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This is really bad guys. And I dreamed of this for years and wanted to like it so bad. I don't find her captivating in an animated way, and she seems aloof. Like the vocals sound so detached. I feel bad for saying it. 

This is really bad guys. And I dreamed of this for years and wanted to like it so bad. I don't find her captivating in an animated way, and she seems aloof. Like the vocals sound so detached. I feel bad for saying it. 

This is really bad guys. And I dreamed of this for years and wanted to like it so bad. I don't find her captivating in an animated way, and she seems aloof. Like the vocals sound so detached. I feel bad for saying it. 

For me it's the over produced vocals. 

how exciting!! Probably the best news ive ever read on here

Interesting a plastic surgeon doesn't even seem to understand the concept of lighting and lens effects, as well as retouching and make-up. He doesn't take it into account and makes alot of wrong conclusions based on that. But I've noted that so many times before everytime they would ask a plastic surgeon to weigh in on something. Coming up with all sorts of wrong conclusions. And I'm really not a stan that denies plastic surgery in their fav celebratities. 
Comparing flash photography to lighting from above. She already had the nasal folds in her early 20s and its not always a sign of ageing. But that's a typical plastic surgeons conclusion when they try to sell to someone they could use some work. 
Having said that yes Madonna has had alot done in recent years, but before that really not that much aside from some fillers....... until 2005 when it took off first with the slightly enhanced cheeks. Thats the first time imo she changed something about her actual natural bonestrucrure so to say. Although still just injectables. 
Then the obvious 2008 actual cheek implants which gave that rounded look which he totally skipped over. I dont think its a facelift that gave those 'lines', its the effect of the cheekimplants. 
Speaking of cheekimplants... That's usually something they accused celebrities of quite often of in the past when these plastic surgeons would share their views, but cheek implants were actually rarily done. Anyways which is why i was pretty surprised Madonna had that actually done. For once it was actually true now. 
I only think she had an actual facelift just before the madam x era. And another thing he totally skips over was the shaving of the side of her jaws. Which she had done imo. And for some reason hardly anyone has picked up on. 
His commentary was essentially useless. For these type of commentaries you need pictures with the same non-flash photography lighting, and somewhat same angles or poses. And certainly not promotional shots. Unless they were raw images or something. But seems like he can't even make that distinction. 
 
 
 

Interesting a plastic surgeon doesn't even seem to understand the concept of lighting and lens effects, as well as retouching and make-up. He doesn't take it into account and makes alot of wrong conclusions based on that. But I've noted that so many times before everytime they would ask a plastic surgeon to weigh in on something. Coming up with all sorts of wrong conclusions. And I'm really not a stan that denies plastic surgery in their fav celebratities. 
Comparing flash photography to lighting from above. She already had the nasal folds in her early 20s and its not always a sign of ageing. But that's a typical plastic surgeons conclusion when they try to sell to someone they could use some work. 
Having said that yes Madonna has had alot done in recent years, but before that really not that much aside from some fillers....... until 2005 when it took off first with the slightly enhanced cheeks. Thats the first time imo she changed something about her actual natural bonestrucrure so to say. Although still just injectables. 
Then the obvious 2008 actual cheek implants which gave that rounded look which he totally skipped over. I dont think its a facelift that gave those 'lines', its the effect of the cheekimplants. 
Speaking of cheekimplants... That's usually something they accused celebrities of quite often of in the past when these plastic surgeons would share their views, but cheek implants were actually rarily done. Anyways which is why i was pretty surprised Madonna had that actually done. For once it was actually true now. 
I only think she had an actual facelift just before the madam x era. And another thing he totally skips over was the shaving of the side of her jaws. Which she had done imo. And for some reason hardly anyone has picked up on. 
His commentary was essentially useless. For these type of commentaries you need pictures with the same non-flash photography lighting, and somewhat same angles or poses. And certainly not promotional shots. Unless they were raw images or something. But seems like he can't even make that distinction. 
 
