Would someone explain GOODBYE TO INNOCENCE......please......

[gst6662000 408]

Been listening to the different versions and it gave me a headache

on which version came first in sequence before they settle for fever

 

Help...... My head is spinning

[Gayso 153]

Take a  long process

[ChrisK 8,984]

Yes, it's certainly a Pandora's box with so many versions - probably the one with the most versions!

 

[Dazedmadonna 18,459]

Instrumental Demo (5:52) from ""DAT""

Straight Pass (5:55) from 'Library of Congress / Rain Tapes' Cassette

Final Edit (5:37) from 'Library of Congress / Rain Tapes' Cassette

Demo (4:57) from 14-track Demo Cassette, leaked today

Demo 08-15-1992 (4:58) from 15-track Demo Cassette

Final Version (4:52) from Just Say Roe CD

Up Down Suite (12:16) from Rain Maxi CD

[Curtains 13,898]

Since we don't have all the dates confirmed, we can only speculate, but that would be my guess from oldest version to newest:

1. Goodbye to Innocence (Straight Pass) [from The Rain Tapes] - 5:57

2. Goodbye to Innocence (Final Edit) [from The Rain Tapes] - 5:36

3. Goodbye to Innocence (Demo) [from the Demo Assembly] - 4:57

4. Goodbye to Innocence (Final Demo Version) [from Erotica - Demo Tape 15.08.1992] - 4:39

5. Goodbye to Innocence (Released Version) [from Just Say Roe] - 4:52

[Rebel Hugo 18,413]

4 minutes ago, Dazedmadonna said:

Instrumental Demo (5:52) from ""DAT""

Straight Pass (5:55) from 'Library of Congress / Rain Tapes' Cassette

Final Edit (5:37) from 'Library of Congress / Rain Tapes' Cassette

Demo (4:57) from 14-track Demo Cassette, leaked today

Demo 08-15-1992 (4:58) from 15-track Demo Cassette

Final Version (4:52) from Just Say Roe CD

Up Down Suite (12:16) from Rain Maxi CD

There is a Fever remix with 'Goodbye to Innocence' samples as well!

 

 

[Dazedmadonna 18,459]

Just now, Rebel Hugo said:

There is a Fever remix with 'Goodbye to Innocence' samples as well!

 

 

Yes! Same sessions as Up Down Suite 

[Cyber-Raga 317]

And since only Nikki can be heard on the final GTI version (released on Just Say Roe) and the Fever Edit 1 and 2 remixes, not Donna, it is safe to assume that the vocal recording of these songs/remixes were done after Erotica's sessions had wrapped. Maybe even as late as Jan/Feb 1993. Does not the Waiting remix also use an alternative vocal take which M laid down?. 

[androiduser 2,871]

Does anyone have all the versions in one link?

[Honey Little 4,484]

The expert in this topic is actually @Anapausis

[Honey Little 4,484]

38 minutes ago, Rebel Hugo said:

There is a Fever remix with 'Goodbye to Innocence' samples as well!

 

 

Is this in the Fever double red promo vinyl?

[ChrisK 8,984]

39 minutes ago, Honey Little said:

Is this in the Fever double red promo vinyl?

no - I think it was the UK double promo though.

[survivalartist 6,745]

You need to stop and think about it. Sorry I know that’s not helpful but it’s right there in the song.

[gst6662000 408]

very very grateful to those who answered... the sequence made a lot of sense..... then i take that the erotica song would follow the same evolution....

[Honey Little 4,484]

31 minutes ago, Jackie said:

no - I think it was the UK double promo though.

31 minutes ago, Jackie said:

no - I think it was the UK double promo though.

Ohhhh I would love to have that!

[ChrisK 8,984]

3 minutes ago, Honey Little said:

Ohhhh I would love to have that!

https://www.discogs.com/release/3231452-Madonna-Fever

I'm not sure if a digital source exists. I presume though - I just can't remember!

[Honey Little 4,484]

Just now, Jackie said:

https://www.discogs.com/release/3231452-Madonna-Fever

I'm not sure if a digital source exists. I presume though - I just can't remember!

Ok thx. Fever is pure gold in terms of remixes.

[ChrisK 8,984]

5 minutes ago, Honey Little said:

Ok thx. Fever is pure gold in terms of remixes.

I agree!

[bertrand 11,335]

3 hours ago, Dazedmadonna said:

Yes! Same sessions as Up Down Suite 

Up Down Suite is Shep, that remix is Murk Boys

 

1 hour ago, Jackie said:

https://www.discogs.com/release/3231452-Madonna-Fever

I'm not sure if a digital source exists. I presume though - I just can't remember!

I haven't found a digital source for Back To The Dub 1, only the 2

[gst6662000 408]

4 hours ago, androiduser said:

Does anyone have all the versions in one link?

https://wetransfer.com/downloads/85dfb531583ff223cd22da2bf59c8bda20240601052727/e4321526454e07bac09364982d2829c120240601052748/9a9820?trk=TRN_TDL_01&utm_campaign=TRN_TDL_01&utm_medium=email&utm_source=sendgrid

 

SENDING you all from my phone

[ChrisK 8,984]

3 hours ago, bertrand said:

Up Down Suite is Shep, that remix is Murk Boys

 

I haven't found a digital source for Back To The Dub 1, only the 2

So interesting right! Maybe a digital doesn't exist other than the original DAT.

[gst6662000 408]

6 hours ago, Curtains said:

Since we don't have all the dates confirmed, we can only speculate, but that would be my guess from oldest version to newest:

1. Goodbye to Innocence (Straight Pass) [from The Rain Tapes] - 5:57

2. Goodbye to Innocence (Final Edit) [from The Rain Tapes] - 5:36

3. Goodbye to Innocence (Demo) [from the Demo Assembly] - 4:57

4. Goodbye to Innocence (Final Demo Version) [from Erotica - Demo Tape 15.08.1992] - 4:39

5. Goodbye to Innocence (Released Version) [from Just Say Roe] - 4:52

from 4 to 5 is so very very different..... 

[norisk_noglory 3,740]

6 hours ago, Curtains said:

4. Goodbye to Innocence (Final Demo Version) [from Erotica - Demo Tape 15.08.1992] - 4:39

@Curtains when you say "Erotica - Demo Tape 15.08.1992" you mean "Erotica (Madonna's Private Full Album Tape) GTHRR Auction", right?

[Burroughs 921]

7 hours ago, Rebel Hugo said:

There is a Fever remix with 'Goodbye to Innocence' samples as well!

 

 

The remix is horrible. GtI samples are distorted like shit. Sounds like a spawn of Luke Slater's creations. No wonder why we haven't got it with the rest of remixes. 

[Dazedmadonna 18,459]

5 hours ago, bertrand said:

Up Down Suite is Shep, that remix is Murk Boys

Yes but the same sampled vocals from Goodbye To Innocence are in both remixes, what I meant is that they were likely made in the same time span, did not mean the same remixer! Personally I never liked MB’s remixes