it won’t matter much on spotify.
It’s interesting how things vary from spotify to apple. On 🍎 it’s primarily the original album versions of her classics that get the highest streams. The power of playlisting I guess. Even TIC tracks stream better than their Celebration counterparts, which seem to get very little.

Thought this might be interesting to look at. Done by hand so hopefully not too many errors :/
MADONNA  2001 remaster
Holiday - 90,206,549 Lucky Star - 26,277,004 Borderline - 20,113,741(IC combined) Burning Up - 11,030,403 (Celebration combined) Physical Attraction - 3,959,698 (YCD combined) Everybody - 3,519,864 Think Of Me - 2,276,279 I Know It - 1,665,270 LIKE A VIRGIN 2001 remaster 
Like A Virgin - 233,164,328 (the original album version is the dominant streaming version. No IC or Celebration included The only non combined album track in her streaming top 10) Material Girl - 48,427,096 Angel - 9,368,639 Dress You Up - 7,606,903 Love Don't Live Here Anymore - 3,225,001 Over & Over - 2,897,515 Stay - 1,661,391 Shoo-be-doo - 1,575,302 Pretender - 1,553,294 Bonus:
Crazy For You - 107,886,915 (IC + Celebration + STR boost)  Into The Groove - 102,813,470 (Celebration only) Gambler - 567,908 Surprised Dress You Up had less streams than Angel but I suppose people use the Celebration version
TRUE BLUE 2001 remaster
La Isla Bonita - 297,490,637 (Celebration boost) Papa Don't Preach - 109,242,120 (Celebration boost) Live To Tell - 47,171,230 (Celebration, STR & IC boost) True Blue - 42,143,757 Open Your Heart - 15,009,678 Where's The Party - 3,766,852 White Heat - 2,981,689 Jimmy Jimmy - 2,341,194 Love Makes The World Go Round - 2,083,554 True Blue the singles streaming power without its appearance on any compilation is really impressive. A true titan in her discography. Just behind Open Your Heart even if you combine TB / IC / Celebration and the album version and not far behind Live To Tell which has appeared on 4 Madonna albums (TB, STR, IC & Celebration).
 
WHO"S THAT GIRL
Who's That Girl - 29,488,976 (Celebration boost) Causing A Commotion - 7,087,242 The Look Of Love - 1,523,515 Can't Stop - 664,049 Bonus : Spotlight - 1,371,872
 
LIKE A PRAYER
Like A Prayer - 90.835,688 Cherish - 11,984.794 Express Yourself - 11,097,461 Dear Jessie - 5,4566,777 Spanish Eyes - 4,816,772 Oh Father - 4,425,434 Til Death Do Us Part - 2,474,228 Keep It Together - 2.270,156 Promise To Try - 1,987,364 Love Song - 1,793,196 Act Of Contrition - 1,000,506 Bonus:
Supernatural - 499,440 Spanish Eyes and Dear Jessie being higher than Oh Father and Keep It Together is a shocker
 
I'M BREATHLESS
Vogue - 23.035,863 Hanky Panky - 3,424,952 Something To Remember - 1.585,054 (STR combined) Sooner Or Later - 1,519,750 He's A Man - 674,035 I'm Going Bananas - 631,172 More - 588,833 Back In Business - 597,001 Now I'm Following You 1 - 567,613 What Can You Lose - 518,682 Cry Baby - 481,932 Now I'm Following You 2 - 428,234 Bonus:
Justify My Love - 22.011,640 Rescue Me - 2,913,591 EROTICA 
Rain - 18,631,465 (STR boost) Deeper & Deeper - 9,723,901 Erotica - 8,438,939 Fever - 4,681,379 Bad Girl - 4,173,526 Bye Bye Baby - 2,506,900 Where Life Begins - 2,111,141 Waiting - 2,224,186 Thief Of Hearts - 2,023,184 Why Is It So Hard - 1,523,391 Words - 1,459,400 Secret Garden - 1,416,001 In This Life - 1,158,664 Did You Do It - 574,644  
 
BEDTIME STORY
Take A Bow - 49,318,288 (Celebration @ STR boost) Secret - 17,457,926 Human Nature - 8.714,790 Bedtime Story - 3,718,547 Forbidden Love - 2,964,253 (STR Boost) Survival - 2,156,051 Inside Of Me - 2,102,546 Love Tried To Welcome Me - 1,781,682 I'd Rather Be Your Lover - 1,747,484 Sanctuary - 1,673,043 Don't Stop - 1,668,559 Kind of crazy that Don't Stop was being considered a single really when it's obviously the least popular song on the album. 
 