 
 

Us discussing whereas her next album will be more like "Ray of light" or like "Confessions" VS reality :
She will make a rap track featuring Malik and Doja cat, the video will be her playing the dominatrix dressed in leather and will be shot by Steven Klein, she will give free tickets of her next promo tour when you buy the track so she is #1 worldwide during 24 hours, then she will be at 8 the next day, then 53 then out of the charts within one week, she will keep on saying thank you on instagram for making her new artistic record a #1 sucess worldwide, fans will be divided between those who hate the track and blame Guy O and those who force themselves to like it and never miss a chance to comment how brilliant the song is and those who say otherwise are racist or agist.  She will get a nose job cause that's the only feature left she hasn't modified and fans will say that 'as you get over 60 your nose tends to get thinner and it's a natural process' you know you know... Here you have the next era. Thank you goodnight.

She's either an alcoholic or delusional these days or the alcolism amplifies the delusion I don't know.  Very upsetting to think about. I just cant applaud the dysfunction. It's embarassing. She turned into something beyond a spoof. Madonnalogues were mild. I get all the imprompto fun. Its not that. Something is off and spiralling worse and worse. If you want to ban me I understand. I don't enjoy being critical of her. I'm even going through some sort of mourning process of the old her. If you want to mock me, go ahead. I sorta get it. I used to defend her passionately too. Im worried about her

She's either an alcoholic or delusional these days or the alcolism amplifies the delusion I don't know.  Very upsetting to think about. I just cant applaud the dysfunction. It's embarassing. She turned into something beyond a spoof. Madonnalogues were mild. I get all the imprompto fun. Its not that. Something is off and spiralling worse and worse. If you want to ban me I understand. I don't enjoy being critical of her. I'm even going through some sort of mourning process of the old her. If you want to mock me, go ahead. I sorta get it. I used to defend her passionately too. Im worried about her

She's either an alcoholic or delusional these days or the alcolism amplifies the delusion I don't know.  Very upsetting to think about. I just cant applaud the dysfunction. It's embarassing. She turned into something beyond a spoof. Madonnalogues were mild. I get all the imprompto fun. Its not that. Something is off and spiralling worse and worse. If you want to ban me I understand. I don't enjoy being critical of her. I'm even going through some sort of mourning process of the old her. If you want to mock me, go ahead. I sorta get it. I used to defend her passionately too. Im worried about her

She's either an alcoholic or delusional these days or the alcolism amplifies the delusion I don't know.  Very upsetting to think about. I just cant applaud the dysfunction. It's embarassing. She turned into something beyond a spoof. Madonnalogues were mild. I get all the imprompto fun. Its not that. Something is off and spiralling worse and worse. If you want to ban me I understand. I don't enjoy being critical of her. I'm even going through some sort of mourning process of the old her. If you want to mock me, go ahead. I sorta get it. I used to defend her passionately too. Im worried about her

She's either an alcoholic or delusional these days or the alcolism amplifies the delusion I don't know.  Very upsetting to think about. I just cant applaud the dysfunction. It's embarassing. She turned into something beyond a spoof. Madonnalogues were mild. I get all the imprompto fun. Its not that. Something is off and spiralling worse and worse. If you want to ban me I understand. I don't enjoy being critical of her. I'm even going through some sort of mourning process of the old her. If you want to mock me, go ahead. I sorta get it. I used to defend her passionately too. Im worried about her

I think shes looking pretty good here. But the whole fuck you thing is getting old. Especially m her bf flipping off on the red carpet. 

I think shes looking pretty good here. But the whole fuck you thing is getting old. Especially m her bf flipping off on the red carpet. 

I think shes looking pretty good here. But the whole fuck you thing is getting old. Especially m her bf flipping off on the red carpet. 

From different angle

At the end of the day Madonna WANTS the controversy. That's why she did this. So if there wouldn't be people bitching about it (like me lol) it wouldn't have succeeded. Continue to express yourselves, all of you. But be careful in trying to silence people and pulling the ageist and misogony card. That's done far too quickly: atleast amongst fans of Madonna. 
Since her gender is often brought up in this debate and how she can do whatever she wants because she is a woman and all that....
People SHOULD be able to question women. They are like men, capable of being reasonable sane adults. They are equal, So i treat them that way.
We need to be careful in tiptoing around women like they can't take it. No that doesn't mean to freely attack them. But dialogue and questioning should be allowed. If we can't hold them accountable, how does it help them? This goes for any gender. Bubblewrapping women from cririque like they are victims of this world is not helpful or empowering. Again doesn't mean to go on a rampage of roasting them. But questioning and discussing their behavior should be fine. 
In my opinion Madonna has alot of yes people around her.
I made comments earlier about Madonnas cheeks and stuff, well both sets of her cheeks. And i wouldn't post it under Madonnas photoa or on her social media. But this is a fan forum. I'm going to discuss, as others should be able to do so. 

