MDNA22 1,277 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 Agree with those who sat she should have just done one song Medellin - she did not look like she enjoyed it compared to how say you could see the joy in her performing on many other live performances - if she smiled once it was not when the cameras were on her. At the end of Medellin she did not look too happy with the performance as had just messed up the timing for the end moves - before Maluma held her hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanuk 30 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 26 minutes ago, Blue Jean said: That’s true. And when someone has a serious drug or alcohol problem as Madonna does it’s not as simple as just telling them or trying to help them. And we are talking about someone who has had a lot of authority in their lives for 40 years now. Nobody can help her easily. Not even her kids. I’ve always thought Madonna would turn into our generation Bette Davis. I honestly think this is that phase. Pootz333 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadameX 682 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 32 minutes ago, Blue Jean said: That’s true. And when someone has a serious drug or alcohol problem as Madonna does it’s not as simple as just telling them or trying to help them. And we are talking about someone who has had a lot of authority in their lives for 40 years now. Nobody can help her easily. Not even her kids. That is true. But we shouldn't just let go of our hands and watch our loved ones destroy themselves. If you truly care about the person, no matter how hard and impossible it seems, we must constantly try and tell the truth so that the person can change constantly. Agent Cooper and Shoful 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadameX 682 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, alanuk said: I’ve always thought Madonna would turn into our generation Bette Davis. I honestly think this is that phase. Oh, really? That's interesting because I've always thought she'd be the Marlene Dietrich of our generation. I believed she would grow old to be a smart mega pop star who is mentally and physically healthy and has perfect self-care by the age of 90. But.......sigh... 50ft Queenie, Pootz333, Marcello77 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Jean 17,172 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 23 minutes ago, MadameX said: That is true. But we shouldn't just let go of our hands and watch our loved ones destroy themselves. If you truly care about the person, no matter how hard and impossible it seems, we must constantly try and tell the truth so that the person can change constantly. I agree. But we do not know what her friends and family are saying and doing. I really do not think they are just letting it go. But remember what happened with MJ. He shut out a lot people and surrounded himself with people including doctors who would just say yes to everything he wanted. When Debi commented on Madonna’s bathtub video remember that she unfollowed her for a period. Extreme fame and wealth would make these situations even more difficult to intervene in. It also seems to give the person the freedom of a spoilt child to do whatever they please and not care about the consequences or answer to anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drum Dub 1,942 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 20 hours ago, Drum Dub said: Probably she's smoking pot under the stage Wow the premonition Love you momma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winn 2,358 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 Madonna does what she wants. She's not gonna listen to anyone, except maybe her kids, but when you look at the tragic state of Lola that's not much comfort. El hijo de la Pantoja, o_g_c_x, 50ft Queenie and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pootz333 2,925 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 35 minutes ago, alanuk said: I’ve always thought Madonna would turn into our generation Bette Davis. I honestly think this is that phase. 25 minutes ago, MadameX said: Oh, really? That's interesting because I've always thought she'd be the Marlene Dietrich of our generation. I believed she would grow old to be a smart mega pop star who is mentally and physically healthy and has perfect self-care by the age of 90. But.......sigh... Her next phase is being a great actress? Didn't see that one coming but I'm definitely ready for it. Homogenic79, 50ft Queenie and Ziploc 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymad 10,784 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 Lord. When she puts the whip thing between his legs. y'all know she was saying "I just flew in can I stay on your couch". Shoful 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feehgarcia 1,664 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 20 minutes ago, Blue Jean said: But remember what happened with MJ. He shut out a lot people and surrounded himself with people including doctors who would just say yes to everything he wanted. This. Lisa Marie Presley and Janet talked about this a few times. Janet even touched this on her documentary earlier this year! Saying they totally lost access to him on the final years of his life. Levon and Shoful 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoful 8,799 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 29 minutes ago, feehgarcia said: This. Lisa Marie Presley and Janet talked about this a few times. Janet even touched this on her documentary earlier this year! Saying they totally lost access to him on the final years of his life. At least Madonna’s kids are old enough to be aware pf the situation and hopefully they help her Andymad, feehgarcia and Levon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekans 991 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 Genuine question: why do so many fans think she has a drug/alcohol addiction problem? Ziploc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjKingBee 333 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Andymad said: Lord. When she puts the whip thing between his legs. y'all know she was saying "I just flew in can I stay on your couch". That was hot ! They really do have chemistry I think - also I think maluma is mesmerized by her career and she prolly just think of him as meat lol also this performance is no where near as bad as ppl are saying El hijo de la Pantoja 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adirondak 2,036 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Blue Jean said: I agree. But we do not know what her friends