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On 6/11/2021 at 12:29 PM, thegoldencalf said:

Speaking of I’ll Remember. A friend texted me the other day just to tell me that he saw the video for the first time and was blown away how beautiful she looked in it!

Interestingly, I remember when that song was on the radio around where I live (Detroit), after the song played the DJ said "I just saw the video to this song yesterday. I don't know why a woman that can be so hot makes herself look so damn ugly!" 

Irrelevant I know, just your friend's comment made me remember that. God, that pissed me off when I heard that, lol. that DJ was an asshole. 

 

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There's absolutely nothing wrong with GHV2, neither the tracklist order (and I say that being myself a You'll See bitch); try listen to album as M did create and you'll see (no pun intended) all songs tell a story in sequence, much like if they were intended to a tour of hers. It's much like the yang opposite to how yin Drowned World Tour sounded at that time - even the allegedly made-up stories to the booklet about the songs actually corroborate that. It was in essence how Drowned World Tour would have sounded hadn't her doing tour to focus mostly on Music and ROL albums - as if it were marketed as a GH tour instead of a supporting album tour (a 90's GH tour, naturally). Shame that the 99% of her fans still haven't seen such vision of hers...

EDIT: and I honestly believe the disappointment feeling from M fans regarding GHV2 as a whole is directly linked to the disappoint they have had to M's music career during the nineties - to both how Madonna got backlashed to never have scored a #1 on Billboard Hot 200 that decade and to how Madonna herself had by then a mindset focused on her full departure to everything she was linked to the prior decade, which was much more successful to any metric...

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Girl were you talking about number Billboard 200 #1 albums because...

Take A Bow was number 1 in the 90's.

This Used To Be My Non Song was number 1 in the 90's 

Vogue was number 1 in the 90's

Justify My Love was number 1 in the 90's

and Music was number 1 at the turn of the decade and included on GHV2

So it had two US number one records on GHV2

 

I'll Remember & Frozen number 2

Secret & Erotica number 3

Ray Of Light number 5

Along with five other top 10's

She did just fine considering the god awful SEX backlash

 

If she was really pushing the HITS narrative the track listing would have looked like

  1. This Used To Be My Non Song
  2. Erotica
  3. Deeper & Deeper
  4. Rain
  5. I'll Remember
  6. Secret
  7. Take A Bow
  8. You'll See
  9. You Must Love Me
  10. Dont Cry For Me Argentina
  11. Frozen
  12. Ray Of Light
  13. The Power Of Goodbye
  14. Music
  15. Dont Tell Me
  16. Beautiful Stranger

 

but you can see how it starts to look very Something To Remember + and like a ballad salad. 

Rain / Playground / You'll See excluded because of STR

Nothing Really Matters exclusion was to avoid there being five singles from it's parent album and to stop it being Ray Of Light heavy though Drowned World not being an international single was a curious choice instead. 

Don't Cry For Me chosen over American Pie & Fever to avoid paying royalties on three tracks that were covers. 

All the Music singles and Bedtime singles were included.

So what else was there to put on? Flop Girl her biggest commercial failure to the point?

 

It's probably as good as it could have been in truth

So yeah I do think GHV2 was a good compilation with a commercially smart tracklist  but it absolutely suffered in fans eyes at a measly 15 tracks. 17 Would probably have appeased some fans to match Immaculate collection but 15 tracks plus no new songs. Mama really? 

The truth is America was largely only here for most of her downtempos in the 90's if were to believe the charts and by that time as Fever / Bedtime Story / Human Nature / Nothing Really Matters were all flops though Madonna was ready to never release another ballad for the next decade or so. 

 

 

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I think the tracklist is good. I would maybe just add Fever (Edit One) after Deeper And Deeper and for sure Time Stood Still as the last track.

 

For her ballads like Rain, TUTBMP, I'll Remember, etc there is STR.

American Pie was already included in Music outside the US. 

 

A new song would have been really nice. She had many in the vaults, but if there has to be no new song, at least put Time Stood Still. This song deserves better than being in a forgotten OST.