At the end of the day Madonna WANTS the controversy. That's why she did this. So if there wouldn't be people bitching about it (like me lol) it wouldn't have succeeded. Continue to express yourselves, all of you. But be careful in trying to silence people and pulling the ageist and misogony card. That's done far too quickly: atleast amongst fans of Madonna. 
Since her gender is often brought up in this debate and how she can do whatever she wants because she is a woman and all that....
People SHOULD be able to question women. They are like men, capable of being reasonable sane adults. They are equal, So i treat them that way.
We need to be careful in tiptoing around women like they can't take it. No that doesn't mean to freely attack them. But dialogue and questioning should be allowed. If we can't hold them accountable, how does it help them? This goes for any gender. Bubblewrapping women from cririque like they are victims of this world is not helpful or empowering. Again doesn't mean to go on a rampage of roasting them. But questioning and discussing their behavior should be fine. 
In my opinion Madonna has alot of yes people around her.
I made comments earlier about Madonnas cheeks and stuff, well both sets of her cheeks. And i wouldn't post it under Madonnas photoa or on her social media. But this is a fan forum. I'm going to discuss, as others should be able to do so. 

At the end of the day Madonna WANTS the controversy. That's why she did this. So if there wouldn't be people bitching about it (like me lol) it wouldn't have succeeded. Continue to express yourselves, all of you. But be careful in trying to silence people and pulling the ageist and misogony card. That's done far too quickly: atleast amongst fans of Madonna. 
Since her gender is often brought up in this debate and how she can do whatever she wants because she is a woman and all that....
People SHOULD be able to question women. They are like men, capable of being reasonable sane adults. They are equal, So i treat them that way.
We need to be careful in tiptoing around women like they can't take it. No that doesn't mean to freely attack them. But dialogue and questioning should be allowed. If we can't hold them accountable, how does it help them? This goes for any gender. Bubblewrapping women from cririque like they are victims of this world is not helpful or empowering. Again doesn't mean to go on a rampage of roasting them. But questioning and discussing their behavior should be fine. 
In my opinion Madonna has alot of yes people around her.
I made comments earlier about Madonnas cheeks and stuff, well both sets of her cheeks. And i wouldn't post it under Madonnas photoa or on her social media. But this is a fan forum. I'm going to discuss, as others should be able to do so. 

At the end of the day Madonna WANTS the controversy. That's why she did this. So if there wouldn't be people bitching about it (like me lol) it wouldn't have succeeded. Continue to express yourselves, all of you. But be careful in trying to silence people and pulling the ageist and misogony card. That's done far too quickly: atleast amongst fans of Madonna. 
Since her gender is often brought up in this debate and how she can do whatever she wants because she is a woman and all that....
People SHOULD be able to question women. They are like men, capable of being reasonable sane adults. They are equal, So i treat them that way.
We need to be careful in tiptoing around women like they can't take it. No that doesn't mean to freely attack them. But dialogue and questioning should be allowed. If we can't hold them accountable, how does it help them? This goes for any gender. Bubblewrapping women from cririque like they are victims of this world is not helpful or empowering. Again doesn't mean to go on a rampage of roasting them. But questioning and discussing their behavior should be fine. 
In my opinion Madonna has alot of yes people around her.
I made comments earlier about Madonnas cheeks and stuff, well both sets of her cheeks. And i wouldn't post it under Madonnas photoa or on her social media. But this is a fan forum. I'm going to discuss, as others should be able to do so. 

