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Roland Barthes

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So, Madonna did not perform Burning Up at CBGB's. When she first played CBGB's it was with the Breakfast Club (original line up minus Bray). She wrote Burning Up later while in Emmy. 

There are tons of videos where Dan Gilroy explains how he taught her how to play guitar and how she wrote her first songs with basic chords, hell, you even have these recordings online because the Shamrock reels leaked. She played rhythm guitar when she left Breakfast Club beause she wanted to lead and they did not want her to. She first had her drum kit but it was too heavy to carry around so she got rid of it and focused on playing guitar instead. she moved into the Music Building where she lived illegally but she went back to the Gilroys in Queens for a few onths after she left because she was homeless in new york. She formed her first band "Madonna and the Sky" and yes, there are recordings besides the receiver records 4 tracks ep that was released, you have the "demos" of her on a tape recorder, playing guitar and singing the songs and sometimes just playing guitar, yes also available online. DO THE WORK. 

The band became Emmy when Bray moved from Michigan to New York. They played Max's Kansas City which was the other punk joint on the Bowery, Gary Burke, the band's bassist (and with Madonna since Breakfast Club) secured the gig by hanging out with the guys from the band Suicide. The gig was such a success that they got invited back and Max's wanted to sign them on their label (they had their own) but Madonna had other ideas, she had invited Camille to see the second gig. Meanwhile she had no place of her own, crashing at friends or at the Star Motel when she had enough money. One day her electric convector set the room she was in on fire. She had to leave and at this point she was so destitute she had her first breakdown and was close to moving back to Michigan. 

Steve Bray said she could have made a career out of being a rhythm guitar player.

She did not like the direction Camille wanted her to take, Jon Gordon, the producer of the Gotham demos (and later Suzanne Vega) said that she was always playing with her guitar and keyboards and testing sounds, that's how he found out she was not happy with the direction she was forced to take and he did not like what he did with the demos either. Madonna was already doing dance music with Bray and hanging out at clubs in Manhattan, she wanted to make the music she was dancing to at these clubs, punk rock was 2 years ago for her and yet New Wave and dance music in New York at this time were derivative of punk rock in terms of being DIY. Camille managed to lure her into renewing her contract by securing a gig to be the open act for New York Dolls singer David Johanssen at his Xmas show for newly launched MTV. So she signed that contract but Camille did not know Madonna had also secured a new agent from CAA so after the gig she told camille the contract was over but her new agent left her  (it's that second contract Camille sued her for when Madonna signed with Sire Records). She was on her own again with no place to live because Camille was paying for the apt. she lived in. She was back to the Music Building. That's when she shopped the demos she did with Bray around the clubs she was already hanging out at. She then moved in with her friend from UoM, Janice Galloway (whom later married Madonna's first a&r Michael Rosenblatt) and worked at the Lucky Strike bar occasionally with Erika & Martin under the supervision of Haoui Montaug. Montaug was also doorman at Danceteria and had his own night their "No Entiendes Cabaret" (he was in Martin's room with Madonna when he died and in 1991, terminally ill with complications in connection with being hiv positive he organized his suicide, Madonna was on the set of A League Of Their Own but was there via phone, his portrait also appears during Live To Tell).

And on and on and on. It's ALL out there. If you are curious and interested in the truth and not letting ignorance spread like a substitute for knowledge.

It's all out there. You have biographies, including the new one, youtube files, websites etc....and most of all the incredible work of Webo1958 on Instagram. If you are interested in Madonna's roots and past and you are not already following this account, do it, it's a goldmine and you even have Madonna's past collaborators correcting or adding things in the comments like Jon Gordon, Jellybean, Gary Burke etc...

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Hi, guys! 

I haven't participated in a long time in the forum. Sorry about that. I just wanted to share some of my photos from the two shows in Antwerp, that I was lucky enough to attend and enjoy from the first row. Feel free to follow me if you want. I'm always happy to meet and talk to fellow fans! :)

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cy_TcOCoXtZ/

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I was overwhelmingly inspired by her (not for the first time :laughing:), so I hand-carved this, inspired by/dedicated to her:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cz6nglQIbV2/

Both of the shows were amazing and the crowd was ecstatic. She was more incredible than I could have imagined her to be (considering all the recent challenges). I love her so much and I hope she is happy, healthy and inspired. I'm looking forward to her next musical and performance projects. 

 

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Sorry all if im talking about the after.... but im very curious....

madonna arrive at 40th in music industry, she make this huge tour where she put inside all.... all her history, music, revolutions, scandals, losses, triumph.... ecc

what after?

when you put out something so big, a celebration of all you do in 40 years.... after you can only start form zero.... do something totally different.... you can just put out the next album like nothing happen.... for me her next work should be a new era totally starting form zero again... and the end of this tour will be for real the end of a era.... look like this tour its a way to put all behind to start something totally different.... a new path a new artistic era a new journey for M....

My toughts....

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11 minutes ago, dave2290 said:

Sorry all if im talking about the after.... but im very curious....

madonna arrive at 40th in music industry, she make this huge tour where she put inside all.... all her history, music, revolutions, scandals, losses, triumph.... ecc

what after?

when you put out something so big, a celebration of all you do in 40 years.... after you can only start form zero.... do something totally different.... you can just put out the next album like nothing happen.... for me her next work should be a new era totally starting form zero again... and the end of this tour will be for real the end of a era.... look like this tour its a way to put all behind to start something totally different.... a new path a new artistic era a new journey for M....

My toughts....

I think it doesn't need to be completely different. I think this tour is as its title - Celebration. Of her, of everything she's achieved. And could be a good way to introduce her to new, young fans. I met some in Antwerp, who were just now starting to discover and appreciate her. 

And I think she is probably almost ready with the new album. Considering her responses on some of her Instagram Live Q&As.

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13 minutes ago, dave2290 said:

so @Fabiolous maybe nyc is the best Place....if not paris.... a city she love.... but this is a celebration tour and nyc is where everything start..... so its very possible.....

We also know she didn't film Paris...

It HAS to be New York, the whole stage is inspired by Manhattan. I really don't see what other city she would film.

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I'm glad she included the Slung Up on Tokisha bit before breaking into the original.

After a little time and distance, I rewatched that video. And now have the song on replay...

I can't explain how I went from side eyeing that wig and thinking "I hope she's alright..." when I saw the video to it now being one of my favorite things she's ever done? Is there a support group for this? Do I need to make a Popjustice account? Is this what it feels like to stan Hard Candy?

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3 minutes ago, Pootz333 said:

I'm glad she included the Slung Up on Tokisha bit before breaking into the original.

After a little time and distance, I rewatched that video. And now have the song on replay...

I can't explain how I went from side eyeing that wig and thinking "I hope she's alright..." when I saw the video to it now being one of my favorite things she's ever done? Is there a support group for this? Do I need to make a Popjustice account? Is this what it feels like to stan Hard Candy?

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I cringed when I saw Hung up on Tokisha on the setlist, now it's my favourite moment

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