Roland Barthes

Is she for real ? Hahaha

Leslie Winer

Lauren D'Elia has again filtered the vocals into a cringey thing so i have zero hope we will hear madonna's pure vocals ever again until she leaves Mike Dean's team.

First single french press release "Christine and the Queens est heureux de vous présenter son tout nouveau single, To be honest. Accompagné d’un clip réalisé par l’artiste sur les côtes anglaises, il offre un premier aperçu de son prochain album PARANOÏA, ANGELS, TRUE LOVE qui sortira le 9 juin 2023. Ce nouvel opus a été écrit, interprété et produit par Christine and the Queens et co-produit avec Mike Dean (Lana Del Rey, Beyoncé…). Au sein de cet impressionnant geste opératique, on retrouvera notamment la participation de Madonna ainsi que de 070 Shake sur plusieurs titres." It says it's co-produced by Mike Dean and i think they say it's like an opera.

I had to read that Harry's book for work, the person who does it usually did not want to do it or did not have the time, i don't know, i was paid extra but only had 24 hours. I had nothing against him, i've never cared for the british royal family, i lived in London's west end 2 years and i only passed by Buckingham by cab once. I'm not actively against like said Morrissey, but i don't understand it. I think it's also a terrible life, the pressure, the continuous scrutiny and you don't even have a job or purpose.... Anyway, after reading that drivel, i was disgusted, not by what he wrote about his family, there's nothing in there, nothing about anyone but his brother and father, so i was left wondering if people really read that thing when seeing the daily multiple articles about it because there's nothing in there. I'm even thinking they are all in the coup, because without scandals there's not british royal family, they don't exist in the news and if they are not in the news people lose interest and start wondering why they are paying for that circus. Damn, half of that book is about his stay in the middle east fighting a stupid war, killing innocent civillians and when it's not about killing muslims it's about hunting, with very gory details and never seems to get the connection between hunting animals as a sport and what paparazzi did to his mum. Anyway, yes we did a revolution but the guys who took over were as nasty as the monarchy. 250 years + later we now have a new aristocracy (industrials and their political lobbys) effing the little people. It's like inequity and abuse of power is coded in the human dna.

I hope she'll perform at their beheading.

There are a number of members here who are not fans, not older fans or new fans but whom never were fans or just casual ones and are just checking here to, first and foremost, make sure we don't trash their faves, that the conversation on Madonna keeps being negative and to rain on our parade whenever something new is coming up. Their technique is to basically downplay everything she has achieved but in a way that is not too obvious, in a passive agressive way, though after a while you realize that it's all they do here. They never have anything positive to say. NEVER. I will never understand how you can spend so much time on someone you don't like (it's already embarrassing enough to spend time on a forum on someone you like...) And you have the misogynist incels who think women are the guilty ones if they are sexually harrassed if they wear sexy clothes. I'm citing from memory but yeah that was formulated here and liked by others. then they victimize themselves when we call them out and try to gaslight us.

Don't ask IT to think, it's just another troll like chaos and androiuser, they are not on this forum for Madonna. Don't bother.

Probably Steven Klein (Purim party)

I love she's citing Leslie Winer ( i love her Witch album and another Basquiat's ex)

If i remember correctly it was him not knowing what to do with this song. I truly wish we had a thread or a section where we could store past interviews because they are goldmines. AllAboutMadonna was so great for that, shame they shut it down.

Orbit did not like that song and wanted it off the album. Madonna or him said so in an interview at the time. I did not either, it was too Celine Dion for my taste but it grew on me with time.

