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5 minutes ago, missberic said:

By "error-free" do you also mean "without shitty edits" or is it mainly aimed at bad remasterings? Because sound quality aside, the edits do bother me a lot, not to mention the random tracklisting 

Yes, I mean "without shitty edits". 

For Dancing All Weekend:

1. Burning Up
2. Open Your Heart
3. Express Yourself
4. Vogue
5. Fever
6. Deeper and Deeper
7. Ray of Light
8. Don't Tell Me
9. Hung Up
10. Girl Gone Wild

Wrong post. Excuse me.

Thank you very much @Anapausis 

EDIT: Oh fuck... No more MQA in TIDAL. 

I need your help, friends. Can you list the single reissues from Lucky Star up to Causing a Commotion?

Thanks in advance! 

1 hour ago, Burroughs said:

Fine, Fever Edit One is better than album version. That's all.

Madonna is known for her remixes, and that's largely because many of them surpass the album versions. Moreover, several of her singles are essentially enhanced versions of the album tracks.

PS: I voted for Movie House Mix.

4 minutes ago, Prayer said:

I'd love to know how he felt with all those singles mixes, though.

Yes, it would be very interesting to hear his opinion.

16 minutes ago, Prayer said:

I wonder how Bray felt with all his songs being changed as soon as they were released: "Causing", "Express Yourself", "Keep It Together". No wonder he was probably pissed off and thought: "OK, work with all those remixers then".

But his original work hasn't been erased—it's still on the original albums. For example, I have records from other artists where the original versions have been replaced by later remixes because they're better. While it's true that Madonna prefers to use remixes over the originals, I don't think that's something to be upset about because at that time, that's how many singles worked, being replaced by new mixes or remixes.

 By the way, why do Madonna and Bray have issues?

12 minutes ago, missberic said:

It always surprises me how well some of you guys know/remember the Celebration versions 'cause I never really paid attention or cared for that compilation, everything in it is expendable to me. Everytime someone says "oh the Celebration edit of Everybody is the best" I'm like "is it now?" and have to go check lol (just to find out I don't agree).

If Celebration had been error-free, with the original edits, and DVD-9 for the videos, it would have been the best Madonna compilation ever made.

9 hours ago, LX54 said:

So many outstanding files are traded amongst fans, just like the amazing YCD full length remixes that Bertrand shared, CAC remixes including the Movie House edit might just as well be included on those archival cdr's not yet shared... Time will tell..

I highly doubt that anyone has digital copies of CAC (MovieHouse Edit) or OYH (Remix). It doesn’t make sense that they wouldn’t have been leaked by now if digital versions existed, especially since they've been perfectly ripped from vinyl. I really hope I'm totally wrong.

8 minutes ago, LX54 said:

I don't know, some fans have incredible amazing stuff so why not the original masters of these remixes... Just askin...

I imagine that a lucky and wealthy fan might have copies of the masters, but the original master recordings are owned by Warner.

5 minutes ago, LX54 said:

Original master??? Do you have it???

How could I possibly have the original master? I'm comparing it to the album masters that were available on HDtracks (192000 Hz, 24 bits). The sound volume and equalization are quite similar.

20 minutes ago, LX54 said:

Just arrived here in france.. Same as the Sharemania files I dled earlier...   

However, I really love the sound; to me, it stays completely faithful to the original master (even the volume is the same as the masters that were on HDtracks). I'd do anything to have OYH (Remix) with the same quality.

4 minutes ago, Burroughs said:

I like remixes but I never would call any of them superior to original, except of Express Yourself. This is an exceptional case.

Whether we like it or not, many remixes are superior to the original; that doesn’t mean the original versions are bad.

41 minutes ago, Nowheretohide said:

I've never been a fan of this song, but I think the mixes are far superior to the original version on the album, which is very weak.

Movie House Mix, definitely.

I've never liked the album version. I enjoy the song thanks to the remixes.

