Madonna’s silence on the US election

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1 minute ago, adirondak said:

You really want to engage with the drivel and nonsense so badly it hurts. Well daddy said no. 

Fifth time:

Do you accept South Africa was previously an apartheid state? If you do how do you know that?

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19 hours ago, Debord said:

Explain what you mean but please actually also mean it and not be doing some bullshit whataboutery to divert from what's actually happening right now.

Well what country do you live in?

 

 

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4 hours ago, BLUE JEAN said:

Well what country do you live in?

 

 

What relevance does that have to the genocide happening in Gaza?

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28 minutes ago, Debord said:

What relevance does that have to the genocide happening in Gaza?

Well what relevance does a woman being abused in a cage have to do with it? Nothing, that’s what. I was going to explain why but your response makes it clear you have no interest in an actual discussion and just want to “win” arguments on a pop star fan forum. 

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11 hours ago, Boombox90 said:

Don’t let it get personal.

It’ll be over in less than 2 weeks

Oh honey no, no matter who wins that’ll be just the beginning….

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Just now, BLUE JEAN said:

Oh honey no, that’ll be just the beginning….

I am so sick of politics.

I want it to go back to when nobody cared and everyone running was boring, but sane and legal.

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1 minute ago, BLUE JEAN said:

Well what relevance does a woman being abused in a cage have to do with it? Nothing, that’s what. I was going to explain why but your response makes it clear you have no interest in an actual discussion and just want to “win” arguments on a pop star fan forum. 

It was a metaphor, raised in response to another, very inappropriate, metaphor. Please do better than this tedious nonsense that I only profess to care about this for appearances and/or "to win", a line beloved of reactionaries everywhere who can't comprehend people caring about things that they don't care about.

If you have some sincere and meaningful argument as to why where I live might be very important here, you can make it. I've said where I live several times on this forum but I'm not volunteering it right now cos I suspect it's just going to be some tedious whataboutery from someone who doesn't really care but is looking to pass some time, rather than a sincere argument.

 

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9 minutes ago, Debord said:

It was a metaphor, raised in response to another, very inappropriate, metaphor. Please do better than this tedious nonsense that I only profess to care about this for appearances and/or "to win", a line beloved of reactionaries everywhere who can't comprehend people caring about things that they don't care about.

If you have some sincere and meaningful argument as to why where I live might be very important here, you can make it. I've said where I live several times on this forum but I'm not volunteering it right now cos I suspect it's just going to be some tedious whataboutery from someone who doesn't really care but is looking to pass some time, rather than a sincere argument.

Well your analogy basically insinuates that the Israeli people are all responsible for what is happening. And I can’t understand that logic. It’s like saying all Americans were responsible for the people killed in the Iraq war.

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Just now, BLUE JEAN said:

Well your analogy basically insinuates that the Israeli people are all responsible for what is happening. And I can’t understand that logic. It’s like saying all Americans were responsible for the people killed in the Iraq war. 

As for me arguing with you for the sake of it, why would I put myself through that? 

No, my argument specifically referenced that that majority of Israeli people actively support what's happening. I didn't say they were responsible by dint of being Israeli, I was referring to polls that show this. Did any polls show that "all Americans" supported Iraq?

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2 minutes ago, Debord said:

No, my argument specifically referenced that that majority of Israeli people actively support what's happening. I didn't say they were responsible by dint of being Israeli, I was referring to polls that show this. Did any polls show that "all Americans" supported Iraq?

Are they not largely blind sighted by propaganda?

And yes, maybe not all or most, but a majority of Americans were in favour of that war earlier on.

 

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Well this thread is overflowed with half-assed opinions and maga bullshit.

We all know where she stands, asking the question is either a waste of time or just dog whistling.

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1 minute ago, BLUE JEAN said:

Are they not largely blind sighted by propaganda?

And yes, maybe not all or most, but a majority of Americans were in favour of that war earlier on.

 

Why would a populace accepting propaganda excuse anything? And you wrote "all Americans" but if even a majority supported Iraq (which wasn't a genocide) they were wrong. So what is your deeply felt point here? It is very much looking like what I said: that you're bored and looking to have a little debate over a genocide you don't really care about.

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1 minute ago, PlayPause said:

Well this thread is overflowed with half-assed opinions and maga bullshit.

We all know where she stands, asking the question is either a waste of time or plain dog whistling.

You should keep playing pause

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1 minute ago, Debord said:

Why would a populace accepting propaganda excuse anything? And you wrote "all Americans" but if even a majority supported Iraq (which wasn't a genocide) they were wrong. So what is your deeply felt point here? It is very much looking like what I said: that you're bored and looking to have a little debate over a genocide you don't really care about.

I was not debating the point you were making, I was simply saying your analogy was not much better than the one you were dismissing. Try again.

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6 minutes ago, BLUE JEAN said:

You should keep playing pause

Another reply that brings nothing to the topic but tries to drive users away because some don't like to be called what they are : propagandist bullies aka trolls aka submissive Putin stans.

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Also what the fuck was whether the Iraq war was a genocide or not have to do with it? Do we have to find an identical situation to raise a point now?

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Just now, PlayPause said:

Another reply that brings nothing to the topic but tries to drive users away because some don't like to be called what they are : propagandist bullies.

Onto ignore you go 

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1 minute ago, BLUE JEAN said:

I was not debating the point you were making, I was simply saying your analogy was not much better than the one you were dismissing. Try again.

What relevance does the Israeli population's support have to that analogy? That's a different argument. If you have some issue with the analogy, then explain what the issue is.

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1 minute ago, BLUE JEAN said:

Also what the fuck was whether the Iraq war was a genocide or not have to do with it? Do we have to find an identical situation to raise a point now?

WHAT DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH THE QUESTION YOU ASKED WHEN OPENING THE THREAD?

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Just now, BLUE JEAN said:

Onto ignore you go 

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1 minute ago, BLUE JEAN said:

Also what the fuck was whether the Iraq war was a genocide or not have to do with it? Do we have to find an identical situation to raise a point now?

Why did you raise the Iraq war then? Do you oppose what's happening in Gaza? 

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Just now, PlayPause said:

WHAT DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH THE QUESTION YOU ASKED WHEN OPENING THE THREAD?

A lot actually. It was about Madonna’s stance (or lack thereof) on Gaza . Go back and reread if you truly want to know.

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3 minutes ago, Debord said:

Why did you raise the Iraq war then? Do you oppose what's happening in Gaza? 

Yes !!

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14 minutes ago, BLUE JEAN said:

Are they not largely blind sighted by propaganda?

And yes, maybe not all or most, but a majority of Americans were in favour of that war earlier on.

 

Not me!

I am anti-war.

That war Bush got us in was a disaster. Going after a country that didn’t attack us. 🤦🏼‍♂️

I would take Bush any day over Trump. I never thought I’d say that. Sad.