And the OLDER artwork ! I don't know how involved G. Michael's family is in perpetuating his legacy but whoever is in charge is doing a hell of a very bad job. It's very sad. Sure he was at odds with his record company while still alive but damn, they are killing the artist now that the man is dead. He deserves better. That said, he once said he was against releasing unreleased material because too much of a perfectionist. I hope it does not mean we will never hear in good quality that Too Funky/Happy demo we have in bad quaity :/

In this article from 2019, we learn more about Paula Ciccone and how she came to manage the business part of the Ciccone winery (while younger brother Mario manages the property). She seems very nice. By Madeleine Hill Vedel Sun contributor Sometimes you end up where you never thought you would be. This is the case for Paula Ciccone, the introverted and warmly welcoming head wine-maker at Ciccone Winery, taking over from her father Tony, founder and creator of Ciccone Winery just south of Suttons Bay. As she tells the story, it was not something she actively sought, nor ever really imagined till it just started to happen. “In 2011 I was laid off from my job down in Detroit, and came up [to the family winery in Leelanau] that summer. I had helped out in the cellar a couple of years before, but this was different. When I first got here I just did the website. Then I inventoried all the rows of vineyards for each wine, and tagged all of the posts. Once I was done with that it was ‘what should I do next?’ I didn’t come up here to be the winemaker, but I thought, what the heck. I’ll try it. My father started giving me responsibilities in the cellar, involving me more. It was one of those situations: did my father pull me in? Or did I take an interest in it myself? I started keeping a notebook of all the different procedures, and I started asking all these questions. I started reading and reading and reading.” Paula shared with me how in the beginning her father made all the decisions, and how with their shared corporate backgrounds it was natural to fall into the rhythm of daily morning status reviews, board reviews in the lab, discussions, and to include her in the planning and tasks of the winery. Following his own schedule, Tony passed the baton to his chosen successor. “He gradually stopped, maybe four years ago? He started being more in the owner role and less in the winemaking role. He began trusting me, letting me make more decisions. I still call him and ask him questions, but he throws them back at me.” Ciccone Winery is a family business. Hearkening back to the traditions of his Italian roots, Tony brought his daughter and son Mario, who manages the vineyards, into the fold and trained them to carry on his dream. In Europe, it is expected that family will inherit a winery, continue the family legacy, and carry forth the dreams of prior generations. This is less common in the States, and in Leelanau County where transitions can be from one winemaker to the next —such as the partition of Mawby, now owned equally by founder Larry Mawby and the winemaking brothers Mike and Pete Laing who’ve worked alongside Mawby for two decades; or from one owner to the next, as when Richard Fortune purchased Shady Lane in 2013 from founder Dr. Joseph O’Donnell. “I guess because it’s a family business it made me work harder to be taken seriously. It has made me work that much more to legitimize the place and be a contender on the [Leelanau wine] trail, representative of the region.” To that end, Paula has studied, researched, asked questions, and attended wine making classes at Michigan State University. At first hesitant to reach out to her Leelanau colleagues, she now views them as invaluable resources for advice. “I couldn’t find everything in my research, so I called around, I put my pride aside. I reached out.” Dave Hill at Leelanau Cellars, Charlie Edson and Blake Lougheed over at Bel Lago Vineyards, and Matt Frolo at Peninsula Cellars have all been generous in their counsel and support. And in the past few years, Paula has entered her wines in competitions and come home with a couple of gold medals. “To be getting bottles in the same class as many of the other wineries up here is very flattering.” Paula’s first intent was to be able to continue making wine in the style of her father, holding to his original vision of fruit forward wines and keeping the winery’s faithful clientele content. However, she has innovated on occasion, and may do so more in the future. “I’ve done a few experimental batches, particularly during difficult years when you don’t always get the best grapes. I was able to veer off program then and make a non-traditional blend, such as Pinot Noir, Cabernet Franc, and Dolcetto.” Paula said. “When I told my father what was in the glass he looked me in the eye, horrified, and asked, ‘what are you going to call it?'” In the end, Paula named the unusual blend after her dog Cassie, put a watercolor portrait of him on the label, and it has become one of the winery’s top selling wines of the past few years. In 2018, when there had been a particularly small harvest, she blended her hybrids, the Marechal Fauch and the De Chaunac, with the “punchy tannins” of her Dolcetto and named it Figlia—daughter—or her father. Gaining confidence in her skills, she has also “filled a hole in our program” and added a sweet wine, blending a majority of Chardonnay with a little Muscato. “It is the after dinner with a cigar thing, and the brides love it.” Paula said. “You’re only as good as your last movie.” She continued, “This year we introduced our wines in cans. Next year? I don’t know yet. There’s so much competition, but that also helps keep everyone on their toes. You have to be good to keep your share of the business.” Making wine in Leelanau County is a big jump for this metro Detroit kid who used to summer up here at Timber Shores in Northport, where her father’s wife Joan and her brother had cottages. In a few short years she’s gone from working in corporate offices to contemplating how to make the best wine possible from the family’s twenty-one year old vineyards. However, learning from her beloved father and making sure his dream continues, sharing in its joys and successes is in her blood. “You’ve got to get really good at what you do. It was put upon me, but I wasn’t disinterested. I guess I like a challenge. That’s putting it minimally. Every year I write down my lessons learned. There is always a list. I keep thinking, this year I will know everything… But of course I don’t. It [winemaking] is good in a way as it keeps you on your toes.” Laughing self-deprecatingly, Paula confides, “It’s like having kids and you try to do the same thing by each one, and they all come out different. When people say to me ‘your wine is fantastic, here’s your gold medal’, I say ‘well, it behaved this year.'” As Paula showed me around the vineyards, she pointed out the little plaques on the end posts of the rows, still in place from her early inventory project. We toured the beautiful old barn where light streams in between the cracks in the vertical boards, and the windows look out over Grand Traverse Bay. Paula Ciccone may not have thought she would end up here, but clearly, she’s where she is meant to be. To visit, taste wine, join the wine club, or book an event: Ciccone Vineyard & Winery is located at 10343 Hilltop Rd, Suttons Bay, MI 49682. Call (231) 271-5553.