At the end of the day Madonna WANTS the controversy. That's why she did this. So if there wouldn't be people bitching about it (like me lol) it wouldn't have succeeded. Continue to express yourselves, all of you. But be careful in trying to silence people and pulling the ageist and misogony card. That's done far too quickly: atleast amongst fans of Madonna. 
Since her gender is often brought up in this debate and how she can do whatever she wants because she is a woman and all that....
People SHOULD be able to question women. They are like men, capable of being reasonable sane adults. They are equal, So i treat them that way.
We need to be careful in tiptoing around women like they can't take it. No that doesn't mean to freely attack them. But dialogue and questioning should be allowed. If we can't hold them accountable, how does it help them? This goes for any gender. Bubblewrapping women from cririque like they are victims of this world is not helpful or empowering. Again doesn't mean to go on a rampage of roasting them. But questioning and discussing their behavior should be fine. 
In my opinion Madonna has alot of yes people around her.
I made comments earlier about Madonnas cheeks and stuff, well both sets of her cheeks. And i wouldn't post it under Madonnas photoa or on her social media. But this is a fan forum. I'm going to discuss, as others should be able to do so. 

At the end of the day Madonna WANTS the controversy. That's why she did this. So if there wouldn't be people bitching about it (like me lol) it wouldn't have succeeded. Continue to express yourselves, all of you. But be careful in trying to silence people and pulling the ageist and misogony card. That's done far too quickly: atleast amongst fans of Madonna. 
Since her gender is often brought up in this debate and how she can do whatever she wants because she is a woman and all that....
People SHOULD be able to question women. They are like men, capable of being reasonable sane adults. They are equal, So i treat them that way.
We need to be careful in tiptoing around women like they can't take it. No that doesn't mean to freely attack them. But dialogue and questioning should be allowed. If we can't hold them accountable, how does it help them? This goes for any gender. Bubblewrapping women from cririque like they are victims of this world is not helpful or empowering. Again doesn't mean to go on a rampage of roasting them. But questioning and discussing their behavior should be fine. 
In my opinion Madonna has alot of yes people around her.
I made comments earlier about Madonnas cheeks and stuff, well both sets of her cheeks. And i wouldn't post it under Madonnas photoa or on her social media. But this is a fan forum. I'm going to discuss, as others should be able to do so. 

At the end of the day Madonna WANTS the controversy. That's why she did this. So if there wouldn't be people bitching about it (like me lol) it wouldn't have succeeded. Continue to express yourselves, all of you. But be careful in trying to silence people and pulling the ageist and misogony card. That's done far too quickly: atleast amongst fans of Madonna. 
Since her gender is often brought up in this debate and how she can do whatever she wants because she is a woman and all that....
People SHOULD be able to question women. They are like men, capable of being reasonable sane adults. They are equal, So i treat them that way.
We need to be careful in tiptoing around women like they can't take it. No that doesn't mean to freely attack them. But dialogue and questioning should be allowed. If we can't hold them accountable, how does it help them? This goes for any gender. Bubblewrapping women from cririque like they are victims of this world is not helpful or empowering. Again doesn't mean to go on a rampage of roasting them. But questioning and discussing their behavior should be fine. 
In my opinion Madonna has alot of yes people around her.
I made comments earlier about Madonnas cheeks and stuff, well both sets of her cheeks. And i wouldn't post it under Madonnas photoa or on her social media. But this is a fan forum. I'm going to discuss, as others should be able to do so. 

I find it odd that you chose NOT to question anything more than anything else….. Apart from my point of view of course..You are happy to question that, seemingly only because it doesn’t marry with your, (dare I say), slightly myopic view. 
Is it not curious that you take no balanced view of any of the concerns and legitimate questions raised or hinted at by numerous forum members and chose to just … blindly defend her albeit legitimate choices? 
 
No one is saying she shouldn’t do exactly what she wants, but for me to just eradicate any thought process as to why she does it or what it does or doesn’t say about her particular mind set or brand of feminism or whatever, is utterly absurd. She can do what she wants, I can think how I want. Why is that so threatening to you? 
 
I find it weird that a fan of a woman who taught us to question, chooses …not to question her, but only those that question her. 
 
It’s clear we won’t agree, but my thoughts still stand and it would seem I’m not alone.