Madnness

And about all these Swifts, Switfies, Gagas, Monsters, Trumps, Trumpists, just ...   
 
We're Madonna's bitches, if you know what I mean 

I didn't mean to associate her "playing the victim" behavior with white feminism. Although she uses feminism to promote herself and her white (and mostly blonde) friends, she tends to portray herself as a victim in various situations. Whether it's conflicts with Kanye West, Katy Perry, Kim K., ex-boyfriends, or "haters", she often portrays herself as being wronged and reinforces this in her songs.
Suing a college student for revealing her frequent plane trips, which contributes to her being the biggest celebrity CO2e polluter, is an example of her behavior. In this case, she's not taking on big industry players, but instead targeting a student who is far more concerned about the environment than she is.
She chose to express her support for Kamala only after Trump fell in the latest polls. However, she didn't say anything about the worsening situation for women in the Middle East. Instead, she chose to defend Lady Gaga's body from "haters" on Instagram or whatever.
For an artist of her caliber, she selectively chooses the battles where she can shine, often at the expense of the other party. What's worse is her fans' willingness to perpetuate this behavior, rather than critically analyzing the individual they admire.  

I started to dislike Taylor Swift when a fan of hers died at a concert in Rio this year due to dehydration. She didn't even stop the show, call for help, or offer to cover the fan's travel costs to their home state after their death. Other FANS had to pass the hat to raise money.
Taylor then decided to offer a free "meet and greet" with the family of the deceased girl as a PR stunt to appease the situation. It just didn't feel genuine.
But hey... it wasn't her fault that a fan died during a concert, right? 
 

I honestly don't know much about all this, I'm learning all these facts now. I never liked her anyway, just some reasons more 

Girl Gone Wild. 
Paradise (Not For Me) or Devil Wouldn't Recognize You?

Girl Gone Wild. 
Paradise (Not For Me) or Devil Wouldn't Recognize You?

"Bitch I'm Madonna" sounds believable as a means to shut someone down. "Bitch I'm Taylor Swift" has no pull.

Well I'm not a huge fan of some of the recent feminism evolutions either, exacerbating some of the woke and the polically correct perspectives, but I think that it can become problematic to mix these kind of events with a supposed victimism. You know what I mean? In my opinion, the problem there is the lack of complexity in some of their analysis wich lead them to a kind of ideological position about many themes, that's why I'm giving this answear here: I think we can be different and not mix things as some often like to do 
About Swifties reactions to that thing and the huge publicity she had at that moment, I definitely agree and I can tell you that I think I got to know about her existence right because of that  

Not sure but I've heard that since the movie came out. Of course some rumors are gonna just be flat out untrue.

My dear who’s is bullying an artist? the majority of us are having a laugh in an semiprivate environment, not in twitter or the artists socials, 
I bet the majority of us don’t care at all about this, and laugh about how passionate and cuckoo people can get about a pop star that is 20 younger than them and defend her as if she was paying their bills and loans
Our favorite couldn’t get a number one even if we bring all those 190000000000000 flies to stream her songs day and night. 
Oh well maybe if Taylor herself invites Madonna over for a feat, maybe that day we will see a number 1 again. Another thing that I don’t give a rat ass about if it happened 

I can agree with that. I'm serious, not joking, I'm not sure at all she could have the age/radio kind of problem. Not cause M paved the way for others of course, but because Taylor is excatly what they want her to be. The pretty girl next door, kind and nice all the time, talking about emotions, especially love and private stuff, no politics, no polemics, no troubles, singing easy listening melodies, where experimentation is a plausible word only if we start from Disney's soundtracks, wearing soporific princess dresses with empty sparkling smiles stamped on her face, being also indipendent and empowered of course, but only as a proper girl next door can be, not more not less. And I think she'll go on like this all the way through: not more not less than what expected and acceptable. I think she could find a way to adapt herself to what acceptable over 35. So maybe she'll manage to go on ... untill a new generation will wake up and simply get the bore of her thing. 

Oh this is getting interesting now ... this flies and poo thing is finally elevating the exhausted conversation

Can we lock this. I don't wanna see that girls name anymore. Even if we are comparing her to feces.

She has 0 cultural impact. Standing with a guitar singing about your ex has the cultutal impact of a pigeon on a roof. Shania Twain had way more charisma and personnality than her. She's the blandest succesful singer ever. 

As for Taylors shows and ticket sales, most of today kids are totally dumb when it comes to their idols and music, they just worship singers that are totally bland and safe and they just follow the mass. They just don't like original, one of a kind and  adventurous artists. They are the safest generation ever. The total opposite of kids from the 80's who were searching for rebels artist who were pushing boundaries. Today the safest the most successful and Taylor Swift is the perfect product, her fans don't even have to think or have an opinion. The girl is standing with her guitar singing about her ex boyfriend for the 560th time and these boring and predictable kids are in admiration... That is pathetic. Look at the charts... The biggest sellers are now or totally def rappers rapping about their bitches big asses or their money, or bland singers who take no risk and are safer than your grandmother... Totally uninspired and uninspiring generation. It's all about looking perfect on Instagram but they have 0 artist creativity. 

Exactly. I think Taylor is more respected and more safe than Madonna. She’s family friendly. So she has that on her side. But in the longer term I think it will make her “cultural impact” seem less significant. She hasn’t really brought anything new to the table that other artists or women haven’t done before. She’s not really changing the landscape at all.

because taylor swift farted on camera and that was deemed video of the year

* I don't know what to say

...me? Out of ALL the members on this board...I am the hostile angry one? Gorrrrrl...the lack of self awareness of so many people here is astounding. I am literally Roger the Alien from American Dad meets ALF. That is literally me. 

The answer to this this thread is NO.  
 

Yep.

Shnoze Lupone has the acting range of looking like she smelled a fart to looking like she smelled a really bad fart. She’s hardly one to talk about great acting. And audacity of Aubrey laughing when she herself is a terrible actress is quite ironic.