SOMETHING TO EVITA
Ill Remember - 15,303,894 You'll See - 13,144,560 This Used To Be My Playground - 10,533,568 I Want You - 4,194,475 Love Don't Live Here Anymore - 1,683,030 (non combined with LAV) One More Chance - 1,514,054 Oh Father - 1,113,848 (non combined with LAP)  
Don't Cry For Me Argentina - 25,621,340 You Must Love Me - 4,304,081 Another Suitcase In Another Hall - 3,207,015 Kinder Beunos Aires - 2,825,669  I'd Be Surprisingly Good For You - 2,335,668  
RAY OF LIGHT
Frozen - 70,330,737 Ray Of Light - 44,660,158 The Power Of Goodbye - 41,304,921 (GHV2 Combined) Nothing Really Matters - 11,551,330 Drowned World - 9,415,646 (GHV2 Combined) Swim - 5,046,404 Sky Fits Heaven - 4,757,279 To Have And Not To Hold - 4,598,050 Skin - 4,467,850 Shanti / Ashtangi - 4,330,655 Little Star - 3,445,685 Candy Perfume Girl - 3,404,512 Mer Girl - 2,516,359 Bonus:
Beautiful Stranger - 23,804,864 (Austin Powers ST + Celebration Combined) Has To Be - 348, 261 (ROL EP)  
MUSIC
Music - 69,546,337 (Celebration Combined) American Pie - 49,199,953 Don't Tell Me - 27,118,143 What It Feels Like For A Wench - 9,699,530 Paradise Not For Me - 3,398,704 (Mirwais Production Combined) Impressive Instant - 3,331,482 Amazing - 3,072,627 I Deserve It - 2,819,698 Nobody's Perfect - 2,672,351 Gone - 2,325,653 Runaway Lover - 2,059,509 Bonus:
Time Stood Still - 909,327 amazing for a lost soundtrack song American Pie is another titan of hers. Doesn't appear on any collection and I severely doubt The Next Best Thing soundtrack is providing the numbers.
 
AMERICAN LIFE
Die Another Day - 37,340,606 (Celebration Boost + DAD soundtrack Combined) Hollywood - 19,701,775 (Celebration Combined) American Life - 7,712,288 Love Profusion - 7,375,361 Nothing Fails - 4,038,651 Nobody Knows Me - 2,433,433 I'm So Stupid - 2,291,792 X-static Process - 1,991,589 Intervention - 1,972, 478 Mother & Father - 1,920,593 Easy Ride - 1,704,612 Bonus:
Me Against The Music - 56,333,047 (the feat trend begins) Like A Virgin / Hollywood (Xtina, Brit, Missy) - 3,965,563 Into The Hollywood Groove (Missy) - 977,423 Your Honesty - 360,162 Seems like everybody switched the record off after Nothing Fails on this one. I don't have much love for Easy Ride but it seems like such a fan favourite I thought it would have done better. 
 
CONFESSIONS ON A DANCEFLOOR
Hung Up - 337,447,535 (Celebration Combined) Sorry - 52,117,522 Jump - 36,388,597 Get Together - 23,132,349 Forbidden Love - 10,027,434 Future Lovers - 8,309,362 Isaac - 7,255,598 I Love NY - 6,824,668 Let It Will Be - 6,206,833 How High - 5,884,349 Like It Or Not - 5,101,254 Push - 5,084,621 Bonus: 
1. Hey You - 618,365
Surprised at Jump having so many more streams than Get Together as I really thought Get Together was considered one of her modern "ignored by her" classics. 
 
