Rupert Everett says flop movie with Madonna put 'strain' on their friendship, 'finished' him in Hollywood

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17 minutes ago, Boombox90 said:

I think the first half is enjoyable, but it goes off the rails once the court scenes begin.

The same can be said about Folie à Deux!

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What makes me hate it even more is the fact that this flop movie is what made her cancel the Ray Of Light Tour!

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3 minutes ago, MPowered said:

What makes me hate it even more is the fact that this flop movie is what made her cancel the Ray Of Light Tour!

I don't know about that, she didn't seem in the mood to tour for some reason. Every time she was asked about that in 1998 it was all vague answers. She looked more exciting for all the movie projects she had in mind (she talked about the violin teacher movie a lot and that didn't happen). I know the tour was planned and in the pipeline but for some reason it wasn't meant to be anyway. Warner wanted to release a 1999 greatest hits compilation but she quickly convinced them to do a new album instead. She was ready to move on from "Ray Of Light" anyway, "The Next Best Thing" or not.

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2 hours ago, DoneGone said:

I don't know about that, she didn't seem in the mood to tour for some reason. Every time she was asked about that in 1998 it was all vague answers. She looked more exciting for all the movie projects she had in mind (she talked about the violin teacher movie a lot and that didn't happen). I know the tour was planned and in the pipeline but for some reason it wasn't meant to be anyway. Warner wanted to release a 1999 greatest hits compilation but she quickly convinced them to do a new album instead. She was ready to move on from "Ray Of Light" anyway, "The Next Best Thing" or not.

Yes Fiddlesticks was the original title directed by Wes Craven. I thought it was a horror film when it was first announced but it was about Roberta Tavares and her teaching violin to inner city school kids. Madonna dropped out 2 seconds before filming over creative differences and Meryl Streep stepped in and the title changed to Music of the Heart. This was around the time she went brunette and did the Power of Goodbye video, that was the look she would have had in the film or similar.

I have to say Rupert is basically saying the same as Griffin Dunne who said Who's that Girl? ruined his career. He was on an upward trajectory until that point. Griffin surprisingly has more anger over it than Rupert.

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4 hours ago, Boombox90 said:

What an awful choice of films to do after her success in Evita.

She should’ve just stuck to musicals and waited for Chicago to go ahead.

According to Goldie Hawn, she and Madonna were dumped from the project. So she would have been waiting an eternity for that one to go ahead.

I do think she should have learned her lesson and worked with an actors director. She always did better with directors who could guide her and help her shape her performance. When she was left to her own devices, it never turned out well.

I don't know why but I feel Jodie Foster could have gotten a great performance out of her, if she had had a project for her to do. 

In terms of Dangerous Game, that was a fluke as director Abel Ferrera used a lot of real footage from rehearsals when Madonna was literally being Madonna. 

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24 minutes ago, me1981 said:

Yes Fiddlesticks was the original title directed by Wes Craven. I thought it was a horror film when it was first announced but it was about Roberta Tavares and her teaching violin to inner city school kids. Madonna dropped out 2 seconds before filming over creative differences and Meryl Streep stepped in and the title changed to Music of the Heart. This was around the time she went brunette and did the Power of Goodbye video, that was the look she would have had in the film or similar.

I have to say Rupert is basically saying the same as Griffin Dunne who said Who's that Girl? ruined his career. He was on an upward trajectory until that point. Griffin surprisingly has more anger over it than Rupert.

omg Who's that girl - I've seen clips, and for me, I didn't enjoy what I saw lol. 

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32 minutes ago, me1981 said:

According to Goldie Hawn, she and Madonna were dumped from the project. So she would have been waiting an eternity for that one to go ahead.

I do think she should have learned her lesson and worked with an actors director. She always did better with directors who could guide her and help her shape her performance. When she was left to her own devices, it never turned out well.

I don't know why but I feel Jodie Foster could have gotten a great performance out of her, if she had had a project for her to do. 

In terms of Dangerous Game, that was a fluke as director Abel Ferrera used a lot of real footage from rehearsals when Madonna was literally being Madonna. 

Yeah Madonna has moved on to other project by that point.  Chicago was no longer on the table.

Interesting idea of Jodie Foster directing her.  I would actually love to see that happen.  But could you imagine the tension on set especially if Madonna would want to make changes?

I agree about the Dangerous Game film. While it was an awful film, he managed to get something good out of her.  And apparently she hated the cut he made, so who knows if it was up to her, if we'd seen her potential. 

There is a part of me that feels there is one great performance in Madonna.  I'm doubting it more and more, but I'd think if she took on something so unlike her and was really willing to let someone help her stretch and nail the role, she could be part of another great film.  Again, doubt that will ever happen.

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47 minutes ago, me1981 said:

Yes Fiddlesticks was the original title directed by Wes Craven.

Was that the original working title because before Madonna dropped out it was called "50 Violins"?

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It was all worth it for the stunning Time Stood Still, plus a gorgeous vocal on American Pie (and music video).

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50 minutes ago, me1981 said:

Yes Fiddlesticks was the original title directed by Wes Craven. I thought it was a horror film when it was first announced but it was about Roberta Tavares and her teaching violin to inner city school kids. Madonna dropped out 2 seconds before filming over creative differences and Meryl Streep stepped in and the title changed to Music of the Heart. This was around the time she went brunette and did the Power of Goodbye video, that was the look she would have had in the film or similar.

I have to say Rupert is basically saying the same as Griffin Dunne who said Who's that Girl? ruined his career. He was on an upward trajectory until that point. Griffin surprisingly has more anger over it than Rupert.

"Creative Differences" means probably madonna wanted to direct it herself lol

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8 hours ago, Winn said:

He mostly takes the blame himself. Not a bad article on Madonna really.

Agreed, but most people don't bother reading things in full and are happy to rest on a title.

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11 hours ago, roberMDNA said:

He lost a supposed career but we lost the Ray Of Light Tour, so don't complain man. jsjsjsjjsjsjs

It had to be said and it has been said 

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3 hours ago, DoneGone said:

I don't know about that, she didn't seem in the mood to tour for some reason. Every time she was asked about that in 1998 it was all vague answers. She looked more exciting for all the movie projects she had in mind (she talked about the violin teacher movie a lot and that didn't happen). I know the tour was planned and in the pipeline but for some reason it wasn't meant to be anyway. Warner wanted to release a 1999 greatest hits compilation but she quickly convinced them to do a new album instead. She was ready to move on from "Ray Of Light" anyway, "The Next Best Thing" or not.

Lola was an infant when ray of light came out and my guess is she was kind of weary about touring with that baby adding to the equation. She appreciated the success of the album but naturally she didn’t realize how big of a deal it would be if she’d toured it in the 90s looking back at the bigger picture. I’m sure she was paid a lot less for that film than she could’ve made on tour but being on set, not having to travel that much for that movie was just a lot better in her head as a new Mom. Plus, her having a career as an actress was still on the table at the time so it was worth the try.