and family are saying and doing. I really do not think they are just letting it go. But remember what happened with MJ. He shut out a lot people and surrounded himself with people including doctors who would just say yes to everything he wanted. When Debi commented on Madonna’s bathtub video remember that she unfollowed her for a period. Extreme fame and wealth would make these situations even more difficult to intervene in. It also seems to give the person the freedom of a spoilt child to do whatever they please and not care about the consequences or answer to anyone. Madonna did not unfollow Debi Mazar after that comment. GregVsMatt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosmen1984mk 848 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 18 minutes ago, Ekans said: Genuine question: why do so many fans think she has a drug/alcohol addiction problem? Because they think they have the power to see beyond the obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoful 8,799 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 20 minutes ago, adirondak said: Madonna did not unfollow Debi Mazar after that comment. What did she comment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Karma 3,087 Posted May 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 2, 2022 I will always love and support Madonna but it's okay to admit this was a dreadful performance for her standards. She has had many incarnations in the past 40 years, but I don't think anyone ever questioned her ability to command the stage and being in control of her narrative. Last night, perhaps for the very first time, she seemed totally out of it. It looked sloppy, unrehearsed and amateur. That being said, everyone has an off day, so I don't think it is fair to dismiss an icon who has given us so much excellence in the past. We don't have to be delusional sycophants encouraging mediocrity but I think a little more understanding and compassion would be nice. She needs to feel the love, especially now as she adjusts to her new limitations, like an ageing athlete. I do feel a tinge of sadness while reading the fan reactions. I think we take this personally because witnessing Madonna's decadence on stage brings the harsh realization that she is also human and reminds us of our own mortality and the fact that, actually, time goes by so quickly. Maybe I'm reading too much into it considering this is a Maluma concert, but it does make you think about the future. Anyway, I think the most concerning thing about this performance wasn't the unflattering outfit or the body enhancements but the fact that her trademark smile was nowhere to be seen. Whatever she decides to do next, I just hope she is genuinely happy with herself and her choices. So many of us are still rooting for her and I don't know if she is even aware of that. I won't speculate about her personal life, but if something is off behind the curtain like some of you are implying, I hope she has a good support system around her to make it through the wilderness. Madonna and her legacy deserve so much better than becoming another Hollywood cautionary tale. Levon, mouse, Pootz333 and 9 others 10 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Jean 17,172 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 43 minutes ago, adirondak said: Madonna did not unfollow Debi Mazar after that comment. Yes she did. There was a whole period she was not following her. MadameX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Jean 17,172 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 39 minutes ago, chaosmen1984mk said: Because they think they have the power to see beyond the obvious. It is the obvious Redha DBL, 50ft Queenie and MadameX 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Jean 17,172 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 I see all the delusional fans that want to lecture us sane folk have crept into this thread. Have fun with that, I’m out. MadameX, rlittler81 and dylanlioncourt 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likeamasochist 24 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 3 hours ago, schumakg86 said: Why is her solution to every performance’s faults now to grind on whatever is nearest? Stop grinding and focus on your vocals mama! I want Madonna to slay. And this was…not slay-age. I was hoping I could blame jet lag…alas Colombia is in a close time zone to NYC. I just don’t know. Clearly she’s done provocative performances throughout her career, but her recent fixation on thrusting and violently humping people and inanimate objects seems oddly attention seeking, even for Madonna. Starchild, DiegoLCL, El hijo de la Pantoja and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionic 131 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 I don't know if she has an alcohol or drug problem, I really hope she does not but there is just this awful feeling that something is quite wrong with her. And sorry but I can't get over the desaster that was the Music performance. Missing the cue numerous times, hideous outfit, weird and seemingly improvised moves. At times Maluma even seemed distracted or confused by what she was doing. By the end he even had to remind her to get on her mark and then it looked like they almost argued about the hats, which one to keep and which to toss. Don't sugarcoat this. Redha DBL, WIFLFAB, MadameX and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gafuller 1,678 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 Looking at the Burberry party she was just at like a week or two ago… like why not that kinda outfit. She looked good, the hair was even braided and still looked good. I’m fine with whatever happened last night. No changing it. She usually has herself back together for a new era where there’s so much promo, events, and videos to do that she has no choice but to look anything but amazing. rlittler81 and MadameX 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanky1995 3,271 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 Madonna moved maluma to his mark when they lay down he was clearly not on the trapdoor and she moved him lower Glindathegood, nito84bcn, MDRA and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadameX 682 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Pootz333 said: Her next phase is being a great actress? Didn't see that one coming but I'm definitely ready for it. Of course Not! LOL What I'm talking about is a star quality who is mentally and physically healthy even though she is old because she is good at self-care. Pootz333 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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