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  • 2 months later...

I would do the entire 1990 era plus the rest until 2001

0. Keep It Together (Edit Of Shep Pettibone Remix) (Bonus Tracks)

1.Vogue (Alternate Single Version) 

2. Hanky Panky (Q-Sound Mix)

3.Justify My Love (Orbit Edit)

4.Rescue Me (S.O.S Mix Edit) 

5.This Used To Be My Playground 

6.Erotica (Edit)

7.Deeper And Deeper (7" Edit - With Fade) 

8.Fever (Radio Remix or Edit One)

9.Secret (New Edit) 

10.Bedtime Story (Edit)

11.Human Nature (Video Version Or Human Club Mixshow)

12.Ray Of Light (Radio Edit with alternate Orbit Intro) 

13.Frozen (Edit)

14. Don't Cry For Me Argentina (Miami Mix Edit) 

15. You'll See (Edit)

16.Music (Edit)

17.Don't Tell Me (Edit)

18.What It Feels Like For A Girl (Radio Edit or Video Version)

19.GHV2 Megamix (Bonus Track) 

And maybe a new bonus remix disc...

 

 

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On 6/10/2021 at 3:18 AM, MaDöner Kebab said:

The Second Coming (Standard)

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I would change the packaging and track list. The first single could have been Impressive Instant as the remixes were being sent out around that time in anticipation of the album. The GHV2 Megamix would be the b-side to that single.

All songs would be slightly edited either using their official radio edits or new ones, so more songs would fit on the album.

  1. Erotica
  2. Human Nature
  3. Don't Tell Me
  4. Secret
  5. I'll Remember - Orbit Remix
  6. Ray of Light
  7. Fever - Edit One
  8. Nothing Really Matters
  9. Beautiful Stranger
  10. American Pie
  11. Music
  12. Deeper and Deeper
  13. You'll See
  14. Frozen
  15. Take a Bow
  16. The Power of Good-Bye
  17. Bedtime Story
  18. Impressive Instant

The Second Coming (Deluxe)

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This version would include a second disc with Madonna's greatest remixes from 1991-2001. They would also appear as edited versions.

  1. Justify My Love - Orbit Edit
  2. Rescue Me - Lifeboat Vocal
  3. Erotica - Madonna's In My Jeep Mix
  4. Deeper and Deeper - David's Radio Edit
  5. Secret - Junior's Single Mix
  6. Bedtime Story - Orbital Edit
  7. Human Nature - Human Club Edit
  8. Don't Cry for Me Argentina - Miami Mix Edit
  9. Frozen - Stereo MC Edit
  10. Ray of Light - Sasha Ultra Violet Mix Radio Edit
  11. Drowned World/Substitute for Love - BT & Sasha's Bucklodge Ashram Edit
  12. Nothing Really Matters - Club 69 Radio Mix
  13. Beautiful Stranger - Calderone Radio Mix
  14. American Pie - Richard "Humpty" Vission Radio Mix
  15. Music - Groove Armada 7" Mix
  16. Don't Tell Me - Thunderpuss Radio Mix
  17. What It Feels Like for a Girl - Above & Beyond Radio Edit
  18. Thunderpuss GHV2 Megamix - Original Version

I would love having this as a download! Even as a mp3 or lossy file preferably! 

Hopefully but if you don't want that's ok

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First of all, songs in chronological order.

Second, only hits (not Madonna faves, like Human Nature or WIFLFAG)

Third, a new song and video to promote the album. 

Fourth, change the name: Second Coming was a perfect and iconic title. 

Tracklist

1.This used to be my playground

2.Erotica

3.Deeper and Deeper

4.Rain (or replace it for Don't Cry for me Argentina Miami Mix Edit after You'll See)

6.I'll Remember

7.Secret

8.Take a bow

9.You'll See

10.Frozen

11.Ray of Light

12.The Power of Goodbye

13.Beautiful Stranger

14.American Pie

15.Music

16.Don't tell me

17.New Song (as she was lazy with this release, Liquid Love, Like a Flower or Revenge would be nice additions)

 

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