HARD CANDY
4 Minutes - 43,064,617 Give It 2 Me - 41,713,790 Miles Away - 11,565,646 Beat Goes On - 6,092,148 She's Not Me - 5,120,884 Candy Shop - 4,552,810 Heartbeat - 3,584,466 Devil Wouldn't Recognise You - 3,013,175 Dance 2nigh - 2,308,165 Incredible - 1,912,682 Spanish Lesson - 1,657,866 Voices - 1,593,092 Ring My Bell - 865,296 Bonus:
Celebration - 34,241,695 Revolver - 9,701,826 It's So Cool - 592,212 Her first messy era. Miles Away release bungled and the brilliant Kanye track being left to flounder on the album. Secretly love that Candy Shop has such underwhelming streams even after she's pushed it on tour after tour after tour (her most performed live track ever?). Proof that Warner were right all along really.
MDNA
Girl Gone Wild - 46,653,404 GMAYL - 34,679,332 Masterpiece - 8,505,803 (W.E OST combined) Gang Bang - 6,358,997 Turn Up The Radio - 5,712,150 Bday Song - 5,252,235 (WTF!!!) I Don't Give A - 4,113,299 I'm Addicted - 4,065,845 Lovspent - 2,891,297 Some Girls - 2,713,779 Beautiful Killer - 2,650,053 Superstar - 2,435,512 I'm A Sinner - 2,247,411 Falling Free - 2,152,161 I Fucked Up - 1,569,293 Best Friend - 1,523,863 Bday Song and I Don't Give A showing the power of a feature I guess. The era where taste seemed to die for me and her first steaming released album era. We're into Maddona picking her own singles now and after the Justin success we move into features territory and you can see they really bolster the weaker songs. BDAY songs streams are a shocker to me. LoveSpent and I'm A Sinners low numbers were a bit of a surprise. In fact Masterpiece and Gang Bang aside Orbits songs really didn't seem to work any magic with the GP as all the rest of his contributions sit in the bottom half of the albums streaming numbers. Even his top streamed tracks only have about 1/6th of the top two streamed tracks. That's sad huh?
There's also a mad anomaly on the W.E. soundtrack. Masterpiece is only the third most streamed song. Charms and Dance For Me Wallis the instrumentals by Abel Korzeniowski have 11,874,069 and 29,278,973 streams respectively. Don't know what's going on there. 
 
REBEL HEART
Bitch I'm Madonna (Nicki)- 91,410,850 Ghosttown - 36,378,982 Living For Love - 34,998,212 Devil Pray - 18,142,000 Unapologetic Bitch - 16,657,315 Joan Of Arc - 11,099,255 Iconic (Chance & Mike)- 9,783,500 illuminati - 7,435,278 Hold Tight - 6,716,455 Holy Water - 5,523,353 Rebel Heart - 5,350,955 Heartbreak City - 5,046,430 Inside Out - 4,604,608 Body Shop - 4,249,264 Wash All Over Me - 4,194,899 S.E.X - 3,713,561 Messiah - 2,963,863 Veni Vidi Vici (Nas) - 2,690,128 Best Night - 2,612,871 Addicted - 930, 262 Beautiful Scars - 904,396 Borrowed Time - 547,148 Graffiti Heart - 453,241 Rebel Heart Avicci version in my iTunes - 1,656,989,091 What a project. I think as time goes on this feels like such a classic Madonna era besides all the leaks drama (which probably added to it, I personally loved the three stage drop of sections of songs and I'll never forgive that twerp who leaked them for fucking top Rebel heart as a single for us all. Her best in years.
 