15 minutes ago, LX54 said:

Just listened to both rips, back to back and no, I'm sorry but the yellow cd is way inferior in quality to the 1989 cd!!.. 

I don’t dispute what you’re saying, but I believe the CDs that really sound 'bad' are those from before Causing a Commotion. From Causing a Commotion onward, I find them to be OK. 

1 hour ago, LX54 said:

Please someone prove me wrong but I compared the speks of the digital EP and the Yellow cd and they are strictly the same for The Movie House mix and the Dub 

Why the tears? From Causing a Commotion onward, all the yellow CDs are practically indistinguishable from Madonna's other CDs released in different countries. By 1987, it was already common to use digital masters. The ones with issues are the yellow CDs from before Causing a Commotion, because the masters used were the ones intended for vinyl and the mastering for CD was done very poorly.

For example, these CDs are from 1989 and are from Germany (the same label that released the yellow CDs in 1995):

1 minute ago, Nowheretohide said:

 

Ok.

Summarizing...

Borderline LP version

Borderline US Remix

Borderline 7'' remix

Borderline 7 edit of LP version (on Japan CD single/7")

Borderline US remix edit from It's that girl...

No, the Borderline from the Japanese CD-Singles Box is the regular 7'' Remix:

• Borderline LP version
• Borderline US Remix
• Borderline 7'' remix (Available on CD on the Japanese Box)
• Borderline US remix edit from It's that girl...

Just now, Bjonkers said:

The regular 7" Remix is the version without the high hats, right? Maybe "Album Edit" would have been a better title for it.... But I guess they didn't think 40 years ago we'd still be here banging our heads against the wall!!

The 7'' remix is neither an edit of the album version nor of the US remix. It's a remix specifically for the 7''

1 minute ago, Nowheretohide said:

As far as I remember, the remix edit in the above cited USA promo is an edit of the US remix, but I cannot verify it...

No, the regular 7'' Remix is not an edit of the US remix.

1 minute ago, Nowheretohide said:

Now I'm a little bit lost. Borderline (It's that girl remix edit) is the same 3:58 remix edit issued in the USA promo 7"  7-29354 or something different?

It's a unique remix edit (actually an edit of the 12'' US remix), only available on the It's That Girl cassette.

17 minutes ago, deathproof said:

First I knew about these straight pass versions of OYH

(searches for a download link)

A side 01 - Open Your Heart (12") 10:36

A side 02 - Open Your Heart (Straight Pass #2) 4:52

A side 03 - Open Your Heart (Straight Pass) 4:45

B side 01 - Open Your Heart (Dub) 6:26

The 7'' remix is just the Straight Pass (or Straight Pass #2; I can’t remember right now) with an early fade-out.

5 minutes ago, luckypierre78 said:

Can someone explain to me what Straight Pass means in the process of creating a song?  I've seen those a lot when it comes to demo versions but never known what it means.  It's a standardized term right?

According to ChatGPT:

in the context of a song demo, 'straight pass' generally refers to a version that has been passed through directly without significant modifications from an earlier stage in the production process. This can imply that the demo is a near-complete or final version of the song, with minimal edits or major adjustments. In some cases, 'straight pass' may also refer to a recording or mix that hasn't been altered with additional effects or adjustments that would normally be made in later or final versions. In summary, it is a version that keeps the original material as intact as possible.

Therefore, I assume that OYH (Straight Pass) is simply the full album version (including the ending without fade) with the new remix elements added, without altering anything else.

3 minutes ago, JustinTimes said:

Do you have Straight Pass and Straight Pass 2 of Open Your Heart? I thought the ones that had leaked were not confirmed. I kept them anyway.

I have the leaked ones, but they must be legit because they contain elements that are only possible if you have the remix multitracks, and as far as I know, the remix multitracks have never been leaked.

5 minutes ago, MPowered said:

Are we gonna count the ones that were available on CD but happen to be lossy? 😅😅😅

But that's just two or three remix edits, so it's a minor thing, right?