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Sorry, but context is everything. And we have the audios to back up the narrative. Just because someone said "something isnt working" doesn't mean they "hate" it. If Madonna hated GTI, then she wouldn't have kept it on the tracklist for so long until late August, and dropping it in favor for Did You Do It. Let alone, release it commercially a few yrs later.
If your'e going by that logic, then Madonna hates Erotica, Rain, Thief of Hearts, and Deeper and Deeper lol.

All I can say is I know my friends, and they all aren't looking to burn people at the stakes.  While they might be greatly mislead or misinformed, but not every Trump supporter is on that level of hatred as you are trying to paint. 

I know a lot of people who support Trump.  It's frustrating because some of them are very good friends who will give the shirt off their back if I needed it.  In fact, some have.  It's just I can't talk politics with them because my head will explode.  It's true; many are looking simply at policies. When Trump originally ran for office, he triggered many who were tired of the "usual politics".  They wanted change. I have noticed in most cases, it's about "financial" issues such as taxes, economy, inflation, etc.  Trump tapped into that mindset.  Any morals the Republicans used to hold, are out the window when it comes Trump.  Unfortunately he is dividing us more and more. He tapped into everything many people took issue with and challenged it.  "Fake News".  He pretty much coined that phrase.  People tapped into that, so now anytime someone says or does something that doesn't go his way, it's "fake news". Then there is "Taxes".  We all hate them.  They figure him being a businessman, he will help get rid of the excessive taxing.  The problem is; he's thinks by reliving the rich, it will trickle down to the lower classes.  Unfortunately, that doesn't work. Many use the "pandemic" excuse.  They see that is something he couldn't be blamed for.  Though it was under his administration everything shut down.  Even though, he didn't follow protocol himself.  The fact is; no one was better off under him. Some might act like they were, but they are just flat out lying or have a short memory. At a point, no one was working. People were in disarray about the pandemic and they say since he didn't follow protocol, then they didn't have to.  Still, he couldn't communicate effectively how to handle the pandemic.  He even brought in the best doctors and scientists to help explain and keep things under control.  What did he do?  He contradicted them. Then when shit hit the fan, he let the public believe it was the doctors, scientists and CDC that was the problem.  Another interesting thing is, nearly everyone who work with or under him, are all in jail or no longer support him.  Ask yourself why is that?  I can understand some people going rogue, but too many people who were for him or in his administration, all have turned on him or gone to jail.   He even threw his own Vice President under the bus.
For me, I take his WORDS at face value. If he says he's going to be a "Dictator" on day one. I believe he will do so. It came from his own mouth.  I didn't need any media outlet interpret anything for me.  That's the thing about Trump.  What he says, he believes and means.  That should be a scary concept to anyone.

If a party's platform is to strip rights from women and minorities, there should be no room for tolerance of them. It is so asinine to say "you shouldn't cancel someone for a difference of political opinion." When that opinion can help lead to abortion rights being stripped, gay marriage being stripped, healthcare rights for minorities being stripped..... it is not a tolerable opinion whatsoever. It is evil.

but not intelligent. 
Imagine being gay and voting against your own people. 

So what? He’s allowed to support whoever he wants politically. The lefty nazi nut jobs are just as bad. 

can we stop attempting to cancel people who simply don't align with our own political beliefs? I see this shit everywhere on the liberal end. The left is supposed to be the more tolerant side but somehow lately it feels like liberals are becoming the Neo fascists. "Either you believe 100% what we do or you're a nazi, -phobe, bigot" and so on. It's gotten completely out of hands. People have valid reasons for being dissatisfied how the country has been run, same in Europe, It's their right to vote how they see fit. It's part of democracy.
 
This group think nonsense is not helping. 
 

Yeah totally agree.
 
 I'm guilty of it as well for sure but making assumptions on someone because of their gender, race, sexuality, etc....  is a big turn off to me.  

Honestly, I hate this cancel culture era. We cancel every little thing of no importance nowadays.

Are you for real?
Madonna collaborated with him 6 years ago! You don't know what his political views were back then or if he had any. Also Crave is not a political song.
As disappointing as it is, at the end of the day he is entitled to his political views and that shouldn't stop from collaborating with leftists...

People’s political opinions have nothing to do with their talent.
Its ok that we have different opinions and beliefs. We can still collaborate.
Its through association that we learn to empathize with others, become more compassionate and sometimes get them to understand us better.

Could be, M and her team probably secured the sample for future use. It sounds GREAT and it fits Erotica and the later tracks perfectly

Maybe that's why she's used it so many times? Imagine if they settled on a flat-rate single fee for her to be able to use it forever later on.
Cheap smart queen!

Honestly the use of that sample is GENIUS.
So genius that she couldn't just use it once on a lost remix/B-Side. It had to had its own moment on a lead single.
And on a tour opener:
And as a documentary opener:
And on her greatest hits tour of course:
Special mention to it being absolutely BOTCHED on the first "Celebration" pressings!
So good that 2009's Emily just couldn't take it and press the wrong cut button!

Agree, Love Hurts is a great track I go to very often.
I always guess why when Erotica got to her final stage they simply chose to take You thrill me off. She clearly likes that song (she included it in the Confessions and in the Celebration tour) and it's actually sexy and dramatic and cool at the same time. They could have produced a new instrumental, maybe writing some spoken parts and include it in the album. I'm sure it would have worked better than Did you do it, don't you? 

Love hurts is sooo good

Do we know anything about the Junior sessions? And why isn't he credited on Erotica?

Correct, it was produced by Junior Vasquez that's why Shep might have not known the lyrics to it...

I got lost with the amount of demos for the song Erotica aka Erotic aka Love hurts aka You Thrill Me..
Really can someone make a definitive chronological list of the demos before it simply became Erotica?
I really doubt any other Madonna song has had so many demos/versions before it got finalized!

I've definitely been known to quote from this, among a lot of other M things.  She is a quotable bitch, no question.  Truth or Dare alone has dozens.

I would gladly take another 34 years of discussions if we get new music #soon. 
I don’t know if I will be alive though, Madonna undoubtedly 🤣

So another I'm Breathless situation and many years of fans discussing if M15 is an album or OST.. Like we haven't been doing this for the last 34 years 

This is what I call "DELUXE/EXPANDED ALBUM":

Dolby Atmos [48/24] 5.1 Surround [48/24] 2024 Stereo Mix [96/24] Original 1984 Stereo Mix [96/24] Dolby Atmos Instrumental [48/24] 5.1 Surround Instrumental [48/24] 2024 Stereo Instrumental [96/24]
 
The 4CD+DVD deluxe edition comes in 7″ style casebound book packaging and features both The Age of Consent, Hundreds and Thousands and 41 bonus tracks including original 12-inch mixes, B-sides and 22 previously unreleased rarities.
Watch and learn, Emily!

...your tone is incredibly condescending as if I'm making it up just because YOU don't remember. It's been 20 years and since it didnt happen and since it was only on Japanese sites of course it's gonna be an obscure piece of trivia that's not gonna be remembered in the mainstream consciousness of fans. I don't think YOU would like it if i acted as if you pulled something out of your butt just because i didnt remember or didnt hear about it.

Obviously you don't remember lol so watch your tone and accept that just because YOU don't remember something doesnt mean it didnt happen or that there wasnt at the very least a rumor.