MADAME X
Medellin (Maulma)- 68,5556,113 Faz Gostoso (Anitta)- 43,677,564 Crave (Swae Lee) - 14,678,815 Future (Quavo)- 13,451,337 God Control - 11,128,966 Bitch I'm Loca (Maluma) - 9,011,664 Dark Ballet - 8,903,218 Crazy - 8,496,688 I Rise - 8,063,749 IDSIF - 6,313,661 Batuka - 5,619,204 Come Alive - 5,305,729 Killers Who Are Partying - 5,224,976 Looking For Mercy - 4,772,894 Extreme Occident - 3,735,814 Back That Up To The Beat - 222,811 Ciao Bella - 124,346 Funana - 73,666 And as her previous three eras leaned into we are well into the age of the features. All the songs on the top 6 are duets or features with the acceptation of the exquisite God Control which goes down as another Avicii Heart in terms of botched singles in the later part of Madonnas career.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
SUMMARY
I suppose one of the things I learned is just how much of a go to Celebration (double disc version) is for her catalogue. Immaculate collection pales next to it really. This is Madonna Spotify playlist also features none of her singles from Immaculate Collection tracks, they're Celebration versions or the original album versions, which obviously weighs things out of Immaculates favour. Few of Immaculates tracks are combined too. Just (Crazy For You, Live To Tell, Justify My Love, Borderline and that odd Lucky Star 12" mix). I suppose when we get the next greatest hits the Celebration version on these list will be changed for the new GH and the plays combined, thus pushing that compilation as the definitive. 
Some other cute anomalies are the Confession Tour version of Erotica -5,054,012 is nearly as popular as the Celebration version has about 2/3rds off the original album mix. In fact the Confessions Live album has really healthy streams, easily her biggest streaming Live album which is crazy as it's a pre streaming release. Vogue  MDNA live 6,722,766-  is her most streamed live track and has done the best numbers on the Sticky & Sweet Tour live album too. 
The drop off after the lead and second singles is real in her last four albums. Bitch Im Madonna being the outlier here. 

I agree completely! It’s stupid radio is even part of the equation anymore. It should be based off of streaming and to a lesser extent digital sales. Who even listens to broadcast radio that much anymore? Doctor’s offices and Uber drivers. And its corruption is well established- payola is real and thriving these days, and we all know how radio programmers will outright shut out some artists regardless of demand (i.e. women over a certain age). It just seems to be one of those things that’s only part of the system to justify its own existence and try to control what it can. Let it still exist as a promotional tool but keep it out of the charts I say.
/end rant 🤪

Madonna in 1983, talking about the death of Michael Stewart at what many claim to be Police brutality:
 
 

Ugh this was so hard lol. I stared at Physical Attraction and Lucky Star for a solid minute. Went w/the former bc it’s the extended mix of the latter that I love a little more than the av. Everybody too. And Burning Up. All of it really! Even my least fav I Know It isn’t completely insufferable.
I really do hope they have *something* planned for this anniversary. Even if it gets delayed slightly. I feel like the mythology so to speak around this album has only grown over the years. Generally speaking it seems to be the most beloved or highly regarded of her first three. The retrospective reviews and analyses have only got more positive over the years. Digitally it appears to be the highest seller of her pre-digital studio albums according to itunes.
Guy had already changed his insta profile pic to this cover before the news broke so hopefully that means something!

I know it probably wouldn’t happen but I’d love it if they’d officially upload all those old promo performances to her youtube account. Or even just do a playlist with them altogether.
I’ve gone down that rabbit hole before. It’s fun. There are so many! That and all the promo performances of LAV. There are like 5 from Japan. I’d love for her people to make things like that available on her official acct.
 
 
 

I know it probably wouldn’t happen but I’d love it if they’d officially upload all those old promo performances to her youtube account. Or even just do a playlist with them altogether.
I’ve gone down that rabbit hole before. It’s fun. There are so many! That and all the promo performances of LAV. There are like 5 from Japan. I’d love for her people to make things like that available on her official acct.
 
 
 

This vocal take is so much better than the one that made the album lol. Shame they didn’t use it.

From Sigma Sound tapes; "I Know It" - Reggie Lucas Early Mix:
 

I was hoping we’d get the Power of Goodbye and Drowned World/Sky Fits Heaven eps. There are some good remixes there.
Real shot in the dark but I wish her team would drop the I’ll Remember single. The Orbit mixes are nice and chill.
Next year will be the 30th of BS and the 40th of LAV right around the same time. That’ll be interesting. We already have all the BS singles; maybe she’ll finally officially release that Tupac remix.