Pics from Madonna Sr yearbook. She was a cheerleader too. She was also part of the glee club... If you want to know more about Madonna Sr life in Bay City, how Madonna jr's parents met and how she spent her summers there this is a good read for you

I so want Parade and a clean version of Heaven ( a 1985 unreleased track). That said, call me picky BUT, yes the estate did a great job with these Prince releases BUT a lot of vault tracks were slapped on the wrong albums. It's especially true for Purple Rain, most of the unreleased tracks were recorded after the release of the album and movie and a lot of real Purple Rain demos and unreleased tracks were left in the vault instead. Same with 1999 but it's the one that is the most faithful to the recording order of the unreleased material.....but it still misses the unreleased album Prince did between 1999 and Purple Rain (he talked about in his 1985 Rolling Stone interview). What i dislike about Sign O The Times is they could have put a fake Dream Factory album together, even a Crystal Ball one. Some tracks from that era are still missing.

The booklet of the limited "holographic" cd edition is all grey and silver.

I adore those Luke Slater remixes, especially the super luper one. It would sound great on GTA. It's one of her most warehouse rave remix. It's only the Dallas Austin remix i don't like, it sounds too much like TLC's Unpretty.

I've always thought she did not put it on the album because it was about 2pac and since he broke up with her she wasn't releasing a track glorifying him EVEN THOUGH i suspect Forbidden Love is also about 2pac but since it kind of touch on the reason why it did not work (racism) she kept it.

Massive Attack were approched to work on Bedtime stories but they declined due to the 94 World Cup they wanted to focus on "Still, this is the World Cup final and nothing but nothing is going to get in the way of a good time… Not even Madonna. La Ciccone’s people have been in contact trying to set up a meeting. But yesterday the Massive contingent were recovering from jet lag and tomorrow they return home. Today, of course, the question. Madonna may be the biggest female star in the world, but compared to the climax of America World Cup ’94 she is just someone else hoping for a touch of that old Massive remix magic."

The jacket in Desperately Seeking Susan was red in the original script

Warner wanted to go with the animated character from the titles for the Who's That Girl ? soundtrack and single

Prince letter to Madonna, 1987 Regarding Graffiti Bridge. Turns out if Madonna agreed to make the movie she would have sung a new version of Prince's then unreleased and one of his most beautiful ballad, Power Fantastic