Madame Madonna 4,109 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 That's what's been said for many many years... but I have never been able to hear a paper sheet. And, in the last year or so, a different vocal cut has been release like a demo, so I'm guessing it is not true with the album version of the song. Maybe, MAYBE, it is a situation like Into the groove, in which the "don't touch this demo this song is perfect" situation is in the movie, but when it comes to comercial release, they re-recorded the vocals? Thank for info!! it would be really great if someone find out this. haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xander 430 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Like a Prayer ------------------------------------------ Writers: Madonna, Patrick Leonard Producers: Madonna, Patrick Leonard April 22, 1989 3 weeks ------------------------------------------ Madonna had been absent from the Hot 100 for a year and a half when she released the first single from her album Like a Prayer. The title track debuted at 38 the week of March 18, 1989, and shot to number one five weeks later--making it the fastest rising number one since Michael Jackson's "Bad" in 1987. Madonna wrote and produced "Like a Prayer" with Patrick Leonard, who had collaborated on two of her previous chart-toppers, "Live to Tell" and "Who's That Girl." Leonard remembers "Like a Prayer" being the first tune written for the album. "Originally it had bongos and Latin percussion, and we decided to eliminate that quickly," he says. "It was written and the lead vocal was recorded within about three hours. Most of the songs on that record were written just like that, in a few hours. . . . Once she came up with 'Like a Prayer,' we decided, 'We'll do this with a church organ and we'll add a choir to it, we'll add Andrae Crouch's choir later on.' It was that simple. It wasn't something that took weeks; this is something that took hours." Madonna and Patrick met with Andrae Crouch to tell him what they had in mind. "He gets the choir together and they sort of wing it," says Leonard. "He knows what he's going to do and he knows what he's going to tell them . . . but I know he's making it up as he goes along. He's listened to it in his ear and he's thought about what he's going to do . . . and it's very inspired." Madonna talked about her religious upbringing with Becky Johnston. "I have a great sense of guilt and sin from Catholicism that has definitely permeated my everyday life, whether I want it to or not. And when I do something wrong, or that I think is wrong . . . if I don't let someone know I've wronged, I'm always afraid I'm going to be punished. I don't rest easy with myself. And that's something you're raised to believe as a Catholic." Madonna told Johnston how the video of the song developed. "Originally, when I recorded the song, I would play it over and over again, trying to get a visual sense of what sort of story or fantasy it evoked in me. I kept imagining this story about a girl who was madly in love with a black man, set in the South, with this forbidden interracial love affair. And the guy she's in love with sings in a choir. So she's obsessed with him ad goes to church all the time. And then it turned into a bigger story, which was about racism and bigotry. . . . Then Mary Lambert got involved as the director, and she came up with a story that incorporated more of the religious symbolism I originally wrote into the song." Before "Like a Prayer" was released, Madonna signed a one-year $5-million contract with Pepsi-Cola which would include a series of commercials and sponsorship of Madonna's tour. The first commercial was scheduled to use the song "Like a Prayer." "I like the challenge of merging art and commerce, " Madonna said in Rolling Stone. "The Pepsi spot is a great and different way to expose the record . . . the music will be playing in the background, and the can of Pepsi is positioned very subliminally." The commercial had a different storyline than the video. For Pepsi, Madonna relived a birthday party from childhood. The two-minute commercial aired March 2, 1989, for the first and last time in the United States. Pepsi cited "consumer confusion" between the commercial and the video for "Like a Prayer." Fundamentalist groups threatened a boycott against the company because of what they considered to be Madonna's "blasphemous" video, but Pepsi said they arrived at their decision to pull the spot independently. Company spokesperson Todd McKenzie said, "If you've got an ad that has people confused, it's only logical to pull it." Pepsi did not ask for their money back, and Madonna did not offer. ------------------------------------------ The previous entries I've posted were in the Second Edition published in 1988; the series is up to its Fifth Edition, published in 2003, and features six more entries from Madonna, which are: Like a Prayer, Vogue, Justify My Love, This Used to Be My Playground, Take a Bow, and Music. It is for some reason incredibly hard to locate copies of the later editions, cheaply or digitally, but I have found a few entries, Like a Prayer, Vogue, and This Used to Be My Playground, which I will post while I continue to seek the other entries. Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll_ar 10 Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 Nice one! DIdn't know there were further editions! Oh, How I love Like a Prayer.... It also took Billboard to settle an argument between my friend and I, cause he claimed it wasn't nicky the solo voice in the choir section... and Billboard specialist confirm that for me too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xander 430 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Vogue ------------------------------------------ Writers: Madonna, Shep Pettibone Producers: Madonna, Shep Pettibone May 19, 1990 3 weeks ------------------------------------------ "Vogue" was originally planned as the "B" side of "Keep It Together," the fifth single from Madonna's Like a Prayer album. After the title track went to number one, "Express Yourself" and "Cherish" both peaked at number two. The fourth single was "Oh Father," which broke Madonna's string of 17 consecutive top 10 singles by stalling at number 20. "It was the best song we'd ever don so far," co-writer and co-producer Patrick Leonard lamented in the Chicago Tribune. "It was a beautiful piece of music that resembles art in a big way." Madonna bounced back with "Keep It Together," which went as high as number eight. But the "B" side was not "Vogue." She Pettibone, who wrote and produced "Vogue" with Madonna, remembers the reaction of people to the song the first time they heard it. "The record company went bananas, her manager went bananas. Everybody said, 'This is a major hit smash record--we're not going to lose it as a "B" side on "Keep It Together."' So it never became the 'B' side." Pettibone, born in New York City, went to work at C.J.'s Record Store in Asbury Park, New Jersey, when he was 15. After finishing high school, he was hired to work at Sam Goody's in Manhattan. "That was boring, and I figured my next step was to become a club DJ, since I was always collecting music." Pettibone came up with the idea of remixing records to make them sound different, and sson his remixes were being played by Frankie Crocker on WBLS in New York. She first met Madonna briefly when Mark Kamins was producing "Everybody" for her. He was also friendly with John "Jellybean" Benitez, who produced "Holiday" and "Crazy For You." Shep was asked to remix "True Blue" for a 12-inch single and "Into the Groove" for an album of dance remixes. "I made it a point to let her know what I could do," says Pettibone. "After that point, I became the person she wanted to remix her records. "She really liked what I did on 'Express Yourself' and 'Like a Prayer,' so we jelled very well together. I was asked to come up with some music for a song. She liked it a lot, and she came to New York on the red-eye, very tired, and wrote most of the lyrics on the plane coming in." Pettibone was surprised at the subject matter of the song. "Vogueing was in the underground clubs. It had been around for a while and it was also semi-passé. People were saying, 'What's the next thing? That's over.' She came in and said, 'I hope you don't mind, but I"m going to call the song "Vogue."'" "Vogue" debuted on the Hot 100 at number 39 the week of April 14, 1990, and was number one five weeks later, matching the speed of "Like a Prayer." It was included on the album I'm Breathless, which bore the legend "Music from and inspired by the film Dick Tracy." "Vogue" was the exception. "It wasn't written for that movie or for that album," Pettibone acknowledges. The remainder of the songs on I'm Breathless were sung in character. Three songs were actually from the Warren Beatty film: "Sooner or Later," "More," and "What Can You Lose," all written by Stephen Sondheim. "Sooner or Later" won the Oscar for Best Original Song, and Madonna won good critical notices for her role. She also won her share of media attention for a brief romance with the film's star. ------------------------------------------ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xander 430 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 This Used to Be My Playground ------------------------------------------ Writers: Madonna, Shep Pettibone Producers: Madonna, Shep Pettibone August 8, 1992 1 week ------------------------------------------ In 1943, Chicago Cubs owner P.K. Wrigley founded the All American Girls Professional Baseball League, in a contingency move to keep the sport of baseball alive in case the major leagues had to close down because of the Second World War. The women proved to be so popular that their stereotype-shattering league was active until 1954, and their exploits were retold years later in a documentary for PBS. In 1992, director Penny Marshall and screenwriters Lowell Ganz and Babaloo Mandell brought the story of the female baseball players to the big screen under the title A League of Their Own. Music supervisor Jay Landers was working at Columbia Records when label president Don Ienner asked him to read the film's script. "I thought it was terrific and Michael Dilbeck, head of music for Columbia Pictures, and I decided we could put a good soundtrack together," Landers says. "Penny Marshall was very receptive to our musical ideas. And the one thing that made this record particularly easy to do was that everyone in the music community was such a big fan of Penny that we didn't need to go hat in hand to anyone, because they were all eager to help her." Marshall's concept for the soundtrack was to have contemporary artists recording music of the period. "She wanted it to be very accurate to the actual time frame," explains Landers, so that a song from 1944 would not be heard in a scene taking place in 1943. "The picture is bookended by modern day footage," adds the music supervisor. "So the film starts with a reunion and Carole King wrote the opening song. And Madonna was in the movie, so it was only natural to want her to sing a song. There was some early hesitation about whether she should stop out of character so you suddenly hear Madonna's voice over the end titles, but ultimately there was enough separation between the character and Madonna that Penny, Mike and myself felt it would be okay." Shep Pettibone recalls that he and Madonna had just completed work on their first ballad together, "Rain," when Marshall called her star and asked if she would record a song for the film. "Madonna said she really didn't have anything," says Pettibone. But the director wanted a ballad and they had just finished one that turned out so well. "I came up with a track that night and Madonna came over the next day and said, 'I have an idea for it.'" Two days later, they had completed "This Used to Be My Playground." They sent the track off to Marshall for her reaction. "We immediately loved it," says Landers. "We all thought it would be a very successful record and we knew right away it would be perfect." Recording the track was a new experience for Pettibone, as it was the first time he had worked with all live musicians. "We took the track and put a live drummer to it and live strings and live piano. We didn't have any strings written for the song [originally]. Jeremy Lubbock was chosen to do the arrangement on the strings and I think that had a lot to do with the final outcome of the song. He did a great job," says the producer. Marshall completed her rough cut of the film but wasn't ready to show it to any of the actors yet. Landers was driving down Doheny Boulevard in Los Angeles with a copy of the film when a car pulled alongside his and he realized it was Madonna, driving herself somewhere. "I rolled down the window and held up the tape and said, 'You are so terrific in this movie! You're going to be so happy!' She chased me all the way down Doheny and at the next red light said, 'Who are you? Can I see the movie?' And I said, 'No, I'm sorry,' and drove away." ------------------------------------------ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breathless 5,286 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 This is great! Thanks so much for posting! I'm also very curious about the Live To Tell take with the sound of the piece of paper.... I had no idea, and I'm curious if we're able to hear that, maybe in a stripped down version??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xander 430 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 "We recut the song, but we used the (same) vocal. She only sang it once (for the demo) and that was the vocal we used because it was so innocent and so shy. She had a legal pad in her hand and . . . you can hear the paper. It's as raw as raw can be and that's part of what gave it all its charm." I'm wondering that I understand this correctly. So We actually can hear the sound of the paper from Live to tell single? if we can then which part? Anyone know this? I tried listening to the song with headphones on, listening once and noting timestamps where I perceived there to be a crinkly, paper sound, I went back and listened again to see if I heard those sounds in the same spots or if it was a trick of the mind. There was only one instance where I heard the sound again, at 2:05/6. And my copy of True Blue is the first pressing of the CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madame Madonna 4,109 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I tried listening to the song with headphones on, listening once and noting timestamps where I perceived there to be a crinkly, paper sound, I went back and listened again to see if I heard those sounds in the same spots or if it was a trick of the mind. There was only one instance where I heard the sound again, at 2:05/6. And my copy of True Blue is the first pressing of the CD. Thank you for info!!! I tried to find it but I failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madame Madonna 4,109 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 This Used to Be My Playground Marshall completed her rough cut of the film but wasn't ready to show it to any of the actors yet. Landers was driving down Doheny Boulevard in Los Angeles with a copy of the film when a car pulled alongside his and he realized it was Madonna, driving herself somewhere. "I rolled down the window and held up the tape and said, 'You are so terrific in this movie! You're going to be so happy!' She chased me all the way down Doheny and at the next red light said, 'Who are you? Can I see the movie?' And I said, 'No, I'm sorry,' and drove away." ------------------------------------------ OMG This is so cute! LOL Who are you? Can I see the movie? I can hear her voice! LOL Who are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xander 430 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Thank you for info!!! I tried to find it but I failed. Oh, I don't know if I actually caught it. But I thought it was worth looking for, or rather, listening for. Maybe it's evident on the Fire With Fire soundtrack, if anyone could find it lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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